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Giuliani creates a monster problem for the GOP:

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Markle
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ZVUGKTUBM
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2seaoat
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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Spoken by a former major GOP candidate for president who's been out of government work for nearly a decade, the much-ignored former Mayor of NY's  questioning of Obama's patriotism or love of country may signal another power shift meant to satisfy the T-Party, while mainstream republicans are racing to ignore being pummeled by a sharp-toothed press.  Having succeeded wildly in his desperate attempt to once again garner attention, Giuliani has evidently abandoned genuine politics, to join the ranks of the former Governor of Alaska, and Donald Trump, as short-sighted noise makers who have abandoned any real causes except their own promotion.  

It appears the republican party needs to re-consider which of their members are truly loyal to the party's interests, and which should be muzzled or abandoned.  Reality.


http://www.salon.com/2015/02/21/the_tea_partys_mayor_why_giulianis_rabid_nonsense_is_a_big_problem_for_the_gop/?source=newsletter

2seaoat



There is a lot of money to be made shilling. He makes it on security systems, he makes on ID theft protection products, and he makes it with speaking appearances. So like Sarah, it is essential to abandon real policy and real problems and create the alternative world view.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/wayne-barrett-rudy-giuliani-love-article-1.2122253

You might find this enlightening...I did. Talk about glass houses...

KarlRove

KarlRove

Key word -former....
But never major olayer as he never could do better than 3rd or 4th in a primary. Giuliani is spot on though. Obama doesn't love this country and that's why he is working so hard to change into a Marxist utopia. It willl take a decade or more to repair the damage done
By the community organizer.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

KarlRove wrote:Key word -former....
But never major olayer as he never could do better than 3rd or 4th in a primary.  Giuliani is spot on though. Obama doesn't love this country and that's why he is working so hard to change into a Marxist utopia. It willl take a decade or more to repair the damage done
By the community organizer.



Right. According to War Hero, we should listen to what the son of a NY gangster who deserted two wives and who has shielded genuine Islamic terrorists through his consulting business, has to say about the first Black President of the U.S.

And we should similarly listen close to the political pronouncements of a badly suffering ex-soldier with PTSD who recently proclaimed that "life sucks and you die," and that Jesus was on the side of the U.S.A. when we invaded and occupied Iraq, and in the process collaterally killed thousands of non-combatant "savages."

Guest


Guest

Is it time to start working on a progressive solution to free speech comrades?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:Is it time to start working on a progressive solution to free speech comrades?

Free speech, offering our opinions on this forum is a correct exercise of our 1st Amendment rights as American Citizens.

Why are you against such a freedom?

KarlRove

KarlRove

You surely are ....

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PkrBum wrote:Is it time to start working on a progressive solution to free speech comrades?

There's a difference between free speech and hate speech.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Yes for liberals anything negative about the COWH is hate speech even if it is true

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

KarlRove wrote:Key word -former....
But never major olayer as he never could do better than 3rd or 4th in a primary.  Giuliani is spot on though. Obama doesn't love this country and that's why he is working so hard to change into a Marxist utopia. It willl take a decade or more to repair the damage done
By the community organizer.

We're still working on the unmitigated disaster left behind by "the decider".  "Marxist utopia"...you are a hoot...must have picked that garbage line from Pkr's stash.  Have you read Marx, BTW?  How about Keynes?  Were you able to grasp any of it?

Giuliani's father was a mobster.  His police commissioner/bodyguard/chauffeur went to prison for receiving home improvements by the mob.  He insisted upon building the command center for NYC in Building 7 of the WTC.  He didn't provide first responders with functioning radios.  He gave the all-clear almost immediately post 9/11, causing more sickness and death from the toxic waste still hanging in the air and settling in peoples' homes.  What a great leader.  One might conclude that Building 7 WAS the actual command center, since it got "pulled".

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

KarlRove wrote:Yes for liberals anything negative about the COWH is hate speech even if it is true

Your problem is you believe many lies and myths about Obama. Case in point: You have never stopped looking for his 'real' birth certificate.

I guess hatred of the President drives some poor saps into absolute craziness.

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othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Rudy has offered nothing more than his unasked for opinion. It is ridiculous to make such statements about any public figure. He is just shooting off his mouth in hopes of attracting more media attention, which he has done. He must love the sound of his own name being mentioned by news talkers. He must be chortling as he admires all the time they've given to his opinion.

You'd think there was nothing of consequence going on in the world if you only listen to corporate media which is covering the Rudster's comments hourly complete with reflections from a wide spectrum of political commentators.

To me, all this attention only spreads the story and further disrespects the president with this foolish set of comments intended to illicit applause from like minded anti-Obama folks. I wish the networks would get on to something of some substance. Who cares what Rudy thinks anyway? He no more knows the heart and mind of the president than he could win the Republican nomination for mayor of NYC much less the presidency.

Oh, and what was that BS when he said, he (Obama) doesn't love you and he doesn't love me!? I think he is either off his meds or needs to be ON some.

Markle

Markle

Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani is a phenomenal politician.  He made incredible improvements in New York when he took over.  He slashed the murder and other major crime rates to a fraction of what they were before he took office.  He transformed Times Square from a crime infested area for drug dealers, hookers and porno stores into a safe, family friendly place for New Yorkers and tourists to visit.

As for the..."misleading" information about the mob.

Giuliani also directed the New York City Police Department to aggressively pursue enterprises linked to organized crime, such as the Fulton Fish Market and the Javits Center on the West Side (Gambino crime family). By breaking mob control of solid waste removal, the city was able to save businesses over $600 million.

It is a brilliant move for Rudy Giuliani to have disclosed FACTS everyone knew but were afraid to say out loud. Giuliani has great credibility among New Yorkers who are a majority Progressives.

Semi-retired President Obama has never LOVED THIS country, he LOVES what he believes it can be transformed into.



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2seaoat



The President clearly does not love stupid. America is not stupid. It was intelligent enough to elect him twice. He is a real patriot who has to talk to parents of children who have died for this country under his command. However, stupid will always be present in America, and after listening to Rudy trying to qualify what he said......it was clear with his infomercials that he is looking for stupid.....and stupid pays........and then the question is easy.....who really loves America? In my opinion his history of wives and morality make it clear that he has no problem being cutthroat and self serving and that his love of America begins with how he can profit from attacking the President......who does not share his morality or hypocrisy.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

othershoe1030 wrote:Rudy has offered nothing more than his unasked for opinion. It is ridiculous to make such statements about any public figure. He is just shooting off his mouth in hopes of attracting more media attention, which he has done. He must love the sound of his own name being mentioned by news talkers. He must be chortling as he admires all the time they've given to his opinion.

You'd think there was nothing of consequence going on in the world if you only listen to corporate media which is covering the Rudster's comments hourly complete with reflections from a wide spectrum of political commentators.

To me, all this attention only spreads the story and further disrespects the president with this foolish set of comments intended to illicit applause from like minded anti-Obama folks. I wish the networks would get on to something of some substance. Who cares what Rudy thinks anyway? He no more knows the heart and mind of the president than he could win the Republican nomination for mayor of NYC much less the presidency.

Oh, and what was that BS when he said, he (Obama) doesn't love you and he doesn't love me!? I think he is either off his meds or needs to be ON some.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/28/us/politics/28oxycontin.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Under Attack, Drug Maker Turned to Giuliani for Help

Giuliani creates a monster problem for the GOP: 28oxy-600



Guest


Guest

Lmao... he is no measure of corporate, banking, special interest, foreign interest whore... compared to hillary.

What a hypocrite.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Rudy did a good job right after 911 when he called on people to not react with violence toward muslims (or have I mis-remembered this?)

As far as It is a brilliant move for Rudy Giuliani to have disclosed FACTS everyone knew but were afraid to say out loud.
All I heard him state were his opinions and his interpretation of what he thinks he's heard the President say. That is a far cry from FACTS. Facts are in another category.  And how can someone "disclose" something that everyone already knows?

He should have quit while he was ahead but he can't resist the attention. Another pathetic aspect of this is that the media has responded just as he hoped they would by giving the story air time. 

Guest


Guest

It's the leftists that care what he said... and without a kernel of truth it wouldn't have mattered.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

PkrBum wrote:It's the leftists that care what he said... and without a kernel of truth it wouldn't have mattered.

Truly it doesn't matter since it is just an opinion but the other R hopefuls are dancing around questions about Rudy's comments as if they were Kryptonite, hedging and afraid that a misstep at this point in the election might amount to a death sentence for them. This 24/7 news cycle is a bitch for everyone! Anything said is in danger of being recorded and played back to stab the speaker dead. Only Rand Paul was up for saying the remarks were a mistake. All the others dance.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:Semi-retired President Obama has never LOVED THIS country, he LOVES what he believes it can be transformed into.

Giuliani creates a monster problem for the GOP: Yada_y10

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2seaoat



It's the leftists that care what he said... and without a kernel of truth it wouldn't have mattered.


The President is the President. If folks cannot render even a threshold of respect for the office and those who serve, then I really think it indicates perhaps other reasons than being leftist.....just more of the black guy is not like us......pretty disgusting.

knothead

knothead

The former Mayor is obviously desperate for attention . . . . he is irrelevant basically but the GOP can decide whether they support the ridiculous comments he made or repudiate them. . . . . . he is so yesterday.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani is a phenomenal politician.  He made incredible improvements in New York when he took over.  He slashed the murder and other major crime rates to a fraction of what they were before he took office.  He transformed Times Square from a crime infested area for drug dealers, hookers and porno stores into a safe, family friendly place for New Yorkers and tourists to visit.

As for the..."misleading" information about the mob.

Giuliani also directed the New York City Police Department to aggressively pursue enterprises linked to organized crime, such as the Fulton Fish Market and the Javits Center on the West Side (Gambino crime family). By breaking mob control of solid waste removal, the city was able to save businesses over $600 million.

It is a brilliant move for Rudy Giuliani to have disclosed FACTS everyone knew but were afraid to say out loud.  Giuliani has great credibility among New Yorkers who are a majority Progressives.

Semi-retired President Obama has never LOVED THIS country, he LOVES what he believes it can be transformed into.



Evidently Semi-sane "I know NOSSING" Markle has the same magic ability to look inside another man's mind and determine how he thinks about America and Americans from a distance, that Rudy G. has.

Well, I want everyone here to know I've looked carefully and thoroughly into Semi Sane Markle's mind and it's clear to me he's a pure fascist who hates middleclass America with the same intensity as his idols, the Koch Bros.

There is, in fact, only one thing Semi Sane "I know NOSSING" Markle hates more than middle class America -- is anyone whose skin is darker than pure white.

Reality.

Markle

Markle

othershoe1030 wrote:
PkrBum wrote:It's the leftists that care what he said... and without a kernel of truth it wouldn't have mattered.

Truly it doesn't matter since it is just an opinion but the other R hopefuls are dancing around questions about Rudy's comments as if they were Kryptonite, hedging and afraid that a misstep at this point in the election might amount to a death sentence for them. This 24/7 news cycle is a bitch for everyone! Anything said is in danger of being recorded and played back to stab the speaker dead. Only Rand Paul was up for saying the remarks were a mistake. All the others dance.

Yes, they have no need to make the obvious statement of FACTS. Rudy Giuliani has done the heavy lifting.

Semi-retired President Obama hopes and prays that he can TRANSFORM America into his Socialist utopia.

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