Vikingwoman/- here is the post your requested in regards to Obama telling GOP to sit in back of the bus

PACEDOG#1 wrote:http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-to-gop-‘they-can-come-for-the-ride-but-they-have-to-sit-in-back/

Yep. Shows his racist side to a T. So there you go. He did say it and it is public knowledge. And you wonder why people think he sucks as a leader and person???

Sal wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-to-gop-‘they-can-come-for-the-ride-but-they-have-to-sit-in-back/

Yep. Shows his racist side to a T. So there you go. He did say it and it is public knowledge. And you wonder why people think he sucks as a leader and person???

Nothing about a bus in his comments.

You are a liar.

Joanimaroni wrote:
Give me a break.....you know damn good and well what he was saying.

Joanimaroni wrote:They gotta sit in back.....explain the grammar.......not ......They have to sit in the back......keep spinning. It was a racially inspired slur.

Joanimaroni wrote:They gotta sit in back.....explain the grammar.......not ......They have to sit in the back......

Joanimaroni wrote:

Sal wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-to-gop-‘they-can-come-for-the-ride-but-they-have-to-sit-in-back/

Yep. Shows his racist side to a T. So there you go. He did say it and it is public knowledge. And you wonder why people think he sucks as a leader and person???

Nothing about a bus in his comments.

You are a liar.

Give me a break.....you know damn good and well what he was saying.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-to-gop-‘they-can-come-for-the-ride-but-they-have-to-sit-in-back/

Yep. Shows his racist side to a T. So there you go. He did say it and it is public knowledge. And you wonder why people think he sucks as a leader and person???

Joanimaroni wrote:

Sal wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:http://www.mediaite.com/tv/obama-to-gop-‘they-can-come-for-the-ride-but-they-have-to-sit-in-back/

Yep. Shows his racist side to a T. So there you go. He did say it and it is public knowledge. And you wonder why people think he sucks as a leader and person???

Nothing about a bus in his comments.

You are a liar.

Give me a break.....you know damn good and well what he was saying.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Here it is Sal word for word whether you choose to read it or not-

Has President Obama‘s tone become increasingly partisan? Megyn Kelly seems to think that it has, though one wonders what tone he should take while campaigning for his own party. But it was one recent comment in particular, made while the President was in Woonsocket, Rhode Island that “is raising a lot of eyebrows,” according to the America Live host. Mr. Obama had this to say about the GOP joining Democratic efforts for reform: “They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”

Vikingwoman wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Here it is Sal word for word whether you choose to read it or not-

Has President Obama‘s tone become increasingly partisan? Megyn Kelly seems to think that it has, though one wonders what tone he should take while campaigning for his own party. But it was one recent comment in particular, made while the President was in Woonsocket, Rhode Island that “is raising a lot of eyebrows,” according to the America Live host. Mr. Obama had this to say about the GOP joining Democratic efforts for reform: “They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”

So you just made up a lie and added the bus? I figured that.

Wordslinger wrote:

Vikingwoman wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Here it is Sal word for word whether you choose to read it or not-

Has President Obama‘s tone become increasingly partisan? Megyn Kelly seems to think that it has, though one wonders what tone he should take while campaigning for his own party. But it was one recent comment in particular, made while the President was in Woonsocket, Rhode Island that “is raising a lot of eyebrows,” according to the America Live host. Mr. Obama had this to say about the GOP joining Democratic efforts for reform: “They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”

So you just made up a lie and added the bus? I figured that.

PD, Joanie and Herr Markle (our resident Nazi) prefer to believe that President Obama hates all whites, which, when you think about it, means these three conservatives will grasp at any straw to hurt the first black president of the U.S.  What else is new? Obama wants to do something to help the middle class, and to bring healthcare to millions who the republicans would rather let die in the street.  He's for big infrastructure projects that would employ thousands, if not millions, which the republicans are against -- since they believe all government projects are useless.  Obama believes women should have earning equality, students shouldn't be placed in debt for the rest of their lives to attend university, and there should be marriage equality.  Obama also believes the minimum wage should be changed to a Living Wage, which republicans oppose because they like it when most of America is living in poverty and their campaign donors remain the ultra rich.  

It's good to know your enemies.  Screw Amerika Inc.

Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

George W Bush and the 14 points of fascism

(links to specific Bush policies)

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14 POINTS OF FASCISM

1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism

From the prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins, the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was usually coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on xenophobia.

2. Disdain for the importance of human rights

The regimes themselves viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda, the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.

3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause

The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism

Ruling elites always identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute. The military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations, and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite.

5. Rampant sexism

Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.

6. A controlled mass media

Under some of the regimes, the mass media were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in keeping the general public unaware of the regimes’ excesses.

7. Obsession with national security

Inevitably, a national security apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting “national security,” and questioning its activities was portrayed as unpatriotic or even treasonous.

8. Religion and ruling elite tied together

Unlike communist regimes, the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the ruling elite’s behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and opponents of the “godless.” A perception was manufactured that opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.

9. Power of corporations protected

Although the personal life of ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure military production (in developed states), but also as an additional means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of interests, especially in the repression of “have-not” citizens.

10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated  

Since organized labor was seen as the one power center that could challenge the political hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass, viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being poor was considered akin to a vice.

11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts

Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or they had no right to exist.

12. Obsession with crime and punishment

Most of these regimes maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked power, leading to rampant abuse. “Normal” and political crime were often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of criminals or “traitors” was often promoted among the population as an excuse for more police power.

13. Rampant cronyism and corruption

Those in business circles and close to the power elite often used their position to enrich themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the national security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this corruption was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the general population.

14. Fraudulent elections

Elections in the form of plebiscites or public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.


NOTE: The above 14 Points was written in 2004 by Dr. Laurence Britt, a political scientist. Dr. Britt studied the fascist regimes of: Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile).

Does any of this sound familiar? As America sinks deeper and deeper into corporate greed will this country continue to be a democracy by the people and for the people or will it be ruled by the few? Will the trinity of money, power and greed over come one of the greatest countries in the world? Only we, the people, can keep it free. SPEAK OUT AND LET YOUR THOUGHTS BE KNOWN...ONLY BY SILENCE WILL WE BE DEFEATED!



"What no one seemed to notice. . . was the ever widening gap. . .between the government and the people. . . And it became always wider. . . the whole process of its coming into being, was above all diverting, it provided an excuse not to think for people who did not want to think anyway . . . (it) gave us some dreadful, fundamental things to think about . . .and kept us so busy with continuous changes and 'crises' and so fascinated . . . by the machinations of the 'national enemies,' without and within, that we had no time to think about these dreadful things that were growing, little by little, all around us. . .

Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, 'regretted,' that unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these 'little measures'. . . must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. . . .Each act. . . is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow.

You don't want to act, or even talk, alone. . . you don't want to 'go out of your way to make trouble.' . . .But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That's the difficulty. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves, when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. . . .You have accepted things you would not have accepted five years ago, a year ago, things your father. . . could never have imagined." :

From Milton Mayer, They Thought They Were Free, The Germans, 1938-45 (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1955)
http://www.ellensplace.net/fascism.html

Vikingwoman wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Here it is Sal word for word whether you choose to read it or not-

Has President Obama‘s tone become increasingly partisan? Megyn Kelly seems to think that it has, though one wonders what tone he should take while campaigning for his own party. But it was one recent comment in particular, made while the President was in Woonsocket, Rhode Island that “is raising a lot of eyebrows,” according to the America Live host. Mr. Obama had this to say about the GOP joining Democratic efforts for reform: “They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”
So you just made up a lie and added the bus? I figured that.

PD, Joanie and Herr Markle (our resident Nazi) prefer to believe that President Obama hates all whites, which, when you think about it, means these three conservatives will grasp at any straw to hurt the first black president of the U.S.  What else is new? Obama wants to do something to help the middle class, and to bring healthcare to millions who the republicans would rather let die in the street.  He's for big infrastructure projects that would employ thousands, if not millions, which the republicans are against -- since they believe all government projects are useless.  Obama believes women should have earning equality, students shouldn't be placed in debt for the rest of their lives to attend university, and there should be marriage equality.  Obama also believes the minimum wage should be changed to a Living Wage, which republicans oppose because they like it when most of America is living in poverty and their campaign donors remain the ultra rich.  

It's good to know your enemies.  Screw Amerika Inc.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Vikingwoman wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Here it is Sal word for word whether you choose to read it or not-

Has President Obama‘s tone become increasingly partisan? Megyn Kelly seems to think that it has, though one wonders what tone he should take while campaigning for his own party. But it was one recent comment in particular, made while the President was in Woonsocket, Rhode Island that “is raising a lot of eyebrows,” according to the America Live host. Mr. Obama had this to say about the GOP joining Democratic efforts for reform: “They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”
So you just made up a lie and added the bus? I figured that.

PD, Joanie and Herr Markle (our resident Nazi) prefer to believe that President Obama hates all whites, which, when you think about it, means these three conservatives will grasp at any straw to hurt the first black president of the U.S.  What else is new? Obama wants to do something to help the middle class, and to bring healthcare to millions who the republicans would rather let die in the street.  He's for big infrastructure projects that would employ thousands, if not millions, which the republicans are against -- since they believe all government projects are useless.  Obama believes women should have earning equality, students shouldn't be placed in debt for the rest of their lives to attend university, and there should be marriage equality.  Obama also believes the minimum wage should be changed to a Living Wage, which republicans oppose because they like it when most of America is living in poverty and their campaign donors remain the ultra rich.  

It's good to know your enemies.  Screw Amerika Inc.

If you don't understand his context, head back to middle school to learn some critical thinking. Plus, reread the speech he gave at the time he used his race baiting.