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Ebola Czar

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1Ebola Czar  Empty Ebola Czar 10/17/2014, 6:47 pm

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Obama appointed Ron Klain a former White House official and general counsel of Revolution, an investment group, will be responsible for coordinating the government's response to Ebola within the US.


Wow a non-medical Ebola specialist. The head of the CDC Dr. Tom Frieden.....what is his job. Good grief.


Rolling Eyes

2Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/17/2014, 7:20 pm

dumpcare



That's what I said a czar? WTF just fire the head of CDC and replace him.

3Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/17/2014, 7:34 pm

2seaoat



Children...children......the media is hyping Ebola and ISIS because from fear or sexual scandal you get viewership. With a jump in viewership, media across the board is able to increase their rates for the election cycle which historically is there biggest revenue generator. They are making a tidy profit which just like the old days of sweep week, they are pumping as much fear all the while taking a wheel barrow of money to the bank.

4Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/17/2014, 8:10 pm

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

ppaca wrote:That's what I said a czar? WTF just fire the head of CDC and replace him.


An investment attorney will make excellent medical decisions for the country.

5Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/17/2014, 8:25 pm

2seaoat



An investment attorney will make excellent medical decisions for the country.


That will not be his job description. An experienced administrator builds a system to get the best scientific input, he does not use his expertise to dictate the same. Most hospital Administrators I have known had MBAs and business background. Rarely, do you find a medical doctor as an administrator. Please tell me why that representative Miller with his real estate background should be relieved of his chairmanship because he is not a medical doctor overseeing the VA medical administration.......silly and completely ignores the folks who are doing hospital and healthcare administration in America.

6Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/17/2014, 8:53 pm

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Do we have an Ebola administration?

7Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/17/2014, 10:34 pm

Guest


Guest

Seaoat
You have to have a clue of what is going on

8Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 10:10 am

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Here's a clue:

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/10/gops_plan_to_frighten_america_a_four_point_plan_of_ebola_secret_service_border_isis/

FRIDAY, OCT 10, 2014 10:13 AM CDT

GOP’s scheme to frighten America: 4-point plan of Ebola, Secret Service, Border, ISIS

How Republicans plan to shoehorn fear over 4 very loosely related things through a lens of White House incompetence

Let whoever said the GOP has no message or plan heading into the final weeks of the election season be damned. They have a plan alright. And no, it’s not this cheap strip of single-ply toilet paper that Reince Priebus distributed last week. It is not Reince Priebus’s list of such specific agenda items as “have big economy good” and “more Constitution.” No one — no one — cared about that. The real message, the real plan, is four-pronged, a bit hazy, dumb, yeah, sure, but artistic and masterful all the same.

The GOP’s strategy for the last month of the campaign is Ebola, Secret Service, ISIS, and the Border. You take any combination of these disparate news events, connect them or don’t as you see fit, and somehow distill your concoction into an argument for why more Republicans should serve in the United States Senate.

Ebola hemorrhagic fever is a frequently fatal disease and one person in the United States has died from it. ISIS is a terrorist group controlling a piece of territory along the Iraq and Syrian border. The Secret Service is the agency that protects the president and his family and has suffered a couple of lapses. The border between Mexico in the United States is an international border that people sneak across sometimes.

What’s the link? That they are four bad things that are happening while Barack Obama is president and the Democratic Party is in control of the United States Senate. That’s the link. And what Republicans are trying to do is claim that the Obama administration and the Democratic Party’s incompetence is the direct cause of, or at least simultaneous to, these events.

The New York Times’ Peter Baker explains – to the extent that any human can explain this amorphous phenomenon with existing words – how this single-fiber thread unifies all of the Republicans’ far-flung attacks across the country,

With four weeks to go before the midterm elections, Republicans have made questions of how safe we are – from disease, terrorism or something unspoken and perhaps more ominous – central in their attacks against Democrats. Their message is decidedly grim: Mr. Obama and the Democratic Party run a government that is so fundamentally broken it cannot offer its people the most basic protection from harm.

Hear it on cable television and talk radio, where pundits and politicians play scientists speculating on whether Ebola will mutate into an airborne virus that kills millions. See it in the black-hooded, machine-gun-brandishing Islamic fighters appearing in campaign ads. Read about it in the unnerving accounts of the Secret Service leaving President Obama and his family exposed.

Republicans believe they have found the sentiment that will tie Congressional races together with a single national theme.

You don’t have to use all four. It’s more like ordering a combo platter at a restaurant: mix-and-match a plate of two or three different items out of a possible total of four.

You can say that ISIS is trying to infiltrate the country through its porous border; that Ebola-stricken Africans are trying to infiltrate the country through its porous border; that Ebola-stricken ISIS members are trying to infiltrate the country through its porous border; that ISIS is trying to infiltrate the White House and its vulnerable security perimeter; that Ebola-stricken Africans are trying to infiltrate the White House and its vulnerable security perimeter, etc. All of these things are happening, or they’re not, but they could.

President Obama, most generously, is too incompetent to stop any of these things from happening; more likely, he wants them to happen and is abetting their happening, since his end-game is and has always been destruction of the country from the inside.

We don’t think that any Republican Senate candidate has threaded the needle between all four yet — as in, “Ebola-stricken Africans are teaming up with ISIS in Mexico, crossing the porous border, and marching to Washington to infiltrate the White House and its vulnerable security perimeter.” Has any candidate said this yet? If not, first one one wins a combo platter at Sizzler.

Can we step back for a second and look at this? We are talking about a bunch of Senate races. Unhappy with things going badly in the world, that may or may not be connected, exaggerated, or hallucinated? Well then what you must do is vote for Thom Tillis to represent North Carolina in the Senate. What you must do to stop the specter of ISIS-Ebola coexistence is elect Tom Cotton to the Senate. To shore up the country’s defenses before ISIS seizes control of the White House, you must put David Perdue on the back bench of some Senate subcommittees. Do you see? No?

It’s the conjuring of the airborne toxic event as political strategy. No one knows what to make of it, ourselves included. We’d like to just laugh it off and dismiss it, and we’ll do that soon, but for now, we can’t help but admire the beauty of it all.

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9Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 10:19 am

Guest


Guest

A stupid decison. Don't we have a surgeon general or head of CDC ?

10Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 10:34 am

dumpcare



PACEDOG#1 wrote:A stupid decison. Don't we have a surgeon general or head of CDC ?

Yes and that is exactly my point, not the fact he is not a doctor, but why do we need him?

11Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 10:35 am

dumpcare



Seaoat, I know quite few MBA's that can't tie their shoes, wipe their nose or ass.

12Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 10:41 am

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

ppaca wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:A stupid decison. Don't we have a surgeon general or head of CDC ?

Yes and that is exactly my point, not the fact he is not a doctor, but why do we need him?

Obama needs him to collect information and hand feed it to him....so Obama doesn't continue to fuck up with his Ebola comments.

Think about it.........this guy did the same thing for Biden and Gore.

13Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 11:05 am

2seaoat



There is no crisis with Ebola. There is simply a need to apply resources and eradicate the virus expansion. Stringent monitoring, treatment protocols, and resources applied have all but eliminated Ebola from Senegal and Nigeria. Those two countries are light years behind the capabilities of the United States. This is a media created crisis which helps fuel media profit by driving ad rates up based on viewership right before the election campaign ads buy up every second of time from now until election day. However, it is amusing who falls for the manipulation.

14Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 11:10 am

knothead

knothead

The use of the term 'Czar' is a creation of media pundits not the Obama administration and when used in political context of right wing parlance is meant, of course, to be a pejorative rather than an accurate use of the term itself.

15Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 11:17 am

Guest


Guest

How many layers of bureaucracy does it take to make govt competent?

16Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 12:06 pm

2seaoat



Silliness.....it is obvious that hypocrisy is ultimately behind the issue and this is mere mind numbing stupid politics.

In 2009, Rep. Jerry Moran (R-KS) introduced a resolution calling on Obama to stop appointing czars. At the time Moran said, “The Obama Administration’s excessive ‘czar’ appointments exemplify the ever-expanding federal bureaucracy and big government that Kansans and Americans have grown tired of,” Moran said. “The increasing use of unconfirmed government officials is irresponsible – it is time Congress stops the executive branch from abusing this flawed appointment process. I have introduced this resolution to condemn the increased use of unconfirmed government officials and heads of agencies.”

On October 6, 2014, Rep. Moran co-authored a letter sent to the president that asked for an Ebola czar. “The Ebola outbreak in West Africa is a health crisis of massive proportions. You have announced a government-wide response to address this crisis and help Africans before it becomes a threat to the United States. This requires a global response and the U.S. needs to provide the necessary leadership to control and eliminate this outbreak. We believe it is imperative that you designate a single, senior advisor who will be responsible for coordinating all U.S. agencies and policies involving the international and domestic response to Ebola.”

17Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 6:59 pm

Guest


Guest

by ppaca Today at 10:35 am
Seaoat, I know quite few MBA's that can't tie their shoes, wipe their nose or ass.
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Yea one is BOF

18Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 8:38 pm

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:There is no crisis with Ebola.   There is simply a need to apply resources and eradicate the virus expansion.  Stringent monitoring, treatment protocols, and resources applied have all but eliminated Ebola from Senegal and Nigeria.  Those two countries are light years behind the capabilities of the United States.   This is a media created crisis which helps fuel media profit by driving ad rates up based on viewership right before the election campaign ads buy up every second of time from now until election day.  However, it is amusing who falls for the manipulation.

You mean like ISIS was the JV of terrorists and wasn't a problem. We had al Qaeda on their heels and on the run. Benghazi was because of a film strip. The IRS scandal was terrible and needed to be investigated. What IRS scandal? Ebola will never come to our shores. If Ebola does come here, our protocol will keep it from spreading. If it spreads, we know how to contain it. Oh...we don't know how to contain it but don't worry.

Keep up the good work, you're still good for a few chuckles.

Yeah, we can believe everything coming from this administration.

19Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 9:16 pm

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:There is no crisis with Ebola.   There is simply a need to apply resources and eradicate the virus expansion.  Stringent monitoring, treatment protocols, and resources applied have all but eliminated Ebola from Senegal and Nigeria.  Those two countries are light years behind the capabilities of the United States.   This is a media created crisis which helps fuel media profit by driving ad rates up based on viewership right before the election campaign ads buy up every second of time from now until election day.  However, it is amusing who falls for the manipulation.

You mean like ISIS was the JV of terrorists and wasn't a problem.  We had al Qaeda on their heels and on the run.  Benghazi was because of a film strip. The IRS scandal was terrible and needed to be investigated.  What IRS scandal?  Ebola will never come to our shores.  If Ebola does come here, our protocol will keep it from spreading.  If it spreads, we know how to contain it.  Oh...we don't know how to contain it but don't worry.

Keep up  the good work, you're still good for a few chuckles.

Yeah, we can believe everything coming from this administration.

You, on the other hand, aren't good for anything. How does that feel? Is it possible to die from humiliation?

20Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 9:33 pm

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

GOP’s scheme to frighten America: 4-point plan of Ebola, Secret Service, Border, ISIS
How Republicans plan to shoehorn fear over 4 very loosely related things through a lens of White House incompetence

Let whoever said the GOP has no message or plan heading into the final weeks of the election season be damned. They have a plan alright. And no, it’s not this cheap strip of single-ply toilet paper that Reince Priebus distributed last week. It is not Reince Priebus’s list of such specific agenda items as “have big economy good” and “more Constitution.” No one — no one — cared about that. The real message, the real plan, is four-pronged, a bit hazy, dumb, yeah, sure, but artistic and masterful all the same. [/quote]

Angry voters turn out more than others so they have to keep the base stirred up, throw some red meat out, doesn't matter if it is related, one thing to another just keep reminding them about why they hate the president. Bengazi, IRS, abortion, Obama-care and so on to the next item on the list. The hot buttons are still there to be pushed over and over. They never tire of it. It is like Lord of the Flies but with voters instead of boys on an island.

21Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/18/2014, 9:50 pm

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PACEDOG#1 wrote:A stupid decison. Don't we have a surgeon general or head of CDC ?

How is it possible for you to whine on this forum every single day and not know we don't have a Surgeon General because the President's candidate was turned down by the republicans because his acceptability to the NRA wasn't up to par.

Maybe while you check out the facts, you'll be able to explain why a candidate for Surgeon General has to like or not like more gun control? But then again, it's not fair for me to ask you to explain one of the many weird, decisions by the republican party -- when, as everyone knows -- the rejection of Obama's candidate had nothing whatever to do with guns -- and everything to do with the republicans telling America to go fuck itself while the right wing takes another swing at Obama. Reality.

22Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/19/2014, 12:13 am

knothead

knothead

othershoe1030 wrote:GOP’s scheme to frighten America: 4-point plan of Ebola, Secret Service, Border, ISIS
How Republicans plan to shoehorn fear over 4 very loosely related things through a lens of White House incompetence

Let whoever said the GOP has no message or plan heading into the final weeks of the election season be damned. They have a plan alright. And no, it’s not this cheap strip of single-ply toilet paper that Reince Priebus distributed last week. It is not Reince Priebus’s list of such specific agenda items as “have big economy good” and “more Constitution.” No one — no one — cared about that. The real message, the real plan, is four-pronged, a bit hazy, dumb, yeah, sure, but artistic and masterful all the same.

Angry voters turn out more than others so they have to keep the base stirred up, throw some red meat out, doesn't matter if it is related, one thing to another just keep reminding them about why they hate the president. Bengazi, IRS, abortion, Obama-care and so on to the next item on the list. The hot buttons are still there to be pushed over and over. They never tire of it. It is like Lord of the Flies but with voters instead of boys on an island.[/quote]

cheers cheers cheers

Spot on OS!!!

23Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/19/2014, 12:22 am

2seaoat



You cannot handicap stupidity. Mr. Markle needs some strokes and a lesson before he can even pretend to make a cogent argument. However, if he thinks Ebola is a real threat to the United States, he does not even want to know about the super bugs in America right now which we have few methods of stopping.......they are killing a thousand times the number of Americans dying from Ebola......but without strokes......it is off his radar screen,and being a real threat which requires public policy responses.......it will not be discussed......rather booga booga booga....Ebola, ISIS, children crossing the border, and a partridge in a pear tree.

24Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/19/2014, 12:24 am

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:A stupid decison. Don't we have a surgeon general or head of CDC ?

How is it possible for you to whine on this forum every single day and not know we don't have a Surgeon General because the President's candidate was turned down by the republicans because his acceptability to the NRA wasn't up to par.

Maybe while you check out the facts, you'll be able to explain why a candidate for Surgeon General has to like or not like more gun control?  But then again, it's not fair for me to ask you to explain one of the many weird, decisions by the republican party -- when, as everyone knows -- the rejection of Obama's candidate had nothing whatever to do with guns -- and everything to do with the republicans telling America to go fuck itself while the right wing takes another swing at Obama.  Reality.

We have an acting Surgeon General. Please share with us how a Surgeon General would have prevented the Doctor and Nurse from becoming infected and coming to America. How too would a Surgeon General have prevented Thomas Duncan from lying on his questionnaire and entering the US. How would a Surgeon General have protected the two nurses from being infected due to inadequate infectious protocol?

Where is your Nazi signature? You love it so much.

25Ebola Czar  Empty Re: Ebola Czar 10/20/2014, 8:24 pm

Guest


Guest

PkrBum wrote:How many layers of bureaucracy does it take to make govt competent?

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