Florida Blue to raise rates an average of 17.6% for 2015

Hot off the press:

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2014/August/01/Floridas-Largest-Health-Insurer-Is-Raising-Exchange-Rates-An-Average-Of-176-Percent.aspx

“In the individual market, this type of average rate increase is typical,” he told Kaiser Health News. “It’s is not aberrant.”

ppaca wrote:Hot off the press:

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2014/August/01/Floridas-Largest-Health-Insurer-Is-Raising-Exchange-Rates-An-Average-Of-176-Percent.aspx

Ouch!

2seaoat wrote:“In the individual market, this type of average rate increase is typical,” he told Kaiser Health News. “It’s is not aberrant.”

It certainly isn't across the broad spectrum of insurance company's, this is the largest increase I've seen for 2015. It also didn't help the state of Florida gave insurer's card blanc for two year's with their rate increases.

Just the push needed for Medicare for all........

Medicare for all if ever is year's away, what are the people going to do that really needed the subsidy to obtain insurance? Hell even the one's that were close to receiving a subsidy and bought with the hopes the increase would be low. They certainly will not be able to afford an increase like this. Any increase in enrollment in 2015 will be offset by the cancellation's.

Insurance policies are going to be too overpriced to purchase or keep which will lead to people dropping them and telling the government officials to take their mandate and stick it in their south ends.

When that happens I wouldn't want to be the low man on the totem pole who has to go out and attempt to enforce the law.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLR_0_mLYM

 

ppaca wrote:

2seaoat wrote:“In the individual market, this type of average rate increase is typical,” he told Kaiser Health News. “It’s is not aberrant.”

It certainly isn't across the broad spectrum of insurance company's, this is the largest increase I've seen for 2015. It also didn't help the state of Florida gave insurer's card blanc for two year's with their rate increases.

From your link:

"...The Republican-dominated Florida legislature last year suspended the state’s power to review health insurers’ rates to make sure they were actuarially sound. It left that job to federal officials who run the online insurance exchange that Florida uses. The federal government, though, has no authority to force insurers to lower insurance rates..."

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Democrats say Florida stripped insurance commissioner of power to set health plan rates




"Florida lawmakers have left the state vulnerable to unreasonably high insurance premiums in an effort to undermine Obamacare, say the state’s U.S. House Democrats.

Gov. Rick Scott and the Legislature cynically stripped Florida of its ability to review rates for the law’s rollout, U.S. Rep. Ted Deutch writes in a letter signed by all 10 of the state’s Democratic representatives.

The letter, which appeals to the federal government to step in on Floridians’ behalf, blames a law Scott signed at the end of May for refusing to allow the state insurance commissioner to "negotiate lower rates with companies or refuse rates that are too high."

It asks the U.S. Health and Human Services Department to "protect Florida consumers — since Gov. Scott, the Florida Legislature and Insurance Commissioner (Kevin) McCarty will not."

Did the governor and state legislators prevent the insurance commissioner from negotiating lower rates and refusing high ones?..."

ppaca wrote:

2seaoat wrote:“In the individual market, this type of average rate increase is typical,” he told Kaiser Health News. “It’s is not aberrant.”

It certainly isn't across the broad spectrum of insurance company's, this is the largest increase I've seen for 2015. It also didn't help the state of Florida gave insurer's card blanc for two year's with their rate increases.

I don't see the blame toward ObamaCare...gee...go figure.

ppaca wrote:Medicare for all if ever is year's away, what are the people going to do that really needed the subsidy to obtain insurance? Hell even the one's that were close to receiving a subsidy and bought with the hopes the increase would be low. They certainly will not be able to afford an increase like this. Any increase in enrollment in 2015 will be offset by the cancellation's.

2seaoat and ppaca want Socialized Healthcare yet they never have a method to PAY for the same.  So typical of our friends the Socialists.

Where will this money come from?  Please don't say the "RICH", they don't have anywhere NEAR this much money.

Current Debt . . . $17.2 TRILLION

Unfunded Liabilities (money we have PROMISED, do not have, nor do we have it coming in)

Social Security. . . . $16.6 TRILLION (10,000 Baby Boomers RETIRE EVERY DAY)  (How many workers are entering the job market daily?)

Prescription Drugs .$22.0 TRILLION

Medicare. . . . . . . . $87.5 TRILLION

Total Unfunded Liabilities $126.2 TRILLION!

Number of Households in 2010 = 112,611,029

Unfunded Liability Per Taxpayer  $1,101,203.00

http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html

PLUS ObamaCare and Untold TRILLIONS more in TAXES

Since far left radical House Speaker Nancy Pelosi took office in January 1, 2007 our debt has increased by $12+ TRILLION.

http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/15-things-gop-doesnt-want-you-know-about-taxes-debt



Tax cuts, wars, and interest on borrowing are fueling the national debt.

"...So, as the Republicans make Mitt Romney their official nominee for President of the United States, here are 15 things the GOP doesn't you to know about taxes and the debt.

(Click a link to jump to the details for each below):

President Obama Cut Taxes for Almost All Working Americans

Ronald Reagan Tripled the National Debt

George W. Bush Doubled the National Debt

Reagan Raised Debt Ceiling 17 Times, Bush Seven

Tax Cuts Don't Pay for Themselves

Almost All Working Americans Pay Taxes

The GOP's "Job Creators" Don't Create Jobs

Low Capital Gains Taxes Fuel Income Inequality...
...But Not Investment

The Estate Tax Has Virtually No Impact on Family Farms and Businesses

Income Inequality Has Reached an 80 Year High...
...While the Federal Tax Burden Has Hit a 60 Year Low

Romney-Ryan Plan Another Massive Tax Cut Windfall for the Wealthy

Romney, Ryan Won't Say Which of the $1 Trillion in Tax Breaks GOP Will End

Romney-Ryan Will Add More Debt Than President Obama

[...]

CAN YOU F'ING READ?

Floridatexan wrote:
http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/15-things-gop-doesnt-want-you-know-about-taxes-debt

crooksandliars.com/files/vfs/2012/08/tax_cuts_debt_sm.jpg" alt=""/>

Tax cuts, wars, and interest on borrowing are fueling the national debt.

"...So, as the Republicans make Mitt Romney their official nominee for President of the United States, here are 15 things the GOP doesn't you to know about taxes and the debt.

(Click a link to jump to the details for each below):

President Obama Cut Taxes for Almost All Working Americans

Ronald Reagan Tripled the National Debt

George W. Bush Doubled the National Debt

Reagan Raised Debt Ceiling 17 Times, Bush Seven

Tax Cuts Don't Pay for Themselves

Almost All Working Americans Pay Taxes

The GOP's "Job Creators" Don't Create Jobs

Low Capital Gains Taxes Fuel Income Inequality...
...But Not Investment

The Estate Tax Has Virtually No Impact on Family Farms and Businesses

Income Inequality Has Reached an 80 Year High...
...While the Federal Tax Burden Has Hit a 60 Year Low

Romney-Ryan Plan Another Massive Tax Cut Windfall for the Wealthy

Romney, Ryan Won't Say Which of the $1 Trillion in Tax Breaks GOP Will End

Romney-Ryan Will Add More Debt Than President Obama

[...]

Humorous but of no meaning. Crooks and Liars know well the how to twist the statistics and mean nothing.

And yet, nothing you said mentioned one word about how you were going to PAY for your dream world.

How can Romney-Ryan add more in debt since they aren't even in any office or did you accidentally add that from your copy and paste?

Try again,

Where will this money come from? Please don't say the "RICH", they don't have anywhere NEAR this much money.

Current Debt . . . $17.2 TRILLION (No budget approved for 2013)

Unfunded Liabilities (money we have PROMISED, do not have, nor do we have it coming in)

Social Security. . . . $16.6 TRILLION (10,000 Baby Boomers RETIRE EVERY DAY) (How many workers are entering the job market daily?)

Prescription Drugs .$22.0 TRILLION

Medicare. . . . . . . . $87.5 TRILLION

Total Unfunded Liabilities $126.2 TRILLION!

Number of Households in 2010 = 112,611,029

Unfunded Liability Per Taxpayer $1,101,203.00

http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html

PLUS ObamaCare and Untold TRILLIONS more in TAXES

Since far left radical House Speaker Nancy Pelosi took office in January 1, 2007 our debt has increased by $12+ TRILLION.

SEVEN+ TRILLION since President Barack Hussein Obama took office.

CAN YOU F'ING READ?


No he cannot. He can cut and paste. It is funny. The richest country in the world cannot do what all other countries are doing in the world and Mr. Markle posts absurd numbers which basically say that Americans must die without healthcare because it cannot be a priority. Sorry Mr. Markle we can easily afford Medicare for all because it will SAVE us money and reduce the deficit. It however will require a 3% sales tax on consumption.........but then again when you are a shill for the insurance companies, you post the same false cut and paste over and over again.......drug costs in your cut and paste are grossly overstated, and the 17 trillion deficit is just what Mr. Cheney said.....they do not matter, so you will probably be gone, but in the next eight years we will see medicare for all.

FT, you lie about Obama cutting taxes. If that were
The case them why was a record 1.9 trillion in tax collected in the last year? Why didn't he continue the Bush tax cuts? When those tax cuts expired and he did not renew them, well TAXES got raised. It's simple math.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:FT, you lie about Obama cutting taxes. If that were
The case them why was a record 1.9 trillion in tax collected in the last year? Why didn't he continue the Bush tax cuts? When those tax cuts expired and he did not renew them, well TAXES got raised. It's simple math.

I do not lie. Obama should have called for an end to the Bush tax cuts when he took office and not waited. But he apparently thought then that he was dealing with rational people who actually had the country's best interests at heart. The Bush tax cuts were heavily weighted to favor the rich, not middle class citizens, although, as with everything else, Bush LIED.

2seaoat wrote:CAN YOU F'ING READ?


No he cannot.  He can cut and paste.  It is funny.  The richest country in the world cannot do what all other countries are doing in the world and Mr. Markle posts absurd numbers which basically say that Americans must die without healthcare because it cannot be a priority.  Sorry Mr. Markle we can easily afford Medicare for all because it will SAVE us money and reduce the deficit.  It however will require a 3% sales tax on consumption.........but then again when you are a shill for the insurance companies, you post the same false cut and paste over and over again.......drug costs in your cut and paste are grossly overstated, and the 17 trillion deficit is just what Mr. Cheney said.....they do not matter, so you will probably be gone, but in the next eight years we will see medicare for all.

Hey! No problem. We'll just nationalize the health care industry and put all the doctors and nurses on the government/military pay scale. Doctors start out at O-1 to O-2 pay and nurses start at E-4 to E-5 pay...

Do you think they'd look better in camouflage or khaki's?

They can kiss that couple million dollar summer home on the lake with the jet ski's for each of the kids goodbye because...

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObntvRcKMrE#aid=P9PDXK9LZVI

  

http://www.salon.com/2014/08/06/conservatives_get_their_obamacare_wish_and_now_condemn_their_own_sabotage/

An alternate headline "States that obstruct the ACA continue to see shitty results, and vice versa."

Floridatexan wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:FT, you lie about Obama cutting taxes. If that were
The case them why was a record 1.9 trillion in tax collected in the last year? Why didn't he continue the Bush tax cuts? When those tax cuts expired and he did not renew them, well TAXES got raised. It's simple math.

I do not lie.  Obama should have called for an end to the Bush tax cuts when he took office and not waited.  But he apparently thought then that he was dealing with rational people who actually had the country's best interests at heart.  The Bush tax cuts were heavily weighted to favor the rich, not middle class citizens, although, as with everything else, Bush LIED.  

Heavily weighed for the rich my arse. I started paying almost 300 more a month when all that expired.

boards of FL wrote:An alternate headline "States that obstruct the ACA continue to see shitty results, and vice versa."

Or a federal government that cannot write its own laws appropriately...