Jesus lived in a cruel world run by the ultra rich and he fought against that inequality.

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.[/size][/color]

Now that is a hoot![/color]

More lies.

This especially is despicable, EVEN for you.

You have to piece together my words in order for you to find a way to so childishly attempt to ridicule my statement.

As you know, and chose to lie about, are my words.

Show us all where I've said that.  I say the people matter when they are just posting their OPINIONS.  I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.

Another bold faced lie from Herr Markle!  LOL

And still you are incapable of posting ANYTHING to prove your point. Keep laughing at yourself.

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.[/size][/color]

Now that is a hoot![/color]

More lies.

This especially is despicable, EVEN for you.

You have to piece together my words in order for you to find a way to so childishly attempt to ridicule my statement.

As you know, and chose to lie about, are my words.

Show us all where I've said that.  I say the people matter when they are just posting their OPINIONS.  I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.

Another bold faced lie from Herr Markle!  LOL

And still you are incapable of posting ANYTHING to prove your point.  Keep laughing at yourself.

Well, let's start with how you call me a communist ... everyone here knows that's a lie. I'd say that's proof you don't post facts. LOL

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.[/size][/color]

Now that is a hoot![/color]

More lies.

This especially is despicable, EVEN for you.

You have to piece together my words in order for you to find a way to so childishly attempt to ridicule my statement.

As you know, and chose to lie about, are my words.

Show us all where I've said that.  I say the people matter when they are just posting their OPINIONS.  I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.

Another bold faced lie from Herr Markle!  LOL

And still you are incapable of posting ANYTHING to prove your point.  Keep laughing at yourself.

Well, let's start with how you call me a communist ... everyone here knows that's a lie.  I'd say that's proof you don't post facts.  LOL

Im pretty sure you agree with the following:

Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a socioeconomic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production and characterised by the absence of classes, money,[1][2] and the state; as well as a social, political and economic ideology and movement that aims to establish this social order.[3] The movement to develop communism, in its Marxist–Leninist interpretations, significantly influenced the history of the 20th century, which saw intense rivalry between the Communist states in the Eastern bloc and the most developed capitalist states of the Western world.[4]

Communism was first developed into a scientific theory by German philosopher and social scientist Karl Marx,[5] and the collective understanding of this scientific approach is today commonly referred to as Marxism. In the Marxist understanding, communism is the endpoint of human social evolution which will inevitably come into fruition through economic and social advances in socialism. Socialism, being the new order established after the demise of capitalism, is herein characterized by the working class having state power and undertaking the process of abolishing capitalist property and economic relations and establishing social (i.e. public, collective) ownership and management of society's political, economic, and cultural institutions. In accordance with the socialized processes of production, appropriation also becomes socialized as goods and services become consumed on a social basis with free access for the individual. Communism becomes fully realized when the distinction between classes is no longer possible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.[/size][/color]

Now that is a hoot![/color]

More lies.

This especially is despicable, EVEN for you.

You have to piece together my words in order for you to find a way to so childishly attempt to ridicule my statement.

As you know, and chose to lie about, are my words.

Show us all where I've said that.  I say the people matter when they are just posting their OPINIONS.  I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.

Another bold faced lie from Herr Markle!  LOL

And still you are incapable of posting ANYTHING to prove your point.  Keep laughing at yourself.

Well, let's start with how you call me a communist ... everyone here knows that's a lie.  I'd say that's proof you don't post facts.  LOL

Im pretty sure you agree with the following:

Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a socioeconomic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production and characterised by the absence of classes, money,[1][2] and the state; as well as a social, political and economic ideology and movement that aims to establish this social order.[3] The movement to develop communism, in its Marxist–Leninist interpretations, significantly influenced the history of the 20th century, which saw intense rivalry between the Communist states in the Eastern bloc and the most developed capitalist states of the Western world.[4]

Communism was first developed into a scientific theory by German philosopher and social scientist Karl Marx,[5] and the collective understanding of this scientific approach is today commonly referred to as Marxism. In the Marxist understanding, communism is the endpoint of human social evolution which will inevitably come into fruition through economic and social advances in socialism. Socialism, being the new order established after the demise of capitalism, is herein characterized by the working class having state power and undertaking the process of abolishing capitalist property and economic relations and establishing social (i.e. public, collective) ownership and management of society's political, economic, and cultural institutions. In accordance with the socialized processes of production, appropriation also becomes socialized as goods and services become consumed on a social basis with free access for the individual. Communism becomes fully realized when the distinction between classes is no longer possible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

Go back to your desk kiddo.  Look up socialism.  That's me. While you're at it, tell us why we shouldn't think of you as a Nazi. LOL

Wordslinger wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.[/size][/color]

Now that is a hoot![/color]

More lies.

This especially is despicable, EVEN for you.

You have to piece together my words in order for you to find a way to so childishly attempt to ridicule my statement.

As you know, and chose to lie about, are my words.

Show us all where I've said that.  I say the people matter when they are just posting their OPINIONS.  I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.

Another bold faced lie from Herr Markle!  LOL

And still you are incapable of posting ANYTHING to prove your point.  Keep laughing at yourself.

Well, let's start with how you call me a communist ... everyone here knows that's a lie.  I'd say that's proof you don't post facts.  LOL

Im pretty sure you agree with the following:

Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a socioeconomic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production and characterised by the absence of classes, money,[1][2] and the state; as well as a social, political and economic ideology and movement that aims to establish this social order.[3] The movement to develop communism, in its Marxist–Leninist interpretations, significantly influenced the history of the 20th century, which saw intense rivalry between the Communist states in the Eastern bloc and the most developed capitalist states of the Western world.[4]

Communism was first developed into a scientific theory by German philosopher and social scientist Karl Marx,[5] and the collective understanding of this scientific approach is today commonly referred to as Marxism. In the Marxist understanding, communism is the endpoint of human social evolution which will inevitably come into fruition through economic and social advances in socialism. Socialism, being the new order established after the demise of capitalism, is herein characterized by the working class having state power and undertaking the process of abolishing capitalist property and economic relations and establishing social (i.e. public, collective) ownership and management of society's political, economic, and cultural institutions. In accordance with the socialized processes of production, appropriation also becomes socialized as goods and services become consumed on a social basis with free access for the individual. Communism becomes fully realized when the distinction between classes is no longer possible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

Go back to your desk kiddo.  Look up socialism.  That's me.  LOL

I'm sorry. Did you not read that? Its very short read. Can you tell me which out of that you disagree with?

Wordslinger wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.[/size][/color]

Now that is a hoot![/color]

More lies.

This especially is despicable, EVEN for you.

You have to piece together my words in order for you to find a way to so childishly attempt to ridicule my statement.

As you know, and chose to lie about, are my words.

Show us all where I've said that.  I say the people matter when they are just posting their OPINIONS.  I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.

Another bold faced lie from Herr Markle!  LOL

And still you are incapable of posting ANYTHING to prove your point.  Keep laughing at yourself.

Well, let's start with how you call me a communist ... everyone here knows that's a lie.  I'd say that's proof you don't post facts.  LOL

Im pretty sure you agree with the following:

Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a socioeconomic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production and characterised by the absence of classes, money,[1][2] and the state; as well as a social, political and economic ideology and movement that aims to establish this social order.[3] The movement to develop communism, in its Marxist–Leninist interpretations, significantly influenced the history of the 20th century, which saw intense rivalry between the Communist states in the Eastern bloc and the most developed capitalist states of the Western world.[4]

Communism was first developed into a scientific theory by German philosopher and social scientist Karl Marx,[5] and the collective understanding of this scientific approach is today commonly referred to as Marxism. In the Marxist understanding, communism is the endpoint of human social evolution which will inevitably come into fruition through economic and social advances in socialism. Socialism, being the new order established after the demise of capitalism, is herein characterized by the working class having state power and undertaking the process of abolishing capitalist property and economic relations and establishing social (i.e. public, collective) ownership and management of society's political, economic, and cultural institutions. In accordance with the socialized processes of production, appropriation also becomes socialized as goods and services become consumed on a social basis with free access for the individual. Communism becomes fully realized when the distinction between classes is no longer possible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

Go back to your desk kiddo.  Look up socialism.  That's me.  While you're at it, tell us why we shouldn't think of you as a Nazi. LOL

Yes, here is YOU Wordslinger.  Advocate of SHARED MISERY...AND COMMUNISM.

After all this time, I'd think you had caught on but you just don't want to publically take that extra step.


so·cial·ism  [soh-shuh-liz-uhm]  Show IPA  

noun

1.  a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

2.  procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.

3.  (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.[/size][/color]

Now that is a hoot![/color]

More lies.

This especially is despicable, EVEN for you.

You have to piece together my words in order for you to find a way to so childishly attempt to ridicule my statement.

As you know, and chose to lie about, are my words.

Show us all where I've said that.  I say the people matter when they are just posting their OPINIONS.  I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.

Another bold faced lie from Herr Markle!  LOL

And still you are incapable of posting ANYTHING to prove your point.  Keep laughing at yourself.

Well, let's start with how you call me a communist ... everyone here knows that's a lie.  I'd say that's proof you don't post facts.  LOL

Im pretty sure you agree with the following:

Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a socioeconomic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production and characterised by the absence of classes, money,[1][2] and the state; as well as a social, political and economic ideology and movement that aims to establish this social order.[3] The movement to develop communism, in its Marxist–Leninist interpretations, significantly influenced the history of the 20th century, which saw intense rivalry between the Communist states in the Eastern bloc and the most developed capitalist states of the Western world.[4]

Communism was first developed into a scientific theory by German philosopher and social scientist Karl Marx,[5] and the collective understanding of this scientific approach is today commonly referred to as Marxism. In the Marxist understanding, communism is the endpoint of human social evolution which will inevitably come into fruition through economic and social advances in socialism. Socialism, being the new order established after the demise of capitalism, is herein characterized by the working class having state power and undertaking the process of abolishing capitalist property and economic relations and establishing social (i.e. public, collective) ownership and management of society's political, economic, and cultural institutions. In accordance with the socialized processes of production, appropriation also becomes socialized as goods and services become consumed on a social basis with free access for the individual. Communism becomes fully realized when the distinction between classes is no longer possible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

Go back to your desk kiddo.  Look up socialism.  That's me.  While you're at it, tell us why we shouldn't think of you as a Nazi. LOL

Yes, here is YOU Wordslinger.  Advocate of SHARED MISERY...AND COMMUNISM.

After all this time, I'd think you had caught on but you just don't want to publically take that extra step.


so·cial·ism  [soh-shuh-liz-uhm]  Show IPA  

noun

1.  a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

2.  procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.

3.  (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

Or: Full Definition of SOCIALISM
1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2
a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3
: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Sorry Herr Markle, you calling me a communist doesn't make me one. It's the same sort of bald faced lying you express everyday on this forum.

As the Webster definition I posted above says, it's halfway between capitalism and communism.

I believe in the individual's right to own private property, and regulated so wages are fair and working conditions are acceptable, I have no problem with private ownership of companies or corporations.

Now explain to us why we shouldn't think of you as a Nazi ...

Once again the far, right whakko herd is unable to contest what I stated in the original thread -- that Jesus lived in a cruel world run by the ultra rich, and he fought against that inequality.

Instead, in a form of desperation which colors almost all their claims, they accuse me of being a communist. Here's something they didn't know -- given a choice between extreme capitalism -- a society driven into poverty and serving no other purpose than to provide cheap labor for the blood sucking profits of big shots -- and living under communism ... I'd still be a socialist.

Well, thanks guys for admitting that Jesus fought the inequality of the ultra rich. Your inability to contest that claim speaks loudly ... LOL

For someone that claims to be socialist... you seem to know little about it. It's not a static half way between capitalism and communism... it's half way in the transition from capitalism TO communism. You really should study your ideology.

PkrBum wrote:For someone that claims to be socialist... you seem to know little about it. It's not a static half way between capitalism and communism... it's half way in the transition from capitalism TO communism.  You really should study your ideology.

Whatever Norway, Sweden, Denmark are ... is fine with me. They're surely not communist. I'd love for America to have the same sense of life satisfaction as those people do!

Wordslinger wrote:http://www.salon.com/2014/04/20/you_want_people_like_that_to_hate_you_reza_aslan_on_glenn_beck_that_fox_news_interview_and_who_gets_to_speak_for_jesus/?source=newsletter


If Reza Aslan wasn't a Muslim, his scholarly work on Jesus would have a much stronger impact.

But, as Herr Markle so often states, the truth doesn't matter unless it's spoken by people on your side.   LOL

Stated by my good friend and Socialist/Communist Wordslinger.

"Jesus lived in a cruel world run by the ultra rich and he fought against that inequality."

First, as a Heathen, why do you care how someone who you do not believe existed, fought against inequality?

Second, if Jesus exists, which you deny, how did he fight inequality?

Perhaps you should purchase Bill O'Reilly's "Killing Jesus". You would learn a lot!

Wordslinger wrote:

PkrBum wrote:For someone that claims to be socialist... you seem to know little about it. It's not a static half way between capitalism and communism... it's half way in the transition from capitalism TO communism.  You really should study your ideology.

Whatever Norway, Sweden, Denmark are ... is fine with me.  They're surely not communist.  I'd love for America to have the same sense of life satisfaction as those people do!

My mother is Norweigian. Both her parents come from Norway and we were talking about that the other night. There are no poor people there like here in the US. They have a much better quality of life there.

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Markle wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.[/size][/color]

Now that is a hoot![/color]

More lies.

This especially is despicable, EVEN for you.

You have to piece together my words in order for you to find a way to so childishly attempt to ridicule my statement.

As you know, and chose to lie about, are my words.

Show us all where I've said that.  I say the people matter when they are just posting their OPINIONS.  I post FACTS, you post OPINIONS.

Another bold faced lie from Herr Markle!  LOL

And still you are incapable of posting ANYTHING to prove your point.  Keep laughing at yourself.

Well, let's start with how you call me a communist ... everyone here knows that's a lie.  I'd say that's proof you don't post facts.  LOL

Im pretty sure you agree with the following:

Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a socioeconomic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production and characterised by the absence of classes, money,[1][2] and the state; as well as a social, political and economic ideology and movement that aims to establish this social order.[3] The movement to develop communism, in its Marxist–Leninist interpretations, significantly influenced the history of the 20th century, which saw intense rivalry between the Communist states in the Eastern bloc and the most developed capitalist states of the Western world.[4]

Communism was first developed into a scientific theory by German philosopher and social scientist Karl Marx,[5] and the collective understanding of this scientific approach is today commonly referred to as Marxism. In the Marxist understanding, communism is the endpoint of human social evolution which will inevitably come into fruition through economic and social advances in socialism. Socialism, being the new order established after the demise of capitalism, is herein characterized by the working class having state power and undertaking the process of abolishing capitalist property and economic relations and establishing social (i.e. public, collective) ownership and management of society's political, economic, and cultural institutions. In accordance with the socialized processes of production, appropriation also becomes socialized as goods and services become consumed on a social basis with free access for the individual. Communism becomes fully realized when the distinction between classes is no longer possible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

Go back to your desk kiddo.  Look up socialism.  That's me.  While you're at it, tell us why we shouldn't think of you as a Nazi. LOL

Yes, here is YOU Wordslinger.  Advocate of SHARED MISERY...AND COMMUNISM.

After all this time, I'd think you had caught on but you just don't want to publically take that extra step.


so·cial·ism  [soh-shuh-liz-uhm]  Show IPA  

noun

1.  a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

2.  procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.

3.  (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

Or:  Full Definition of SOCIALISM
1
:  any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2
a :  a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b :  a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3
:  a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Sorry Herr Markle, you calling me a communist doesn't make me one.  It's the same sort of bald faced lying you express everyday on this forum.

As the Webster definition I posted above says, it's halfway between capitalism and communism.

I believe in the individual's right to own private property, and regulated so wages are fair and working conditions are acceptable, I have no problem with private ownership of companies or corporations.

Now explain to us why we shouldn't think of you as a Nazi ...

Because you use a trademark of Nazi's as your signature, do you not? You also surround yourself with the writings and philosophies of Communists.



Here is the truth...as hard as it is for you to accept from one of the greatest Presidents in history.

How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg.

Abraham Lincoln

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/abrahamlin107482.html#hoEUCIqHSE8ec7R0.99

Dreamsglore wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

PkrBum wrote:For someone that claims to be socialist... you seem to know little about it. It's not a static half way between capitalism and communism... it's half way in the transition from capitalism TO communism.  You really should study your ideology.

Whatever Norway, Sweden, Denmark are ... is fine with me.  They're surely not communist.  I'd love for America to have the same sense of life satisfaction as those people do!

My mother is Norweigian. Both her parents come from Norway and we were talking about that the other night. There are no poor people there like here in the US. They have a much better quality of life there.

I you took ONE of our major cities, the population of Norway, and provided them with a huge income from oil, energy and seafood that they sell to other countries, no one would be "poor" here either. As for a quality of life, I have been to Norway several times. They get along with far less than do Americans with average incomes.

When polled about why Scandinavian's rated themselves as being happy, they replied they didn't know why they were rated that way except that they knew there was no chance of them achieving more or changing their social status.

Wordslinger wrote:http://www.salon.com/2014/04/20/you_want_people_like_that_to_hate_you_reza_aslan_on_glenn_beck_that_fox_news_interview_and_who_gets_to_speak_for_jesus/?source=newsletter


If Reza Aslan wasn't a Muslim, his scholarly work on Jesus would have a much stronger impact.

But, as Herr Markle so often states, the truth doesn't matter unless it's spoken by people on your side.   LOL

Interesting. I think he moves from finding the historical Jesus to placing a political spin on him. While historical research asks the political/economic/social issues involved in the time period, I think he places too much emphasis (could be from the questions asked of him) on the issues of the day rather than explaining historical Jesus in the issues of his time.

Also, he states, "Well, he was a Jew preaching Judaism to other Jews. That’s the simplest and most profound way of putting it. And that phrase helps to separate the Jesus of history from the Christ of faith. The Jesus of history was a Jew preaching Judaism to other Jews."

This is true. While I don't know if there is a separate historical account of Jesus' "sermon on the mount," the Biblical account shows him setting a new standard, a heart standard if you will, to the Scripture the Jews possessed. And this definitely makes a move from written law to what I call law of the heart. And this is the place where many will say Jesus was more socialist than Republican - which makes me laugh because he was apolitical.

Again, I think if one can present Jesus, historically in the setting of his time and not in the setting of modern politics they may find something worth understanding about him.

Otherwise, the author skews the historical account by the modern political comparison.

Just my opinion.

Quite interesting, though, that his wife/wife's family is Christian. Now that's a story I'd like to read.