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What to do about this corruption in the whitehouse regarding the IRS

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Corruption: New emails show that both the IRS and Justice Department were involved in a probe of Tea Party and other conservative groups. This is no mere scandal — it's a major breach of the law.

The newly released emails were gathered for a Freedom of Information Act request by Judicial Watch, a nonpartisan public interest law group. They show that former Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner discussed with the Justice Department going after conservative groups that she believed lied about their political activities.


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What do you have when you have a government that targets its citizens? And in this case using one of the most feared organizations to do so.

We need to be having some impeachments.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

:)Corruption: New emails show that both the IRS and Justice Department were involved in a probe of Tea Party and other conservative groups. This is no mere scandal — it's a major breach of the law.

The newly released emails were gathered for a Freedom of Information Act request by Judicial Watch, a nonpartisan public interest law group. They show that former Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner discussed with the Justice Department going after conservative groups that she believed lied about their political activities.


Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/041714-697618-new-emails-show-extensive-plan-to-target-conservative-groups.htm#ixzz2zQYxMlzb
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What do you have when you have a government that targets its citizens? And in this case using one of the most feared organizations to do so.

We need to be having some impeachments.

You and PaceDog can only hope it truly happens......
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ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
:)Corruption: New emails show that both the IRS and Justice Department were involved in a probe of Tea Party and other conservative groups. This is no mere scandal — it's a major breach of the law.

The newly released emails were gathered for a Freedom of Information Act request by Judicial Watch, a nonpartisan public interest law group. They show that former Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner discussed with the Justice Department going after conservative groups that she believed lied about their political activities.


Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/041714-697618-new-emails-show-extensive-plan-to-target-conservative-groups.htm#ixzz2zQYxMlzb
Follow us: @IBDinvestors on Twitter | InvestorsBusinessDaily on Facebook

What do you have when you have a government that targets its citizens? And in this case using one of the most feared organizations to do so.

We need to be having some impeachments.

You and PaceDog can only hope it truly happens......
 What a Face 

So you don't think our elected officials should follow the laws? I just want to be clear about what you are saying.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


http://www.propublica.org/article/what-newly-released-docs-tell-us-about-the-irs-and-how-it-handles-dark-mone

What Newly Released Docs Tell Us About the IRS and How It Handles Dark Money Groups

Here are five takeaways ProPublica found from the documents released Wednesday by a House committee.
by Kim Barker and Theodoric Meyer
ProPublica, April 9, 2014, 11:52 p.m.

The IRS planned to deny the application of Crossroads GPS.

Crossroads GPS spent more than $90 million from unknown donors to elect conservatives in the 2010 and 2012 elections, far more than any other dark money group. By the beginning of 2013, the IRS was planning to deny the group's application, the documents show.

After applying to the IRS in September 2010, Crossroads started spending, and campaign-finance watchdogs started complaining. An IRS panel considered taking a deeper look at Crossroads twice — in November 2010 and June 2011 — but rejected the idea both times. One reviewer in November 2010 said that Crossroads was a "for-profit entity," a mistake Lerner later wrote that she found "most disturbing."

By June 2012, the IRS created a spreadsheet on Crossroads to analyze the group's TV ad costs and track whether the ads were political or issue advocacy. A description of the group's website in an IRS spreadsheet said it "appears to be an anti-Obama Administration website; however there are educational materials on site."

In late 2012, Crossroads' application was released to ProPublica in response to a public-records request — even though it wasn't supposed to be made public. The application showed that Crossroads told the IRS that its political spending "will be limited in amount."

The IRS received 25 referrals on Crossroads GPS between 2010 and 2012, the documents show — a referral is a complaint about a nonprofit, and can include a formal request for investigation or simply a news article.

On Jan. 2, 2013, an IRS spokeswoman, Michelle Eldridge, emailed Lerner and other IRS officials about questions from ProPublica over Crossroads' application. "I recommend that we just let this one sit and wait out the deadline," she wrote.

In an email two days later, Lerner wrote that she had read through allegations from campaign finance watchdogs about Crossroads, adding that they "were really damning."

By Jan. 9, 2013, the IRS was drafting a denial letter to Crossroads, the documents show. There was no more significant action until May 2, 2013, when a call was made to discuss the "draft denial letter."

Then on May 8, 2013, documents indicate that the IRS was also looking at "the draft denial of a similar case."

From May 13 until May 17, 2013, the IRS continued "working on draft of letter." By May 30, 2013, the first working draft of the denial was finished and sent for review.

But by that point, the IRS had come under scrutiny for revelations that it had targeted Tea Party groups for extra review. There's no proof that the letter to Crossroads was ever sent.

In an emailed statement Wednesday, Crossroads GPS President Steven Law said the group was still waiting to hear final action from the IRS on its application. Like the House Ways and Means Committee, Law accused Lerner of improperly singling out Crossroads for extra review.

"Crossroads GPS submitted its application to the IRS for formal recognition of its non-profit status when the group was formed in 2010," Law said. "It is now apparent that Ms. Lerner was directly and improperly involved in targeting our application, which may explain why we are still awaiting final action."

Meanwhile, Lerner's lawyer, William Taylor, said that Lerner had done nothing wrong. "She did not interfere with the rights of any organization to a tax exemption," he said in a statement.

The IRS also planned to deny the applications of other conservative groups that had spent on elections after telling the IRS they wouldn't do so.

Crossroads GPS wasn't the only dark money group facing denial before the IRS controversy blew up.

In response to a public-records request in late 2012, the IRS had also sent ProPublica the pending applications for five other conservative social welfare nonprofits that had told the IRS that they wouldn't spend money on politics but then did so. The groups were Americans for Responsible Leadership, Freedom Path, Rightchange.com II, America Is Not Stupid and A Better America Now.

ProPublica wrote about the groups on Jan. 2, 2013. Nikole Flax, the chief of staff to the acting IRS commissioner at the time, forwarded the story to Lerner and two other IRS officials on the afternoon it was published in an email with the subject line, "latest article."

The same day, Lerner asked to set up a meeting to talk about the groups' applications.

The Ways and Means Committee found that four of the five groups had been subjected to heightened scrutiny, and three were audited, though it's not clear which ones. The IRS recognized both America Is Not Stupid and A Better America Now last year. Americans for Responsible Leadership was also recognized in October 2013 — despite spending almost $10 million on elections in 2012 and paying a record-breaking fine in California for violations of election laws.

In January 2013, Lerner also indicated more social welfare nonprofits would be denied. On Jan. 31, she emailed the chief of the IRS office of appeals, saying that in the next few months her office believed appeals would "get a lot of business" regarding denials of social welfare applications.

"I told them (the appeals group) this is a place where we have worked very hard to be consistent and have all our cases worked by one group, and suggested th ey (sic) might want to do something similar," Lerner wrote, adding that her office was being audited because of allegations of political bias in these cases. "If I were you, this is definitely something I'd want to be aware of and have a high level person overseeing and reporting regula rly (sic) to me. You were in TEGE (the Tax Exempt/Government Entities division) long enough to understand how dangerous what we do can be."

The documents included spreadsheets of the application status of various groups, including one providing aid in Pakistan and another trying to set up a medical marijuana dispensary as a charity. One spreadsheet indicated that a Tea Party group could be approved as a social welfare nonprofit but not as a charity.

But of all the groups listed in a 2011 spreadsheet as being flagged for review, only Emerge America and its affiliates ended up being denied. Those groups trained Democratic women to run for office.

The IRS really is not equipped to police elections — and knows it.

In the documents Wednesday, Lerner acknowledges how poorly the IRS monitors these groups, which are allowed to spend money on elections as long as they can justify they primarily work to benefit the community at large.

At one point, on Jan. 7, 2013, she wrote an email complaining that the IRS was not following up with groups that hadn't filed their tax returns, or Form 990s. She wrote that if the IRS only opened audits on groups that filed tax returns, "that's a big hole in the system."

"Then you have newspapers telling us what the orgs (sic) are doing, but we never look," she wrote. "If the org has been around log (sic) enough to owe us a 990 and they aren't filing to hide what they are alleged to have done, it should be our job to go out and get the 990 and then determine whether the allegations — that are very strong — are true."

"My level of confidence that we are equipped to do this work continues to be shaken," she wrote in another email. "I don't even know what to recommend to make this better."

Officials from two campaign-finance watchdog groups, Democracy 21 and the Campaign Legal Center, said Wednesday that they had met with Lerner and other IRS officials in early January 2013 over their allegations that several social welfare nonprofits, including a liberal group and a nonpartisan one, were overly political. They said Lerner refused to talk about individual taxpayers.

"We left the meeting extremely frustrated because neither Ms. Lerner nor her colleagues revealed anything," said Paul S. Ryan, senior counsel for the Campaign Legal Center. "I would use the word 'frustrated' in general in our attitude toward the IRS." He later added, "The IRS hasn't done anything" to enforce restrictions on political spending with these groups.

Most new liberal groups don't apply to the IRS.

Social welfare nonprofits don't have to be recognized by the IRS, because donations to them are not tax-deductible. They just have to incorporate as social welfare nonprofits in their state of choice.

Conservative groups typically have applied for recognition anyway, possibly because their donors want the IRS seal of approval.

One of the most active liberal dark money groups, Patriot Majority USA, has been recognized by the IRS. But other liberal groups have taken advantage of the loophole. Often, they incorporate, never apply to the IRS, spend money on elections and then fold after filing a tax return or two.

The newly released documents show that one of the most prominent liberal dark money groups, Priorities USA, never applied to the IRS for recognition.

Liberal dark money groups have been much less active in elections than conservative ones since the Citizens United decision. About 85 percent of the anonymous money spent in 2010 and 2012 came from conservative groups. Priorities USA, despite being run by top liberal operatives, reported spending nothing on federal elections in 2012.

Lerner may have considered applying to work at a leading liberal social welfare nonprofit.


On Jan. 24, 2013, she emailed two senior IRS officials, asking if Organizing for Action — the nonprofit formed from the leftovers of President Barack Obama's campaign organization — had applied for IRS recognition.

One of the officials, Holly Paz, told Lerner she wasn't sure.

Another IRS official, Sharon Light, said she thought it likely that OFA would follow Priorities USA's path and not apply. "But maybe not," she added. She noted that while OFA would be run from Chicago, it would also have a Washington office.

"Oh — maybe I can get the DC office job!" Lerner emailed back.

It is unclear whether she was joking.

no stress

no stress

I get sick of reading about it. Both parties when in office prove time and again that the Federal government is above the law. Elected officials are judged and charged according to a different standard than the rest of us. It will never change while corrupt politicians investigate corrupt politicians.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Gunz wrote:I get sick of reading about it.  Both parties when in office prove time and again that the Federal government is above the law.   Elected officials are judged and charged according to a different standard than the rest of us.  It will never change while corrupt politicians investigate corrupt politicians.


Well said, Gunz.

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knothead

knothead

It seems preposterous that any of these type groups whether they are left or right should qualify for tax exempt status . . . . . primarily social benefits to the community? That is a joke to say the least . . .

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Obviously, what our Titanium-brained member is really saying, is that it's okay for right-wing political groups to lie to the IRS that they're really non-profit non-political organizations, in order to get lower tax rates, but it's not okay for the government to investigate and, if necessary, prosecute or penalize them for lying.

We get it.

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Gunz wrote:I get sick of reading about it.  Both parties when in office prove time and again that the Federal government is above the law.   Elected officials are judged and charged according to a different standard than the rest of us.  It will never change while corrupt politicians investigate corrupt politicians.

Well said, Gunz.

So in your opinion, the solution is to let it ride when the most powerful arm of government abuses its power?

Brilliant!

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Gunz wrote:I get sick of reading about it.  Both parties when in office prove time and again that the Federal government is above the law.   Elected officials are judged and charged according to a different standard than the rest of us.  It will never change while corrupt politicians investigate corrupt politicians.

Well said, Gunz.

So in your opinion, the solution is to let it ride when the most powerful arm of government abuses its power?

Brilliant!

I don't know, Herr Markle, it only seems fair when one of the two dominant political parties in the U.S. has organizations that lie to the IRS in order to defray paying taxes. And here's a big secret booby: Pssssssst ... the government is crooked, and so are all your comrades.

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by Gunz Today at 4:56 pm
I get sick of reading about it. Both parties when in office prove time and again that the Federal government is above the law. Elected officials are judged and charged according to a different standard than the rest of us. It will never change while corrupt politicians investigate corrupt politicians--------
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But the clowns in office on the Dem side went overboard when taking the WH and Congress. Laws and abuses occurred that nothing compares to in the last 5 years and 3 months.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:Obviously, what our Titanium-brained member is really saying, is that it's okay for right-wing political groups to lie to the IRS that they're really non-profit non-political organizations, in order to get lower tax rates, but it's not okay for the government to investigate and, if necessary, prosecute or penalize them for lying.

We get it.  

Then why are they not investigating the Progressive organizations? Or is it okay for them to lie?

Who said the Conservative organizations were lying?

Right, it's okay for Progressives to lie because, to you and your comrades, the end justifies the means.

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Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Gunz wrote:I get sick of reading about it.  Both parties when in office prove time and again that the Federal government is above the law.   Elected officials are judged and charged according to a different standard than the rest of us.  It will never change while corrupt politicians investigate corrupt politicians.

Well said, Gunz.

So in your opinion, the solution is to let it ride when the most powerful arm of government abuses its power?

Brilliant!
If that were my opinion and if I thought that was the solution I would have stated so. Nice try at putting words in my mouth. Idiot

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

PACEDOG#1 wrote:by Gunz Today at 4:56 pm
I get sick of reading about it. Both parties when in office prove time and again that the Federal government is above the law. Elected officials are judged and charged according to a different standard than the rest of us. It will never change while corrupt politicians investigate corrupt politicians--------
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But the clowns in office on the Dem side went overboard when taking the WH and Congress. Laws and abuses occurred that nothing compares to in the last 5 years and 3 months.

What to do about this corruption in the whitehouse regarding the IRS Bs10

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Obviously, what our Titanium-brained member is really saying, is that it's okay for right-wing political groups to lie to the IRS that they're really non-profit non-political organizations, in order to get lower tax rates, but it's not okay for the government to investigate and, if necessary, prosecute or penalize them for lying.

We get it.  

Then why are they not investigating the Progressive organizations?  Or is it okay for them to lie?

Who said the Conservative organizations were lying?

Right, it's okay for Progressives to lie because, to you and your comrades, the end justifies the means.

Please list the "progressive" organizations who lied to the IRS ...

Gotcha.

no stress

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Its threads like these where we see if a persons allegiance is to political party or country. These abuses happen on everyones watch and they get media coverage for a few months and people blame either political party but in the end the corrupt politicians sleep warmly in their beds at night and get up in the morning and laugh all the way to the bank.

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Americans United for Change enjoys 501(c)4 (soros)
The Ruckus Society 501(c)3 (occupy movement)
Women's Action for New Direction 501(c)4 (soros)
New World Foundation 501(c)3
Fierce 501(c)3 (alinski)
CAIR 501(c)3
North American Islamic Trust 501(c)3
Barack H Obama Foundation 501(c)3
Media Matters For America 501(c)3 (soros)
Center for American Progress  501(c)3 (soros)
Democratic Socialists of America 501(c)3
Center For Progressive Leadership 501(c)3 (soros)
Progressive Majority 501(c)3
American Bridge 501(c)4
People Before Profits 501(c)4
Color Of Change 501(c)4
Progress Now 501(c)4
Organizing for Action (OFA) 501(c)4
The Southern Poverty Law Center  501(c)3
Priorities USA 501(c)4
MoveOn. org 501(c)4 (soros)
Act Blue 501(c)4
CodePink 501(c)3
Muslim Brotherhood 501(c)3
Socialist Party USA 501(c)3

And guess how long it took lois lerner to fast track this tax exempt status founded by obama's brother?

http://www.barackhobamafoundation.org/

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PkrBum wrote:Americans United for Change enjoys 501(c)4 (soros)
The Ruckus Society 501(c)3 (occupy movement)
Women's Action for New Direction 501(c)4 (soros)
New World Foundation 501(c)3
Fierce 501(c)3 (alinski)
CAIR 501(c)3
North American Islamic Trust 501(c)3
Barack H Obama Foundation 501(c)3
Media Matters For America 501(c)3 (soros)
Center for American Progress  501(c)3 (soros)
Democratic Socialists of America 501(c)3
Center For Progressive Leadership 501(c)3 (soros)
Progressive Majority 501(c)3
American Bridge 501(c)4
People Before Profits 501(c)4
Color Of Change 501(c)4
Progress Now 501(c)4
Organizing for Action (OFA) 501(c)4
The Southern Poverty Law Center  501(c)3
Priorities USA 501(c)4
MoveOn. org 501(c)4 (soros)
Act Blue 501(c)4
CodePink 501(c)3
Muslim Brotherhood 501(c)3
Socialist Party USA 501(c)3

And guess how long it took lois lerner to fast track this tax exempt status founded by obama's brother?

http://www.barackhobamafoundation.org/

I thought Muslim brotherhood was listed as a terrorist organization?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PACEDOG#1 wrote:by Gunz Today at 4:56 pm
I get sick of reading about it. Both parties when in office prove time and again that the Federal government is above the law. Elected officials are judged and charged according to a different standard than the rest of us. It will never change while corrupt politicians investigate corrupt politicians--------
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But the clowns in office on the Dem side went overboard when taking the WH and Congress. Laws and abuses occurred that nothing compares to in the last 5 years and 3 months.

Are you kidding? 2 wars, crashed economy, and you want to blame Obama? You're a sick man. Oh, and 9/11...false flag.

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Floridatexan wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:by Gunz Today at 4:56 pm
I get sick of reading about it. Both parties when in office prove time and again that the Federal government is above the law. Elected officials are judged and charged according to a different standard than the rest of us. It will never change while corrupt politicians investigate corrupt politicians--------
----------
But the clowns in office on the Dem side went overboard when taking the WH and Congress. Laws and abuses occurred that nothing compares to in the last 5 years and 3 months.

Are you kidding?  2 wars, crashed economy, and you want to blame Obama?  You're a sick man.  Oh, and 9/11...false flag.

oh no, FT's bushitis is flaring up again, hurry get a pill and a pot of water.

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Smile wrote:
PkrBum wrote:Americans United for Change enjoys 501(c)4 (soros)
The Ruckus Society 501(c)3 (occupy movement)
Women's Action for New Direction 501(c)4 (soros)
New World Foundation 501(c)3
Fierce 501(c)3 (alinski)
CAIR 501(c)3
North American Islamic Trust 501(c)3
Barack H Obama Foundation 501(c)3
Media Matters For America 501(c)3 (soros)
Center for American Progress  501(c)3 (soros)
Democratic Socialists of America 501(c)3
Center For Progressive Leadership 501(c)3 (soros)
Progressive Majority 501(c)3
American Bridge 501(c)4
People Before Profits 501(c)4
Color Of Change 501(c)4
Progress Now 501(c)4
Organizing for Action (OFA) 501(c)4
The Southern Poverty Law Center  501(c)3
Priorities USA 501(c)4
MoveOn. org 501(c)4 (soros)
Act Blue 501(c)4
CodePink 501(c)3
Muslim Brotherhood 501(c)3
Socialist Party USA 501(c)3

And guess how long it took lois lerner to fast track this tax exempt status founded by obama's brother?

http://www.barackhobamafoundation.org/

I thought Muslim brotherhood was listed as a terrorist organization?

In egypt and other countries that realize they are trying to take over nations... but not in the united states today.

Here we prop them up and send them billions of our tax dollars... while inviting them to our white house to kiss their ass.

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