Ukraine

Damaged Eagle wrote:

So there's a lot of protesters in the Ukraine who want to rejoin Russia. This could be the beginning of the end...

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB7gkcNx83M

  

Wordslinger wrote:The vote from our members on this issue is about even for the U.S. to stay out of the problem, and for the Ukrainians to decide the issue by an election.

Frankly, I really think that a nationwide poll posing the same questions as Damaged Eagle presented wouldn't vary more than a percent or two from our own response.

No doubt President Obama's advisers have also considered how America feels about this issue.  And that may be exactly what's behind Obama's careful threatening of sanctions, etc., instead of a "don't cross this line," approach --
the one that Pacedog, Markle and Crow no doubt favor.

The latter three, representing the hard right, think that acting tough is being tough.  They thought Bush in the flight suit on the carrier with the "mission accomplished" sign was the real thing.

The real thing we had under Bush was a willingness to waste billions of dollars and thousands of American lives in an un-winnable war.  A war where our occupying troops were, according to Cheney "going to be welcomed."  A war that would leave us in control of huge oil deposits.  A war that would express American military and diplomatic power.

In other words, when it comes to countries, acting tough instead of being tough, seldom works.

America isn't ready by any means to take on Russia over a squabble between Russia and the Ukraine.

It's time we acknowledge the truth -- we're not the man we once were.  

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:The vote from our members on this issue is about even for the U.S. to stay out of the problem, and for the Ukrainians to decide the issue by an election.

Frankly, I really think that a nationwide poll posing the same questions as Damaged Eagle presented wouldn't vary more than a percent or two from our own response.

No doubt President Obama's advisers have also considered how America feels about this issue.  And that may be exactly what's behind Obama's careful threatening of sanctions, etc., instead of a "don't cross this line," approach --
the one that Pacedog, Markle and Crow no doubt favor.

The latter three, representing the hard right, think that acting tough is being tough.  They thought Bush in the flight suit on the carrier with the "mission accomplished" sign was the real thing.

The real thing we had under Bush was a willingness to waste billions of dollars and thousands of American lives in an un-winnable war.  A war where our occupying troops were, according to Cheney "going to be welcomed."  A war that would leave us in control of huge oil deposits.  A war that would express American military and diplomatic power.

In other words, when it comes to countries, acting tough instead of being tough, seldom works.

America isn't ready by any means to take on Russia over a squabble between Russia and the Ukraine.

It's time we acknowledge the truth -- we're not the man we once were.  

Good post, Wordslinger.