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Firemen, truly amazing!

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2seaoat
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1Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Firemen, truly amazing! 4/2/2014, 9:29 pm

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

BOSTON -
In a show of devotion to their fallen brother and his wife, firefighters who worked with Lt. Edward Walsh dug through the rubble and ashes of the building in which he died to find his wedding ring.
The ring was not on Walsh's hand when his body, along with that of fellow firefighter Michael Kennedy, was removed from the building at 298 Beacon Street.
Photos:  Wake and funeral for Lt. Walsh | Watch report
Kristen Walsh, his wife, called the Boylston Street firehouse to ask those who worked with Walsh to try to find it.
A top-to-bottom search of the firehouse found nothing, leading his fellow firefighters to believe it had to have been lost in the fire and leading them to search the fire building.
"It was down in the basement.  It was all debris, fire debris.   It was all wet and matted together, there were six of us," said Patty Kenneally Donovan, the first woman appointed to the Boston Fire Department. "One started digging, another had a shovel, four of us had sifters and you just go through it slowly, scoop after scoop with your hands."
After 90 minutes searching through the debris, the ring was found by Kenneally Donovan.
"I finally saw a circle when I was sifting. I saw it and I picked it up," she said. "I started cleaning it off and I realized, 'Oh my gosh this is it.' I got the chills and I said, 'Oh my gosh I found it.'"
Kenneally Donovan and the other firefighters returned the ring to Kristen Walsh on the eve of her husband's funeral.
"She slipped it on her finger and she started crying.   We all gave her big hugs and that was it," she said.

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2Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/2/2014, 9:33 pm

2seaoat



Sadly, this had to be tough on these men. However, ten to one odds they were on duty.

3Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/2/2014, 9:41 pm

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

2seaoat wrote:Sadly, this had to be tough on these men.  However, ten to one odds they were on duty.

And your point?

4Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 9:21 am

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Seaoat, are you insinuating the motive behind the search for a wedding ring by fellow firemen was money?

At the request of a fallen fireman's wife, the fellow firemen went into the basement of a burned out building, got on their hands and knees to under take a task that would appear to be impossible. You think it was because they were on the clock?

Is crawling through the basement of a burned out building, sifting through wet ashes and debris, searching for a wedding ring part of the Boston Fire Department job discription?

Gosh darn it.... I thought they did it out of loyalty and honor of a fallen comrad.

Thankfully we have you to bust through the myth that people can be caring individuals.

5Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 10:56 am

Ghost Rider

Ghost Rider

2seaoat wrote:Sadly, this had to be tough on these men.  However, ten to one odds they were on duty.

On duty? Take Gunz as an example. When he does a SAR, it is on his own time and w/o any local comnensation. So I ask again, on their own time.

6Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 11:00 am

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Searching for a wedding ring......not a requirement on or off the clock. It was a personal act...a fellowship above all others.

7Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 8:49 pm

no stress

no stress

2seaoat wrote:Sadly, this had to be tough on these men.  However, ten to one odds they were on duty.
ding ding ding....new low for seaoat

8Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 9:03 pm

2seaoat



Nope, no new low. A simple recitation of the fact. I had a fire chief friend lose his job trying to get the keg of beer out of the station at a volunteer fire department, get people to show up for drills, get their certifications, and when they went after him, they said he did no understand the stresses of what firemen had to endure. I went to the meeting where he was getting the shaft, and it was guys like him who said that should not be on the public dime who get attacked, and so I get attacked stating the obvious.

Like equipment and people dressed like Easter bunnies on the public dime driving around town, and when somebody suggests that may not be the best use of public taxpayer dollars, they become the bad guy.....because they do not understand the sacrifices of those on the department.

By the way....he got the keg of beer out of the fire station and was named the state EMT of the year, but he no longer is the chief......he also reached for all time lows.

9Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 9:52 pm

Sal

Sal

They prolly thought they were looking for the remote control for the TV. 

10Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 9:55 pm

2seaoat



Always somebody trying to take the biggest dick honor........gotta say, you may have dethroned me for tonight. When will T return.....he pretty much owned the title.

11Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 10:08 pm

Sal

Sal

2seaoat wrote:Always somebody trying to take the biggest dick honor........gotta say, you may have dethroned me for tonight.  When will T return.....he pretty much owned the title.

Don't be deceived. 


I can retain the title as long as there are suckers who choose the challenge. 

12Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 10:30 pm

no stress

no stress

You are both equally despicable so no need to fight for that honor.

13Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 10:39 pm

2seaoat



You are both equally despicable so no need to fight for that honor.


Yep, it was despicable to make the comment that this search was done on the public dime...........like I wanted a fireman to die, my best man's father was blown away by a robbery in a bar while on duty, and he grew up in poverty because in those days public servants did not get paid, and now municipalities are near bankrupt with untenable concessions and pensions, and I make a most certain true comment and I am despicable. Sorry, I have too many friends who are fireman who I wish no harm, but this false idol worship has to stop, and the blank checks since 911 with equipment and salaries need to stop, and digging around in a burned out building for a wedding ring on the public dime has to stop......I have no problem if folks want to volunteer to look for it, but please explain how people off duty are going to get access to a restricted burned down building? Please take the holier than thou routine and apply it to Sal......he really needs your help.

14Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 10:50 pm

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

2seaoat wrote:You are both equally despicable so no need to fight for that honor.


Yep, it was despicable to make the comment that this search was done on the public dime...........like I wanted a fireman to die, my best man's father was blown away by a robbery in a bar while on duty, and he grew up in poverty because in those days public servants did not get paid, and now municipalities are near bankrupt with untenable concessions and pensions, and I make a most certain true comment and I am despicable.  Sorry, I have too many friends who are fireman who I wish no harm, but this false idol worship has to stop, and the blank checks since 911 with equipment and salaries need to stop, and digging around in a burned out building for a wedding ring on the public dime has to stop......I have no problem if folks want to volunteer to look for it, but please explain how people off duty are going to get access to a restricted burned down building?   Please take the holier than thou routine and apply it to Sal......he really needs your help.

For God sake Seaoat, get a grip. If they were on duty and got a call while looking for the ring, they would respond. If they were on duty and not looking for the ring they would be waiting on a call.

I admire the loyalty and brotherhood the firemen have for each other.

15Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 10:59 pm

no stress

no stress

2seaoat wrote:You are both equally despicable so no need to fight for that honor.


Yep, it was despicable to make the comment that this search was done on the public dime...........like I wanted a fireman to die, my best man's father was blown away by a robbery in a bar while on duty, and he grew up in poverty because in those days public servants did not get paid, and now municipalities are near bankrupt with untenable concessions and pensions, and I make a most certain true comment and I am despicable.  Sorry, I have too many friends who are fireman who I wish no harm, but this false idol worship has to stop, and the blank checks since 911 with equipment and salaries need to stop, and digging around in a burned out building for a wedding ring on the public dime has to stop......I have no problem if folks want to volunteer to look for it, but please explain how people off duty are going to get access to a restricted burned down building?   Please take the holier than thou routine and apply it to Sal......he really needs your help.
There is nothing "most certainly true" about your statement you fucking idiot! The majority of men and women that searched the rubble at the world trade center were on their own dime just as we do at every scene where we lose people! You sat beside a Goddamned volunteer chief so you know how every fire department in the U.S operates and damned if you wont give your convoluted opinion! And that idiot from Tampa that sits in his moms basement all day figuring out how to cheat on his wife can go fuck himself too. You two didn't have to voice your condescending opinions on whether these guys were being paid or not but you both have shown your true colors.

16Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 11:01 pm

2seaoat



I have a grip. Communities are laying people off to pay the salaries of police and fire pensions. I watch cop friends write tickets which will allow them to get four hours overtime knowing that they will have to go to a branch court......and if anyone tries to criticize the same, they need to get a grip. Sorry, is the person who lived in that house who got burned up any less important? Do we have fireman going on the public dime to look for a wedding ring when a mother and her three children die in a fire because no working smoke detector........no central monitoring.....no reverse 911, but plenty of pensions, personnel, and equipment, and I am a jerk. Sorry, I have been making this point for 10 years, and look at Detroit's bankruptcy and try to figure out what caused the same........I like being despicable. People have to care about all the people's safety, not featherbedding and hero worship. As I said in my original post the search had to be tough for his fellow firefighters, but my point was entirely misconstrued......this search should not have happened on the public dime, and your worship of this act is part of the problem. We cannot protect all the people, until we start making the citizens as important as the folks drawing a salary......public safety is out of fricking control, and Gunz and I have debated the same for years, and I make zero apologies for my positions, anymore than Billy Mitchell faced court martial for telling the truth.

17Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 11:06 pm

no stress

no stress

2seaoat wrote:I have a grip.  Communities are laying people off to pay the salaries of police and fire pensions.  I watch cop friends write tickets which will allow them to get four hours overtime knowing that they will have to go to a branch court......and if anyone tries to criticize the same, they need to get a grip.  Sorry, is the person who lived in that house who got burned up any less important?   Do we have fireman going on the public dime to look for a wedding ring when a mother and her three children die in a fire because no working smoke detector........no central monitoring.....no reverse 911, but plenty of pensions, personnel, and equipment, and I am a jerk.  Sorry, I have been making this point for 10 years, and look at Detroit's bankruptcy and try to figure out what caused the same........I like being despicable.   People have to care about all the people's safety, not featherbedding and hero worship.  As I said in my original post the search had to be tough for his fellow firefighters, but my point was entirely misconstrued......this search should not have happened on the public dime, and your worship of this act is part of the problem.  We cannot protect all the people, until we start making the citizens as important as the folks drawing a salary......public safety is out of fricking control, and Gunz and I have debated the same for years, and I make zero apologies for my positions, anymore than Billy Mitchell faced court martial for telling the truth.
  Simply clueless.   Virtually every fire department in this country will install a smoke detector in someones home free of charge.  All they have to do is call.    I've done it (off duty mind you) so many time til I've lost count.   You don't know jack shit about this subject.    I sat beside a dentist today, I guess I can do a root canal in the morning. I guess youre another one of those dumbasses that thinks that we cant do our job unless we have our butts planted at the station. newsflash idiot, they can leave the place where they were looking for the ring and go on a call. Your boring conversations of reverse 911 and the neighborhood of 70 years old fighting their own fires was laughable at best. You don't even have the slightest understanding of the training involved in going into a burning structure.

18Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/3/2014, 11:28 pm

2seaoat



I never claimed to know everything about the fire service, but I know that the 1899 model of firefighting is cost prohibitive and not working. However, every time I attended meetings when citizens were giving input, that is the exact response we got.....we do not know jack chit......sorry some of the people who were asking for reforms were fireman, and one friend who is now deceased had a building collapse on him during drills and lived the balance of his life with facial burns and no use for this hero worship and featherbedding. So sorry, I do not want fireman digging in ruins for wedding rings on the public dime, and I have argued for years that the fire service and police services should have overlapping training and deployments......and if you think they can respond from a basement, they can respond from a patrol car traveling through the community with cross training and fewer total public servants.....yep I don't know enough to keep supporting this broken model which is currently bankrupting cities with our jails filled up, people digging around for wedding rings, and pensions completely unable to be sustained.

19Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/4/2014, 10:50 am

Nekochan

Nekochan

I can only imagine how much this meant to his widow.
Sadly, so many firefighters have died recently.

20Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/4/2014, 3:54 pm

Sal

Sal

God forbid there be a fire in the kitchen of the firehouse.

"Someone has to go in and rescue that favorite chile recipe!!"

Heroes across the board.

21Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/4/2014, 3:58 pm

no stress

no stress

Sal wrote:God forbid there be a fire in the kitchen of the firehouse.

"Someone has to go in and rescue that favorite chile recipe!!"

Heroes across the board.
LOL, that has happened so many times. An engine company will get a call to go pick up some sorry sack of shit off the floor of his moms basement and they forget to turn the stove off. Damn that sux.

22Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/4/2014, 4:12 pm

Sal

Sal

Gunz wrote:
    LOL, that has happened so many times.   An engine company will get a call to go pick up some sorry sack of shit off the floor of his moms basement and they forget to turn the stove off.  Damn that sux.

I'm really just pullin' your string, Gunz.

I like firefighters for the most part.

In Louisville, I used to live right around the corner from a nineteenth century firehouse.

Cool place.

I would shoot basketball with the guys out back quite a bit.

Nice fellas.

That's pretty much what they did - shot basketball, cooked, washed the truck on Saturday mornings.

Then they got a SEGA, and I didn't see them anymore.

Last Christmas, when I was in Louisville, I went by there, and the place had been turned into a restaurant.

They serve a mean bowl of chile.

23Firemen, truly amazing! Empty Re: Firemen, truly amazing! 4/4/2014, 4:15 pm

no stress

no stress

Sal wrote:
Gunz wrote:
    LOL, that has happened so many times.   An engine company will get a call to go pick up some sorry sack of shit off the floor of his moms basement and they forget to turn the stove off.  Damn that sux.

I'm really just pullin' your string, Gunz.

I like firefighters for the most part.

In Louisville, I used to live right around the corner from a nineteenth century firehouse.

Cool place.

I would shoot basketball with the guys out back quite a bit.

Nice fellas.

That's pretty much what they did - shot basketball, cooked, washed the truck on Saturday mornings.

Then they got a SEGA, and I didn't see them anymore.

Last Christmas, when I was in Louisville, I went by there, and the place had been turned into a restaurant.

They serve a mean bowl of chile.
You'll never find a better bunch of guys than at a truckhouse.

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