The news reports that the U.S. is concerned that it might not get an agreement to leave American troops to fight in Afghanistan, because the candidates for the next presidency may not want our presence.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/27/world/asia/warlords-with-dark-pasts-battle-in-afghan-election.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20140227&_r=0
Someone please tell me why should the Afghans want our presence, and whether their wants have any bearing whatever on the issue.
The issue is -- We wanted to punish the Taliban who allowed al Qaeda to plan, train and plot the Twin-Tower disaster.
Check.
Most of the Afghans are not pro Taliban or al Qaeda -- neither of which could in fact exist unless the vast majority of Afghans cooperated ... which they do. The only thing all Afghans have in common is a hatred for outside invaders -- infidels, if you will.
While I know it's difficult if not impossible for our Presidents, State Department heads or Commanding Generals to actually confront and deal with the truth, the rest of us apparently have no problem understanding that all the Afghans are Afghan -- Muslims of a third world country with very low rates of education, and a disconnected economy. It is a country inhabited by tribes with ancient warring traditions, codes, beliefs.
It is a country that has warred for hundreds of centuries.
And its most hated enemies have been and are non-Muslim invaders from outside.
And our government pretends to wonder why we might not get the next president to allow us to stay?
If it smells, walks, and slimes like bullshit, it's bullshit.
The last half of the longest war in American history has had but one elusive purpose at the head of our things to do list. And that purpose was and is how to find an "honorable" way to get the hell out of Afghanistan which, we finally came to understand, was pretty much unconquerable, and absolutely not worth the effort.
Our failure in this regard has forced truly creative decisions -- the current one of which is to arrange a situation where we can honorably disengage (stop wasting money) in Afghanistan, because we certainly wouldn't stay in someone else's country if THEY DIDN'T REALLY WANT US THERE. Uh huh, yeah.
Getting this stupid legal/military agreement "in order to stay and fight the Taliban forever" is just about as real as the Tea Party professing it likes Blacks or Hispanics.
But why we really leave Afghanistan after losing a war there for more than a decade really doesn't matter. It's only how much time it takes for us to get out and stop paying that matters.
Reality!
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/27/world/asia/warlords-with-dark-pasts-battle-in-afghan-election.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20140227&_r=0
Someone please tell me why should the Afghans want our presence, and whether their wants have any bearing whatever on the issue.
The issue is -- We wanted to punish the Taliban who allowed al Qaeda to plan, train and plot the Twin-Tower disaster.
Check.
Most of the Afghans are not pro Taliban or al Qaeda -- neither of which could in fact exist unless the vast majority of Afghans cooperated ... which they do. The only thing all Afghans have in common is a hatred for outside invaders -- infidels, if you will.
While I know it's difficult if not impossible for our Presidents, State Department heads or Commanding Generals to actually confront and deal with the truth, the rest of us apparently have no problem understanding that all the Afghans are Afghan -- Muslims of a third world country with very low rates of education, and a disconnected economy. It is a country inhabited by tribes with ancient warring traditions, codes, beliefs.
It is a country that has warred for hundreds of centuries.
And its most hated enemies have been and are non-Muslim invaders from outside.
And our government pretends to wonder why we might not get the next president to allow us to stay?
If it smells, walks, and slimes like bullshit, it's bullshit.
The last half of the longest war in American history has had but one elusive purpose at the head of our things to do list. And that purpose was and is how to find an "honorable" way to get the hell out of Afghanistan which, we finally came to understand, was pretty much unconquerable, and absolutely not worth the effort.
Our failure in this regard has forced truly creative decisions -- the current one of which is to arrange a situation where we can honorably disengage (stop wasting money) in Afghanistan, because we certainly wouldn't stay in someone else's country if THEY DIDN'T REALLY WANT US THERE. Uh huh, yeah.
Getting this stupid legal/military agreement "in order to stay and fight the Taliban forever" is just about as real as the Tea Party professing it likes Blacks or Hispanics.
But why we really leave Afghanistan after losing a war there for more than a decade really doesn't matter. It's only how much time it takes for us to get out and stop paying that matters.
Reality!
Last edited by Wordslinger on 2/28/2014, 2:42 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Alex Trebeck phoned.)