Ladies and gentlemen of the PDF, you have all now been called for jury duty

Since we have votes of not guilty there will have to be a new trial or case thrown out. All convictions have to be unanimous.

Got this in an email.. thought of this bunch here..LOL.

Did you ask for a 6 person jury or a 12 person jury? It appears you voted at least once for acquittal and my guess is one of your socks did too, but sombody voted you not guilty, and there is about a 90% chance out of the jury pool that the person voting for acquittal would have been selected, so my guess that you would hang the jury, so the state probably would enter a plea.....just asking you to stay off the theater property and 80 hours of community service picking up trash at maritime park.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Got this in an email.. thought of this bunch here..LOL.

This is f'ing perfect........I just had lunch in Everglade City and all these old hoots were coming in with their rock and roll t shirts.......my friend I am staying with was an avid golfer who is 72 and it is so sad to see his physical ailments and how rapidly he has aged this last year........young at heart, but the vehicle which brought us to the party has seen better days. We are going to a rock and roll dinner dance tonight with 60 and 70s music, and I am being polite going but I am more comfortable around young people......the guy upstairs does have a sense of humor......he excites us in our youth with the joy of strength, sex, and rock and roll and then laughs when we get older......as these old farts are rocking.......and not much rolling.

2seaoat wrote: It appears you voted at least once for acquittal and my guess is one of your socks did too.

I don't have a sock.  I tried to register as "david j. baloney" but my registration was refused.
So two of the not guilty votes are actual registrants other than myself.

Ichi's post reminds me of a question I wanted to ask in the first movie thread.
The one where bds explained how to use P2P to get movies.

This is what wiki says about what happened to Napster...

In 2000, the American musical recording company A&M Records along with several other recording companies, through the RIAA, sued Napster (A&M Records, Inc. v. Napster, Inc.) on account of contributory and vicarious copyright infringement under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).[20] Napster was faced with the following allegations from the music industry:

That its users were directly violating the plaintiffs' copyrights.
That Napster was responsible for contributory infringement of the plaintiffs' copyrights.
That Napster was responsible for vicarious infringement of the plaintiffs' copyrights.

Initially Napster lost the case in the District Court but then appealed to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. Although it was clear that Napster could potentially have commercially significant non-infringing uses, the Ninth Circuit upheld the District Court's decision. Immediately after, the District Court commanded Napster to keep track of the activities of its network and to restrict access to infringing material when informed of that material's location. Napster wasn't able to comply and thus had to close down its service in July 2001. The following year, in 2002, Napster finally announced itself bankrupt and sold its assets to a third party. It had already been offline since the previous year owing to the effect of the court rulings

So my question is, why hasn't the same thing happened to P2P sites which are delivering movies in violation of copyright?

Some are, but the cat is out of the bag

Pirate Bay Team Sentenced to Jail
:
A Swedish court has found the four men behind file-sharing site The Pirate Bay guilty of infringing copyright law, sentencing them to a year each in jail and ordering them to pay £3 million ($4.5 million) in damages to 17 entertainment companies including Warner Bros, Sony […]

A Swedish court has found the four men behind file-sharing site The Pirate Bay guilty of infringing copyright law, sentencing them to a year each in jail and ordering them to pay £3 million ($4.5 million) in damages to 17 entertainment companies including Warner Bros, Sony Music Entertainment, EMI and Columbia Pictures. The media companies had been seeking $17.5 million.

Despite the verdict, The Pirate Bay remains open for business — that is, the non-commercial business of pointing users to content, but not hosting it, which its lawyers contend is legal. Though entertainment companies are cheering the victory, it doesn’t seem like it will have any direct effect on the more than 20 million people who use The Pirate Bay.

The folks behind The Pirate Bay — founders Gottfrid Svartholm Warg and Fredrik Neij, spokesman and programmer Peter Lunde, and funder Carl Lundström — were hardly stony-faced about being convicted, and said they would appeal and don’t plan to pay the fine. Here’s an archive video of this morning’s exceedingly casual press conference, and The Pirate Bay’s Peter Sunde as quoted by the BBC:

“It’s so bizarre that we were convicted at all and it’s even more bizarre that we were [convicted] as a team. The court said we were organised. I can’t get Gottfrid out of bed in the morning. If you’re going to convict us, convict us of disorganised crime.
“We can’t pay and we wouldn’t pay. Even if I had the money I would rather burn everything I owned, and I wouldn’t even give them the ashes.”
For background on the proceedings, see our pieces The Definitive Primer to the Pirate Bay Trial and So What’s Really Going on With That Pirate Bay Trial?.

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Interesting, Ichi.

So they've shut down a few torrent sites. But bds and 150 million other subscribers are still using uTorrent to download copyrighted movies for free.

I found this...

Technically uTorrent doesn’t host any files, but there are more than 150 million registered uTorrent users, most of whom regularly download content illegally

http://musictechpolicy.wordpress.com/2013/10/15/bittorrent-profits-from-piracy-by-serving-ads-to-utorrent-client/

But bds and 150 million and one.  LOL  The Browser "Torch "  Has a built in torrent icon/app to expedite downloads.  Not that I use it, just sayin

It speaks to character or lack thereof.

Variations of this are numerous.  But the meaning is the same and something Bob, and a few others, chose to ignore.

I have the first part of this quote framed in my office and frequently print up on nice parchment or similar paper for all the attendants at my seminars and lectures.

Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught.
J. C. Watts
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/j_c_watts.html#w14MWIdCRj3LU3r9.99

Bob has proudly stated that he believes cheating an honest business is a fun and exciting pastime.  That's sad.  Bob is saying he is happy to have others pay is way.  No surprise.

Markle,

You forgot to call me a progressive liberal in that post. Are you slipping? lol

Bob wrote:I have to say this.  Even though so many voted agin me,  it does make me feel good that so many members of this forum have this uncompromising conviction against anything that can be defined as stealing.  
It would be a better world if everyone was like you.

Most are....

I think you're guilty of not paying for the movie but not guilty for bringing in your own coke. Patrons who pay to see a movie should not have to be forced to buy the snacks or be thirsty. A split verdict.

I think you're guilty of not paying for the movie but not guilty for bringing in your own coke. Patrons who pay to see a movie should not have to be forced to buy the snacks or be thirsty. A split verdict.

Perhaps if there was no signage, but most restaurants have a corking fee for the bottle of wine you bring in for your meal, and the folks who I am with now fish, and bring their CLEANED fish into the restaurant and they prepare it and still charge them near full price with the sides and salad bar.  With signage Bob was wrong, without signage he was just cheap, but sneaking into the movie and stealing........summary execution.

I voted that you're innocent.

It was most likely a Republican conspiracy that made you do it... Just ask FT.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2KRpRMSu4g