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NSA Citizen Spying Program Protected Us From NO Terrorist Attacks

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http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/20/21975158-nsa-program-stopped-no-terror-attacks-says-white-house-panel-member

" A member of the White House review panel on NSA surveillance said he was “absolutely” surprised when he discovered the agency’s lack of evidence that the bulk collection of telephone call records had thwarted any terrorist attacks.

“It was, ‘Huh, hello? What are we doing here?’” said Geoffrey Stone, a University of Chicago law professor, in an interview with NBC News. “The results were very thin.”

While Stone said the mass collection of telephone call records was a “logical program” from the NSA’s perspective, one question the White House panel was seeking to answer was whether it had actually stopped “any [terror attacks] that might have been really big.”

“We found none,” said Stone."

The same for the TSA violations of our persons and everything we know of from the patriot act and the NDAA.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Yes but it sure turns up a lot of information to use for blackmail...might even find out something on a standing supreme court justice and force him to back a dunderheaded program that has no standing in law, say like Obamacare...

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I don't know if you caught this in his speech... but he floated having the communication corporations store the data. Lol... as if that solves the privacy violations. Its just another example of the corrupt collusion between govt and corps... we still lose.

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-78634678/

"Among the review panel's 46 recommendations,one —that telecommunications companies,rather than the government,store the records of phone calls —appears to have a strong likelihood of being adopted.

Such a change might head off "potential abuse down the road," Obama said,and could address public concerns.

Intelligence officials have indicated that they could live with that change. "We're the ones who have been pushing" for it,said a senior intelligence official who has been privy to discussions about the recommendations,noting that NSA Director Keith Alexander "has testified all along that we would be fine with it."

In order for the phone companies to keep the data,Congress would have to pass legislation requiring them to do so,the official said,and a way would have to be found to standardize and combine the data for easy searching. A far more controversial issue is whether to impose new restrictions on how freely NSA analysts can search the data. The review panel has recommended that the agency be required to get judicial approval for each search,something intelligence officials strongly oppose."



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http://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/get-involved/constitution-activities/fourth-amendment.aspx

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

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