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TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

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This week we learned that a young man named LeBron James will be earning (and I use the word earning euphemistically) $90 million dollars soon. Why, you ask? Is it because he discovered a cure for cancer? No. Because he invented a new source of energy, saved a country from starvation, wrote the great American novel, changed our political vision? No. He will be making this money to play a game. Yes, I said a game. A silly, pointless and childish game.

....All across the country today, in fact in my very home, we are learning that favorite school teachers are being laid off because of the over spending injudiciously perpetrated by our states within our school systems. Yet this youngster is being paid $90 million to play a game? He is entrusted with nothing other than creating a little sweat and throwing an inflated hunk of rubber into a hanging net. And people who are responsible for teaching our children are being told they are not needed or their salaries are beyond the budget.

2seaoat



Sorry T you can find no pleasure. For the rest of us who have played and enjoy sports, watching our favorite team is normal behavior. People vote with their dollars.........and you do not like the election results, and your envy for those who have enjoyed success is understandable because we would all rather reward a new cure for cancer, but then our heads say one thing and our hearts another.......so yep....people enjoy sports, and yes there should be a cure for cancer.

Guest


Guest

The entire maddest with sports is insane. We live in one of the poorest Metro areas in Florida with rampant failing schools, high crime and poverty yet we have a Multi million dollar stadium selling 8 dollar beers and 30 dollar sandwiches,  Yes, Mr Oars, People vote with their dollars...



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2seaoat



I am happy today because of the vicarious lift I received last night watching the Bears pulverize an overrated Dallas team. It is much like the feeling I have watching an inspiring film or play. That warm feeling of satisfaction after finishing a great book, or canoeing down a pristine stream and seeing the sun reflect against the water. Life is filled with wonderment. Man's skills displayed on the field of competition are just one more wonderment to share and enjoy. If stamp collecting was so popular that people would vote with their dollars and build a stadium to watch folks carefully arrange their stamps......but people at an instinctual level understand.......sport is celebrated and stamp collecting not so much.

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What was Franklin D Franklin D Roosevels Hobby? LOL

2seaoat



President Roosevelt was an only child born into privilege. He never excelled in sports, and was stricken by polio. He was educated by tutors and a governance until he was 14, however he was active in his school newspaper and was a c student, but his passion in competition was politics. I guess to answer your question....his passion and hobby was politics.

Markle

Markle

Mr Ichi wrote:The entire maddest with sports is insane. We live in one of the poorest Metro areas in Florida with rampant failing schools, high crime and poverty yet we have a Multi million dollar stadium selling 8 dollar beers and 30 dollar sandwiches,  Yes, Mr Oars, People vote with their dollars...
How much does the stadium pay in taxes?  Now add the taxes on  those eight dollar beers and 30 dollar sandwiches.  Who prepare and sell them to the fans?  Where do the athletes who bring in all those fans live?  Do they hire anyone?  Take care of their house, mow their lawns, buy things on which they pay taxes?

Markle

Markle

TEOTWAWKI wrote:http://www.publiusforum.com/oldopeds/hustonsports.html

This week we learned that a young man named LeBron James will be earning (and I use the word earning euphemistically) $90 million dollars soon. Why, you ask? Is it because he discovered a cure for cancer? No. Because he invented a new source of energy, saved a country from starvation, wrote the great American novel, changed our political vision? No. He will be making this money to play a game. Yes, I said a game. A silly, pointless and childish game.

....All across the country today, in fact in my very home, we are learning that favorite school teachers are being laid off because of the over spending injudiciously perpetrated by our states within our school systems. Yet this youngster is being paid $90 million to play a game? He is entrusted with nothing other than creating a little sweat and throwing an inflated hunk of rubber into a hanging net. And people who are responsible for teaching our children are being told they are not needed or their salaries are beyond the budget.

Woke up on the wrong side of the bed just angry at everyone aren't you.

People are paid exactly what they are worth.  Well, except for those who earn minimum wage and in those cases, they earn more than they're worth. 

Millions of people can be teachers.  That is proven by the fact we have millions of teachers and the School of Education is the easiest one to get into at any campus.


IF you could do what LeBron James does, you too would be EARNING $90 million.  You can't, so you don't.

Guest


Guest

If stamp collecting was so popular that people would vote with their dollars and build a stadium to watch folks carefully arrange their stamps Yep then they might wind up like this poor guy.

Professional sports: The real opiate of the masses 1d_FDR-05



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Markle wrote:
Mr Ichi wrote:The entire maddest with sports is insane. We live in one of the poorest Metro areas in Florida with rampant failing schools, high crime and poverty yet we have a Multi million dollar stadium selling 8 dollar beers and 30 dollar sandwiches,  Yes, Mr Oars, People vote with their dollars...
How much does the stadium pay in taxes?  Now add the taxes on  those eight dollar beers and 30 dollar sandwiches.  Who prepare and sell them to the fans?  Where do the athletes who bring in all those fans live?  Do they hire anyone?  Take care of their house, mow their lawns, buy things on which they pay taxes?

They pay enough that he city only had to subsidize them 170,000 this year. Or as Mark Taylor(CMPA Member) said only 48 cents for every fan

Sal

Sal

Mr Ichi wrote: If stamp collecting was so popular that people would vote with their dollars and build a stadium to watch folks carefully arrange their stamps   Yep then they might wind up like this poor guy.

Professional sports: The real opiate of the masses 1d_FDR-05

FDR was not alone.

Stamp collecting was big business in the 50s, 60s, and into the early 70s.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Markle wrote:
Mr Ichi wrote:The entire maddest with sports is insane. We live in one of the poorest Metro areas in Florida with rampant failing schools, high crime and poverty yet we have a Multi million dollar stadium selling 8 dollar beers and 30 dollar sandwiches,  Yes, Mr Oars, People vote with their dollars...
How much does the stadium pay in taxes?  Now add the taxes on  those eight dollar beers and 30 dollar sandwiches.  Who prepare and sell them to the fans?  Where do the athletes who bring in all those fans live?  Do they hire anyone?  Take care of their house, mow their lawns, buy things on which they pay taxes?


Markle the players for our minor league team do not make enough money to buy or rent houses. Most of the players live with host families. Studer gets the concession monies and he got a special deal on taxes. Most employment at the park is part-time seasonal. The stadium is relatively small...it has seating for just over 5 thousand and some additional grass sitting for general admission. Most of the seats belong to season ticket holders, private citizens and corporate.

Guest


Guest

From a blog that raises some interesting points. Same title as Teos



Professional Sports: The Opiate of the Masses
October 17, 2012 By Greg 55 Comments



Professional Sports: The Opiate of the MassesI have to admit, I was once a huge sports fan. Growing up, my family planned our lives around the sporting events in which we were taking part. As I moved on to college, I participated in college sports for a while. Later, I planned my weekends around watching football. Since one of my best friends had season tickets to football and basketball, I was lucky enough to be able to attend a lot of these games. I was even luckier that my favorite teams all happened to be really good during this period of time. It was a lot of fun.

My friends and I lived and breathed for these weekends. Not only did we get all dressed up to go to the games, we also spent hundreds of dollars buying food and drinks while we were there. Furthermore, we invested ourselves emotional into the outcomes. If my team lost, I would often find myself in a really bad mood for a few days. I began to realize that my obsession with sports – especially football – probably wasn’t very healthy.

After I met Holly, my relationship with professional sports changed. First of all, I had moved away from my childhood home. As such, it had become increasingly difficult to be able to find my favorite teams playing on television. Furthermore, my priorities were slowly changing as I grew older. No longer, did I find it necessary to devote an entire day of the week – plus Monday night – to watching football. Also, Holly has never been much of a sports fan. As we began to spend more time together, I no longer had anybody to watch the games with anyway.

I have to confess that, at this point in my life, I really couldn’t care less about professional sports. (Ah, that felt good!) Go ahead, take my man card away from me. Excommunicate me from the cool kids club. I don’t really mind. It took a long time for me to realize this, and it took even longer for me to admit it to myself. Yet, the fact remains that I just don’t care about professional sports anymore. In fact, I think that they have become a detriment to our society. Here is why.


Professional Sports are a Waste of Money

Let’s face it: professional sports are a giant waste of money. Last year, Americans spent $25.4 billion dollars on professional sports. That is a staggering amount of money to spend on anything, much less to spend it to watch overgrown men playing children’s games. This amount doesn’t even include taxpayer money spent on stadiums.

Professional sports apologists will say that the teams bring recognition to the town. They provide the city with huge tax revenues. I say that is mostly malarkey. Our city spent close to $1 billion on a new football stadium – and it was completely taxpayer-funded. Estimates say that the tax revenue should pay for the stadium in…oh…about 30 years…just in time for the team to want another new stadium. Even more disgraceful is that the city cut police officers and funding for education at the same time the stadium was built. Now, that is fiscal responsibility at its finest!

Look, I still wear the baseball cap of my favorite team. I even have a few shirts that were given to me sporting my favorite team’s logos. Still, I’ll never understand why we are willing to spend so much of our hard-earned dollars to buy overpriced clothing and tickets simply so that we can feel like we belong to this corporately contrived group. With the amount of debt that Americans face and the trouble that many are having making ends meet on a day-to-day basis, spending this much money on professional sports is a travesty. We have our financial priorities way out of whack.


Professional Sports are a Waste of Time

Watching professional sports is an utter waste of time. Look, I know that professional sports are entertainment. They are like an interactive soap opera for adults – males especially. Yet, most entertainment does not require our utter devotion and attention for days on end.

I’m not even that concerned about people who spend 3 hours watching their favorite team play once a week. However, for many, professional sports have become an obsession. When you are spending your entire weekend – plus Monday and Thursday nights – watching a game, you may have a problem. Add to that all of the time that people spend researching their favorite players and teams, setting their fantasy lineups, and listening to sports talk radio and you have a giant amount of time being wasted on professional sports.

Why not use that time more wisely? Spend it with your family or be productive. If we spent as much time and energy on things that bear real life weight instead of wasting it on professional sports, we could really make a difference in people’s lives – including our own.


Professional Sports Distract from What is Really Important

It is kind of sad, really. As humans, we desparately want to belong to something successful and important. Professional sports provide people with that opportunity, although it is a false sense of belonging and importance. The marketing geniuses working for these giant businesses have created communities around their games. They’ve convinced masses of people that their participation in these communities is a must for the communities “success.” They tell the fans – which, by the way, is short for “fanatic” – that the team can’t do it without them. In fact, they make people feel as if the team’s success is somehow a personal success of their own.

The truth is that participation from fans has very little to do with the team’s prospects for success. Sure, crowd noise in the stadium may affect the outcome of a particular play or game. However, your participation from home means nothing. Your “I’ve gotta support the team attitude” doesn’t make a hill of beans difference. What it does do is convince you to spend more money on crap, lining the pockets of the owners and athletes.

Professional sports provides people with an escape from reality. It blinds them to the real issues of the world - issues like politics, taxes, and world events that actually do affect their lives directly and should matter to them. Professional sports have become an opiate to the masses, allowing large numbers of us to be more easily fleeced.



Don’t get me wrong. I still enjoy watching the occasional game. I still cheer for my favorite professional sports teams. However, while it may have taken years to do so, I have finally broken through the mind-numbing fog in which professional sports had me enveloped. I have finally put them in their proper perspective as it relates to my real life. I have ended my obsession and have used my new-found time and money to better my life and the life of my family. I just hope more people can realize what I have before their lives – and their coin – slip away

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

Mr Ichi wrote:From a blog that raises some interesting points.  Same title as Teos

   

Professional Sports: The Opiate of the Masses
October 17, 2012 By Greg 55 Comments



Professional Sports: The Opiate of the MassesI have to admit, I was once a huge sports fan. Growing up, my family planned our lives around the sporting events in which we were taking part. As I moved on to college, I participated in college sports for a while. Later, I planned my weekends around watching football. Since one of my best friends had season tickets to football and basketball, I was lucky enough to be able to attend a lot of these games. I was even luckier that my favorite teams all happened to be really good during this period of time. It was a lot of fun.

My friends and I lived and breathed for these weekends. Not only did we get all dressed up to go to the games, we also spent hundreds of dollars buying food and drinks while we were there. Furthermore, we invested ourselves emotional into the outcomes. If my team lost, I would often find myself in a really bad mood for a few days. I began to realize that my obsession with sports – especially football – probably wasn’t very healthy.

After I met Holly, my relationship with professional sports changed. First of all, I had moved away from my childhood home. As such, it had become increasingly difficult to be able to find my favorite teams playing on television. Furthermore, my priorities were slowly changing as I grew older. No longer, did I find it necessary to devote an entire day of the week – plus Monday night – to watching football. Also, Holly has never been much of  a sports fan. As we began to spend more time together, I no longer had anybody to watch the games with anyway.

I have to confess that, at this point in my life, I really couldn’t care less about professional sports. (Ah, that felt good!) Go ahead, take my man card away from me. Excommunicate me from the cool kids club. I don’t really mind. It took a long time for me to realize this, and it took even longer for me to admit it to myself. Yet, the fact remains that I just don’t care about professional sports anymore. In fact, I think that they have become a detriment to our society. Here is why.


Professional Sports are a Waste of Money

Let’s face it: professional sports are a giant waste of money. Last year, Americans spent $25.4 billion dollars on professional sports. That is a staggering amount of money to spend on anything, much less to spend it to watch overgrown men playing children’s games. This amount doesn’t even include taxpayer money spent on stadiums.

Professional sports apologists will say that the teams bring recognition to the town. They provide the city with huge tax revenues. I say that is mostly malarkey. Our city spent close to $1 billion on a new football stadium – and it was completely taxpayer-funded. Estimates say that the tax revenue should pay for the stadium in…oh…about 30 years…just in time for the team to want another new stadium. Even more disgraceful is that the city cut police officers and funding for education at the same time the stadium was built. Now, that is fiscal responsibility at its finest!

Look, I still wear the baseball cap of my favorite team. I even have a few shirts that were given to me sporting my favorite team’s logos. Still, I’ll never understand why we are willing to spend so much of our hard-earned dollars to buy overpriced clothing and tickets simply so that we can feel like we belong to this corporately contrived group.  With the amount of debt that Americans face and the trouble that many are having making ends meet on a day-to-day basis, spending this much money on professional sports is a travesty. We have our financial priorities way out of whack.


Professional Sports are a Waste of Time

Watching professional sports is an utter waste of time. Look, I know that professional sports are entertainment. They are like an interactive soap opera for adults – males especially. Yet, most entertainment does not require our utter devotion and attention for days on end.

I’m not even that concerned about people who spend 3 hours watching their favorite team play once a week. However, for many, professional sports have become an obsession. When you are spending your entire weekend – plus Monday and Thursday nights – watching a game, you may have a problem. Add to that all of the time that people spend researching their favorite players and teams, setting their fantasy lineups, and listening to sports talk radio and you have a giant amount of time being wasted on professional sports.

Why not use that time more wisely? Spend it with your family or be productive. If we spent as much time and energy on things that bear real life weight instead of wasting it on professional sports, we could really make a difference in people’s lives – including our own.


Professional Sports Distract from What is Really Important

It is kind of sad, really. As humans, we desparately want to belong to something successful and important. Professional sports provide people with that opportunity, although it is a false sense of belonging and importance. The marketing geniuses working for these giant businesses have created communities around their games. They’ve convinced masses of people that their participation in these communities is a must for the communities “success.” They tell the fans – which, by the way, is short for “fanatic” – that the team can’t do it without them. In fact, they make people feel as if the team’s success is somehow a personal success of their own.

The truth is that participation from fans has very little to do with the team’s prospects for success. Sure, crowd noise in the stadium may affect the outcome of a particular play or game. However, your participation from home means nothing. Your “I’ve gotta support the team attitude” doesn’t make a hill of beans difference. What it does do is convince you to spend more money on crap, lining the pockets of the owners and athletes.

Professional sports provides people with an escape from reality. It blinds them to the real issues of the world - issues like politics, taxes, and world events that actually do affect their lives directly and should matter to them. Professional sports have become an opiate to the masses, allowing large numbers of us to be more easily fleeced.



Don’t get me wrong. I still enjoy watching the occasional game. I still cheer for my favorite professional sports teams. However, while it may have taken years to do so, I have finally broken through the mind-numbing fog in which professional sports had me enveloped. I have finally put them in their proper perspective as it relates to my real life. I have ended my obsession and have used my new-found time and money to better my life and the life of my family. I just hope more people can realize what I have before their lives – and their coin – slip away

Thx Mr. Ichi..he said it well... cheers cheers cheers Basketball 

Markle

Markle

Mr Ichi wrote:
Markle wrote:
Mr Ichi wrote:The entire maddest with sports is insane. We live in one of the poorest Metro areas in Florida with rampant failing schools, high crime and poverty yet we have a Multi million dollar stadium selling 8 dollar beers and 30 dollar sandwiches,  Yes, Mr Oars, People vote with their dollars...
How much does the stadium pay in taxes?  Now add the taxes on  those eight dollar beers and 30 dollar sandwiches.  Who prepare and sell them to the fans?  Where do the athletes who bring in all those fans live?  Do they hire anyone?  Take care of their house, mow their lawns, buy things on which they pay taxes?

They  pay enough that he city only had to subsidize them 170,000 this year.  Or as Mark Taylor(CMPA Member) said only 48 cents for every fan

You seem to have had a few adult beverages already.

You failed to answer the questions.

How much does the stadium pay in taxes?  Now add the taxes on  those eight dollar beers and 30 dollar sandwiches.  Who prepare and sell them to the fans?  Where do the athletes who bring in all those fans live?  Do they hire anyone?  Take care of their house, mow their lawns, buy things on which they pay taxes?

Guest


Guest

Escambia Property Appraiser Chris Jones has good news and bad news for the cash-strapped Community Maritime Park Associates board.

The bad news: This year, he will send the CMPA board a property tax bill of about $130,000 on the $18 million stadium.

The good news: Of that, the board will only have to actually pay about $52,000, the portion of the taxes that go to the Escambia School District. The rest of the tax bill belongs to the city's Community Redevelopment Agency, which is also the CMPA board's financial backstop.

Studer is reported to have paid 350,000 in sales tax.  He makes the major moneys from the stadium.

Most employes make 8 dollars a hour for part time work
While there would be some spin off effect from their wages I dont it will greatly effect the economy of Pensacola.  Allmost all Blue Wahoo Players are not Pensacola residents..Their wages, as stated before,are low

I have  never seen  where Mr Studer posted the pay scale for his players but this is the leagues numbers
Triple-A – First year: $2,150/month, after first year no less than $2,150/month
•    Class AA – First year: $1,500/month, after first year no less than $1,500/month
•   Class A (full season) – First year: $1,050/month, after first year no less than $1,050/month
Remember they are only here for 5 months.

Considering the cost and expenses  of the CMPA park it seem not to  be a net gain for the community

Guest


Guest

Must be nice to know that while you are kicking back eating  nice food and drinking beer and lining the pockets of a millionaire, the players you are watching are making less that 400 a week for a part year job.

ia MLBTR) is about minor-leaguers from the Padres organization, but it could be about Pirates minor-leaguers or minor-leaguers from any organization. Basically, a lot of them -- the ones who don't get six- or seven-figure bonuses -- are currently working second jobs, because their salaries as baseball players are so paltry.

   [Cody Decker's] after-tax signing bonus as a 22nd-round Draft pick in 2009 certainly did, though.

   "Six hundred and thirty eight dollars," Decker said, slowly enunciating the terms of his bonus. "I was able to get a nice steak and that's about it." ...

   Baseball remains a seasonal job, where players are paid in-season. The pay isn't always great, especially for younger players. While the Major League minimum salary in 2012 was $480,000, the figure for first-year players, regardless of their organization, runs about $1,110 a month during the season.

Decker, who's in the upper minors now, is working as a hitting coach this offseason. The previous offseason, he worked as a bartender and bouncer. Another Padres minor-leaguer, Matt Chabot, currently works at Costco.

The massive discrepancy between the way major-leaguers and minor-leaguers live continues to amaze me. Of course there are plenty of minor-leaguers who can live well, at least for a while, on their bonuses, but the new CBA (which was negotiated by major-league players who don't have to worry about minor-league salaries anymore) reduces the number of big bonuses for amateurs. You can be a top-ten-round pick and still get a bonus of just a few thousand bucks if you don't have leverage to negotiate a bigger one. And there will continue to be a vast underclass of former late-round picks and low-profile Latin signings who make practically nothing, enduring endless bus rides to small towns, eating horrible food, and scrambling to find work in the offseason.

If nothing else, you'd think Major League Baseball would want to do more to protect its investments -- it must be difficult to eat healthy on a minor-league salary, and one would think that offseason training would be difficult for players who have little choice but to take minimum-wage jobs in their hometowns. Players who get tiny bonuses as amateurs don't often make the big leagues, but sometimes they do.

More broadly, though, there's no reason for minor-leaguers to live the way they do when there's so much money to go around.


In his book Out Of My League, Dirk Hayhurst describes his first season in the big leagues (which also took place in the Padres organization, although that's beside the point). One week, he's staying with two other players in a two-bedroom Portland apartment with no air conditioning; the next, he's staying in top-notch hotels and eating whatever he wants. He marvels that big-league players, who, after all, have been through the minor-league grind themselves, wouldn't find a way to pass down some tiny fraction of their wealth so that minor-leaguers can live reasonably.

But they don't, probably in part because of the culture of veteran worship in Major League Baseball. Veterans occupy privileged places in nearly aspect of major-league culture, and rookies (though their salaries are obviously awfully nice) are their subordinates. I'm sure the logic there, such as it is, plays a role in Major League Baseball's indifference to the lifestyles of future major-leaguers. Hayhurst also quotes a teammate telling him that if a player can't make his way through hardship in the minor leagues, he doesn't deserve to make big bucks in the majors. Whatever the reason, minor-league poverty is a strange, sad phenomenon.

Markle

Markle

Why would the players receive more than they do?  Is anyone forcing them to come to Pensacola to play baseball?

The green eyed envy of the Progressives is simply stunning.

Guest


Guest

Markle wrote:Why would the players receive more than they do?  Is anyone forcing them to come to Pensacola to play baseball?

The green eyed envy of the Progressives is simply stunning.

It will be a cold day in hell before I ever envy a Wahoo Player. But you are correct. If they want to work for nothing, then more power to them. They know what they are worth.

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

They all should get paid nothing for producing nuthin including the pros. They should play for the pure enjoyment of the game. I think that was the idea originally until it became the drug of choice for game junkies.

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