The Onion is not a news source. It is a comedy piece, satire, not true stuff, a joke.Joanimaroni wrote:The Onion quoted over 15,000....the other source I gave you was from the DOD. They listed over 23,000 being deployed.othershoe1030 wrote:The Persian Gulf is a region. Iraq is in the region but is not the entire region. Having troops on ships or neighboring countries is not the same as having them in Iraq.Joanimaroni wrote:I said, Clinton sent MORE than 15,000 troops. They were deployed to the Persian Gulf.othershoe1030 wrote:[color:7ef2=#3366cc]I think air strikes are air strikes. And just for entertainment I'll ask why we'd send even special troops into an area that we were bombing? Doesn't make sense. Maybe in 50 years or when someone leaks secret information we'll learn that there were 25 special forces troops on the ground during the air strikes but until then I'll just stick with "no troops on the ground".Joanimaroni wrote:http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=41766othershoe1030 wrote:The phrase "very special forces" was a tip off Joani. I think it is just possible that you are referring to this article?…by the ONION, LOL. The short transport plane! Too funny!!!!! Read the whole article. It is hilarious.Joanimaroni wrote:Over 15,000.othershoe1030 wrote:So, how many troops did Clinton send into Iraq, I forget?
President Clinton deployed more than 15,000 very special U.S. forces to the Persian Gulf region.
Clinton Deploys Very Special Forces To Iraq
NEWS • Politics • Middle East • Disabilities • Clinton Administration • ISSUE 35•02 • Jan 20, 1999
WASHINGTON, DC—Preparing for another possible showdown with Iraq, President Clinton deployed more than 15,000 very special U.S. forces to the Persian Gulf region Tuesday.
Sgt. Tommy Dolber, who loves baseball and rollerskating, leads a group of very special forces in maneuvers near the Iraq-Kuwait border.
Clinton said the objective of the mission, dubbed Operation Great Job!, is twofold: to keep pressure on Saddam Hussein to permit the return of U.N. weapons inspectors, and to provide America's very special forces with a positive, rewarding, esteem-building experience.
"With Operation Great Job!, we send the message loud and clear to Saddam Hussein that his open defiance of the United Nations and international law will not be tolerated," Clinton said. "We also send the equally important message to our own troops that what's important is not whether you defeat the enemy, but that you try your best and have fun."
Added Clinton: "Hooray, U.S. troops!"
Do you really think we conducted precision air strikes, including the tomahawk missile, in Iraq without special forces on the ground?
BTW where did you get that imaginary 15,000 number? Are you saying he sent in 15,000 troops and we just don't know about it?
You are absolutely correct regarding your military stategy question....... And just for entertainment I'll ask why we'd send even special troops into an area that we were bombing?.
Air strikes are never ever ever conducted with troops on the ground. The US never ever ever has intelligence teams gathering information in order to carry out precision air strikes........They just guess where the targets are.
So now you're saying Clinton sent MORE than 15,000 into the country of Iraq or are you trying to stretch that position by saying he had all those troops on ships nearby and that is the same thing as an invasion?
I think we have adequate surveillance from satellites to perform air strikes without units on the ground calling in air strikes but hey, I still want to know where that 15,000 number came from that you cited originally or don't you want to admit that you were fooled by an Onion article? Don't feel bad it wouldn't be the first time someone was fooled. They do a great job.
I appreciate you letting me know the difference between the Persian Gulf region and the country of Iraq.
Are you dening special intel troops were on the ground, in Iraq? If so, can you provide a link to prove your statement, unless of course you are just making an assumption?
I am unable to prove the presence of US troops on the ground in Iraq.
I guess I wasn't being clear enough? I say again, Iraq is not the same as the Gulf. Your DOD article states the troops were deployed to the Gulf. Can you show me where they set foot on Iraqi soil or are you just assuming they did so because of the threatening troop buildup?
More than 23,500 U.S. soldiers, sailors and Marines, along with 170 U.S. aircraft and 23 warships currently stand ready in the Gulf. Two days before Iraq backed down, Clinton deployed another 3,000 troops, an air expeditionary force with 84 combat and 45 support aircraft, more Patriot missile units, and a light infantry battalion to the region.