Photo of Joseph Goebbels frowning at photographer Alfred Eisenstaedt after finding out he’s Jewish

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I am proud to be an American. I support my government at the local, state, and national level. I believe in our constitution, and I work everyday to instill those principles in my life. PKR is a revisionist in history. He takes the exception and tries really really really hard to create a paradigm which comports with his exceptions. No, our government has been a beacon for the world. We are not flawless, and we certainly are not without fault, but our republic represents an ongoing experiment on how government can and does work. I have to date never gotten an adult response to what would replace what we have from PKR, and in his adulterated historical account of where governments have been , I am not to likely to find much of worth in the alternative.

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I like this one the best. Especially because the Louma Crane is so visible above them. For the non movie-obsessed that's what they call the camera crane.

 

http://a1b5jj.blogspot.com/2010/09/jonah-goldbergs-big-lie-about-liberal.html

Monday, September 27, 2010

Jonah Goldberg's Big Lie about Liberal Fascism
this guy has evidently made a career on spinning history to morons, yet another example of the poverty of the conservative intelligentsia

an amusing example of the Goebbels' Big Lie technique though, the more preposterous the lie the more often and the more forcefully it must be repeated, then all the sheeple take it as 'common sense'


http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/product-reviews/0385511841/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar



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Goldberg's Book:: a cynical Excercise in perfidious revisionism that would make Joeseph Goebbels proud, August 29, 2010
By Drdaystrum - See all my reviews

This review is from: Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning (Hardcover)
The Book "Liberal Fascism" would be funny if it were written in the context of a Monty Python comedy but unfortunately, Goldberg's book demonstrates the very essence of fascism itself by attempting to invert the meaning of a well known word in order to confuse and distort a well documented historical phenomena.

To equate Liberalism (from the latin word Liberalis which means "free man") with fascism is tantamount to calling someone a "communist-capitalist, or "Catholic-Jew" or confusing a dog for a dolphin or giraffe with a salamander. The two have nothing in common, and are diametrically opposed virtual "opposites'. History irrefutably shows that liberalism is the mortal enemy of totalitarianism whether it be fascism or communism. Liberal institutions, policies, ideas and individuals have been systematically attacked, persecuted and killed by fascist and communist regimes throughout the historical record.

Therefore it begs the question, if right-wing Republicans are anti-liberal, then they are by definition, "anti-liberty" and "anti-freedom". What does that tell you they are for? Do the math! Fascism is thoroughly documented with inconvertible facts throughout the historical record in all it grisly incarnations whether it be German, Italian, Spanish or American fascism. Fascism consistently operates under the guise of nationalistic jingoism and the pious guise of religious fundamentalism, when the opportunity to exploit religion presents itself. The current USA brand is successfully masking itself under the harmless cloak of apple pie, cookies, flag, guns and Jesus, and Fox News which is not news but Goebbels inspired 24 hour a day propaganda willfully designed to mislead and ensorcel the viewers. Very clever, and it works! In essence, Johna Goldberg is a paid propagandist for the true Oligarchical nucleus of American and maybe unwittingly, international "fascism". A word that the true fascist movement cleverly attempts to distort and twist so its unrecognizable and therefor allows them to continue their stealth operations under the sanitized, umbrella guise and grossly misleading term "conservative".

To call Limbaugh, Palin, O'Reilly or Beck conservative is tantamount to describing Charles Manson as a mischievous boy-scout or Hitler & Stalin, "activists". Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, Fox (fixed) News and their nefarious affiliates have one singular agenda: to continue their toxic metastases by applying the tried and true methodology of the infamous Nazi minister of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels "Big Lie" which simply repeats a simple theme and lie knowing that if the "lie is repeated often enough, the people will believe it". This is the true mantra of the right-wing and until we recognize it, expose it and defeat it, it will inevitably destroy the essence of American democracy and the "liberal" tenants that this country and constitution were built on. This book is in itself, a cynical, deliberate and contrived attempt to obfuscate the fact that the far right-wing sociopaths have ruthlessly hijacked the Republican party and have saturated their media disinformation industry with zealous assets who dispense pure calumny and lies on a 24/7 basis - all for the deliberate and malevolent purpose of subverting our precious democracy with true USA grade neofascism.

Rod Serling often depicted the horrors or a futuristic totalitarian regime that imprisoned, persecuted and murdered anyone who dared to dissent or critique the tyrants and these fictional regimes who used terror, scapegoating, thug style murder and torture were not based on the passive, anti-war liberal tenants that are the essential components of our own constitution and democracy but more accurately, the horrific brutality and virulence of the true Fascism such as the Nazi's or the Soviet style totalitarianism of the Stalin brand. Anyone who actually believes Goldberg's absurd, utterly pathetic attempt to rewrite the history and meaning of fascism just flunked the Rhesus Monkey IQ test.

The Nazis, unlike Goldberg's fantasy, were vicious, sadistic fanatics who were enthusiastically funded by huge corporations such as I. G. Farben, Flick, Krupp, Siemens, and many other organizations who, like Hitlers coterie, were not only virulently anti-liberal in every facet of their being (as also written in Mein Kampf), but were primarily about racial purification including (as seen in the most well preserved Nazi texts, documents and films) the obsession to exterminate whole racial and ethnic populations including Jews, liberals, communists, socialists (that's right, socialists), gypsy's, homosexuals, handicapped, deformed, and so called "inferior mongrel stock" such as Russians, Pols, Slavs in general and of course blacks or anything perceived as "non-Aryan". This is a characteristic that bears no remote resemblance to any tenant of liberalism or democracy. The SS Einsatzgruppen was assigned the specific task of murdering millions of Jews, or any "liberal" dissidents that were a threat to the Nazis. The Nazi dream was psychotic fantasy built on old Norse and Germanic mythology, the blond, blue eyed Aryan, vast armies, statues and the whole insane dream of Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, Reinhardt Heydrich, Hermann Goering, Hess, Martin Bormann and the entire grisly SS. Goldberg and his right-wing puppet masters have insidiously subverted our history and in fact, our dictionary. The fact that Hitlers Nazis merely had a word included in their general title that said "National Socialist" had nothing whats so ever to do with ACTUAL, literal socialism and was initially used to deceive and lure in unsuspecting new members. Hitler very quickly proceeded to sever any resemblance between true socialism and his Nazi fascist party. He simply exploited the term just as tyrannical kings or theocrats used pious religious dogma as an excuse to commit terror. Any credible documentation that was not written by Fox News or some delusional right-wing puppet clearly documents how the Nazi's arrested, imprisoned and killed hundreds of thousands of communists, socialists and of course liberals, Jews or anyone who opposed Fascist Nazism.

The rightwing will also absurdly site the pact with Stalin - are you kidding me? Hitler used Stalin to a point then proceeded to quickly brake the pact, betray Stalin and launch an all out attack on Russia. Apparently the right-wing zealots are hoping you will forget the massive Nazi assaults on Stalingrad, Moscow and a host of Russian cities that were burned to the ground. But again, propagandists like Rosenberg are designing these books for the clueless, uneducated or delusional ideologues. He is hoping his target audience will conveniently forget that liberalism and its ideas are the absolute inverse, and polar opposite of fascism and totalitarian communism or any of its deleterious surrogates. Its a fact as unassailable as the known properties of gravity and geophysics. Again, if you believe Goldberg's book, then you are likely less intelligent than a proto Australopithecus:-)


The fact that Goldberg has used this mendacious abortion of history that he has the unmitigated gall to present as a scholarly exegesis on fascism, demonstrates beyond any doubt, the extent of pure fabrication and lies the extreme right-wing are willing to sink to. To compare the Nazis to liberals is so astoundingly obscene, its almost too much for any sane mind to read without suffering from brain asphyxiation and permanent nausea. Next, Goldberg or Glenn (neuro-dysfunctional) Beck will write a book claiming that the Civil War was started by aliens from the Zeta Reticuli system to harvest Southern blood, WWII was commie conspiracy and our founding fathers were angels sent by Jesus to free the colonies from Satan worshiping European Druids.

Fascism is under cover, and its winning. The hour glass is running, its almost checkmate. As Rod Serling once said during his closing narration of a show about herd instinct, mass hysteria and scapegoating, "and the pity of this, is that it is not confined to the Twilight Zone".

Bob wrote:Interesting stuff,  Pkr.  And it's why we should never accept anything coming from government at face value.  We should always question any of it.
And yes that even includes the "libertarians" you admire.

Tell me you're not buying that garbage.

one of the casinos I like to play poker has a black and white of Sinatra, Martin, and lawford. It is stunning in its clarity and it captures an era. I have always enjoyed a beautiful crisp black and white photo. But what I learned in sixth grade when the teacher gave me the science experiments that the lens does not see things in black and white, it is the film which captures that image in the same. We have no film, and I am uncertain if I can capture an original photo with my camera in black and white, but I know I can convert a color image to black and white with my Adobe pro.

It's sad when y'all ignore direct quotes, deeds, actions, results... I guess it's a protection response. But to then call it revision is just insane. You can just call all this collectivist govt solution authoritarian shit unicornism for all I fucking care. Y'all are nutz.

you must be talking to something in your pockets.....we are fine.

Bob wrote:

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I like this one the best.  Especially because the Louma Crane is so visible above them.  For the non movie-obsessed that's what they call the camera crane.

 

Bob, this weird but if the guy on the far left is who I think it is I worked with him for about a year . . . . I think it is Richard Conte, if I am correct. The fellow cast members called him Richard Cunte behind his back . . . .

Golly, where's Herr Markel to defend the Nazis. And I note that teotwaki has also chosen to remain silent in this discussion . . .

As for the photo of Goebbels, that terrible frown is a giveaway -- its owner never enjoyed anything. He had the right ending.

Reality.

Wordslinger wrote:Golly, where's Herr Markel to defend the Nazis.  And I note that teotwaki has also chosen to remain silent in this discussion  . . .

As for the photo of Goebbels, that terrible frown is a giveaway -- its owner never enjoyed anything.  He had the right ending.

Reality.

Bite me dumbkoff...I dove in here like a Stuka and fixed all the problems...You must have missed my cute little Hitler dog....

knothead wrote:
Bob, this weird but if the guy on the far left is who I think it is I worked with him for about a year . . . . I think it is Richard Conte, if I am correct.  The fellow cast members called him Richard Cunte behind his back . . . .  

Yes that is absolutely Conte,  knothead.  But wait just a doggone minute.
Am I remembering you told us you worked inside the motion picture industry because I think I am.  Please please refresh my memory and tell us more.

I just looked and Conte died in 75, knothead. How far back do you go in the business.

I remember his story which was amazing. He worked location in Utah on one of the bibical movies in the early sixties as a young kid. He had a once in a lifetime experience. Sometimes those first jobs as kids frame our lives.