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payback is going to be a beeeeechhhhhh

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2seaoat



I tuned into a progressive radio station today where they had the host talking about how Democrats are actively discussing how they can vote to move government employment out of T Party representative districts where they have voted to shut down government. It is now being openly discussed. They are going to target certain districts with military bases, government processing centers, and other federal employers and once they have regained the majority, they are going to consolidate operations. The discussion I heard does not bode well for the Panhandle because they specifically mentioned military bases in Florida, Ms, and Alabama. The T Party is trying to destroy traditional middle of the road Republicans, but in that process there is going to be a blood bath in their home districts. The house divided is about to collapse.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Welcome back, Seaoat. How did your tournament go? I hope you won big. We somehow managed to carry on without you. That is not a dig.

I am feeling revitalized. I am about to become a grandmother for the second time. I am able to help my daughter with anything she needs and spent the whole day today doing just that...probably tomorrow, too. And I feel energized, I have to admit, that the President stood firm in the face of all the crap the Republicans threw his way...and in the face of many of our citizens. And I'm thinking that our half-black President has triumphed over the old Southern Strategy. Oh, well...back to the drawing table.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Someone needs to let Jeff Miller know that he is not invulnerable.

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2seaoat



Someone needs to let Jeff Miller know that he is not invulnerable.


In five years when his constituents have been destroyed because of economic collapse in local economies because of loss of government jobs, one might consider not burning down bridges as a political strategy......I always suspected that Obama in the Chicago way was going to make selective cuts, but now they are actively looking at those reps who voted against opening the government and taking an inventory of federal jobs. In the old days the glad handing and compromising kept your district safe from being sacked by a superior force, but now folks are going to isolated and eventually destroyed.

Nekochan

Nekochan

Lots of talk, I'm sure.  But talk is easier than action.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

I'm not sure I understand where you're going with this. To me it's just saying that people like Jeff Miller are history. I don't think he ever saw a Bush position that he didn't support. I never knew until recently that he was a co-sponsor of the bill authorizing the Iraq War. Now I despise him more than ever. And I'm thinking very seriously of becoming much more involved in local politics, because we can't afford any more Jeff Millers.

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2seaoat wrote:I tuned into a progressive radio station today where they had the host talking about how Democrats are actively discussing how they can vote to move government employment out of T Party representative districts where they have voted to shut down government.   It is now being openly discussed.   They are going to target certain districts with military bases, government processing centers, and other federal employers and once they have regained the majority, they are going to consolidate operations.   The discussion I heard does not bode well for the Panhandle because they specifically mentioned military bases in Florida, Ms, and Alabama.   The T Party is trying to destroy traditional middle of the road Republicans, but in that process there is going to be a blood bath in their home districts.  The house divided is about to collapse.
...and that means they are risking civil disobedience or worse....the jackasses think they have another mandate. So where do they think that they can move these jobs? Chicago where the schools suck so bad they are passing kids who cannot read or write? Yeah, want that group working on a former Whiting Field helicopter....not

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

The Whiting Field helicopter training will end up at Fort Rucker. That threat has been real since before I became a flight instructor with Helicopter Training Squadron Eight in 1981.

Miller is just a suck-up to the Tea Party/Frightwing Faction of the GOP. Name one piece of major legislation with his name at the top----I don't think there are any, and he has been in Congress since 2001.

Earl Hutto, another suck-up (a Democratic one), retired from Congress when he could not hold onto NADEP Pensacola. Watch Miller bolt if any of his military bases are consolidated.....

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ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Whiting Field helicopter training will end up at Fort Rucker. That threat has been real since before I became a flight instructor with Helicopter Training Squadron Eight in 1981.

Miller is just a suck-up to the Tea Party/Frightwing Faction of the GOP. Name one piece of major legislation with his name at the top----I don't think there are any, and he has been in Congress since 2001.

Earl Hutto, another suck-up (a Democratic one), retired from Congress when he could not hold onto NADEP Pensacola. Watch Miller bolt if any of his military bases are consolidated.....
Never happen. Navy, Marine, AF and Coastie helos need a body of water to practice over and it's cost prohibitive to fly from Rucker to the Gulf of Mexico to do the needed training according to the Stan/Evals that the prospective pilots have to fulfill. STFU and go live a Rucker if you think things are better there. As long as the majority of services are doing initial flight training as a JOINT operation, Rucker doesn't have a chance.

Nekochan

Nekochan

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Whiting Field helicopter training will end up at Fort Rucker. That threat has been real since before I became a flight instructor with Helicopter Training Squadron Eight in 1981.

Miller is just a suck-up to the Tea Party/Frightwing Faction of the GOP. Name one piece of major legislation with his name at the top----I don't think there are any, and he has been in Congress since 2001.

Earl Hutto, another suck-up (a Democratic one), retired from Congress when he could not hold onto NADEP Pensacola. Watch Miller bolt if any of his military bases are consolidated.....
Fort Rucker isn't exactly a center of liberalism either.

I think that Hutto made a deal about NADEP.   I always thought he might have made a deal to keep jobs in Fort Walton/Panama City at the expense of Pensacola.  Who knows, but wasn't he senior enough that he should have been able to stop NADEP from closing?  Anyway, I think that base closures have always been politically motivated even though the base closure commission is supposed to be non-political. Rolling Eyes   But as far as I know, these commissions have always been bi-partisan.  I don't think that either a group of liberals or conservatives could easily have a monopoly on closing bases/jobs only areas dominated by the other political party.   They work out deals with each other on this kind of thing.

Nekochan

Nekochan

PACEDOG#1 wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Whiting Field helicopter training will end up at Fort Rucker. That threat has been real since before I became a flight instructor with Helicopter Training Squadron Eight in 1981.

Miller is just a suck-up to the Tea Party/Frightwing Faction of the GOP. Name one piece of major legislation with his name at the top----I don't think there are any, and he has been in Congress since 2001.

Earl Hutto, another suck-up (a Democratic one), retired from Congress when he could not hold onto NADEP Pensacola. Watch Miller bolt if any of his military bases are consolidated.....
Never happen. Navy, Marine, AF and Coastie helos need a body of water to practice over and it's cost prohibitive to fly from Rucker to the Gulf of Mexico to do the needed training according to the Stan/Evals that the prospective pilots have to fulfill. STFU and go live a Rucker if you think things are better there. As long as the majority of services are doing initial flight training as a JOINT operation, Rucker doesn't have a chance.
I personally like Fort Rucker.  It's a nice base.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

PACEDOG#1 wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Whiting Field helicopter training will end up at Fort Rucker. That threat has been real since before I became a flight instructor with Helicopter Training Squadron Eight in 1981.

Miller is just a suck-up to the Tea Party/Frightwing Faction of the GOP. Name one piece of major legislation with his name at the top----I don't think there are any, and he has been in Congress since 2001.

Earl Hutto, another suck-up (a Democratic one), retired from Congress when he could not hold onto NADEP Pensacola. Watch Miller bolt if any of his military bases are consolidated.....
Never happen. Navy, Marine, AF and Coastie helos need a body of water to practice over and it's cost prohibitive to fly from Rucker to the Gulf of Mexico to do the needed training according to the Stan/Evals that the prospective pilots have to fulfill. STFU and go live a Rucker if you think things are better there. As long as the majority of services are doing initial flight training as a JOINT operation, Rucker doesn't have a chance.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but I got my wings without landing on a carrier--the Lex was unavailable for an extended period during 1976. I did carrier quals on the USS Tarawa in the first tactical squadron I served in during 1977 of the coast of Camp Pendleton. The same can be done now.

Carrier quals in a helicopter are nothing. Five FCLPs on land, 5 day landings on the boat, and 5 landings after official sunset, and that "X" is fulfilled. The rest of that training can be fuilfilled in the fleet.

BTW, during the Vietnam War, entire classes of Marine helo pilots got their wings at Fort Rucker because the pipeline at Ellyson was backlogged. They did their boat training in the fleet like I did.

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