Obamacare hits home....Sacred Heart to lay off 150-200

http://www.pnj.com/article/20130604/NEWS01/130604019/Sacred-Heart-announces-imminent-layoff-125-150-employees

Well, nice.

PACEDOG#1 wrote:http://www.pnj.com/article/20130604/NEWS01/130604019/Sacred-Heart-announces-imminent-layoff-125-150-employees

Well, nice.

This makes you happy, why..?

Does your selfish hatred of Pres Obama make you wish for bad economic news that puts others out of work...?

I do not understand why you and Vector applaud layoffs and protracted un-employment.

When you consider they have 3 hospitals and several office between Foley and Port St Joe and 5000 employee's the number seems insignificant. They would have laid most of those employee's off anyway with the medicaid cut's in Florida and the fact Florida did not accept the medicaid dollars from the government. It would not have mattered with or without obamacare.

I have a niece that worked for Covenant Healthcare in Knoxville as the HIM Director. She has been with them for over 10 years and she received her walking papers last week. So Sacred Heart isn't the only healthcare that is being affected by ObamaCare.

Don't worry... when the govt fully takes over the bureaucratic bloat will fix the numbers.

Now repeat after me... less is more... less is more... less is more. There... you should feel better now.

PkrBum wrote:Don't worry... when the govt fully takes over the bureaucratic bloat will fix the numbers.

Now repeat after me... less is more... less is more... less is more. There... you should feel better now.

In the campaigns....cowh---this healthcare will not cost Americans one thin dime and will create jobs....Why worry?...The IRS will be enforcing the healthcare regulations....what could possibly go wrong?...Warning: Do not mention conservative....tea party...patriot etc., on ANY healthcare forms!...

I think the irs alone will add 17K agents to enforce the mandate... maybe barbers will start doing surgery again.

PkrBum wrote:I think the irs alone will add 17K agents to enforce the mandate... maybe barbers will start doing surgery again.

We have been done that road before with doctors and hospitals hiring Unlicensed Assistive Personnel. UAP's are suppose to work under the direct guidance of an RN....but in many cases they were not doing that but working without direct supervision and medical facilities were saving money. Many of the "nurses" in physicians offices (they identify themselves as a "nurse") are not nurses. Be careful of the information they provide.

Obama care will decrease medical personnel and as you said "bureaucratic bloats" will tripled.

I am not sure anybody on this thread has provided a logical analysis of what Sacred Heart is facing in it's market, and why personnel cuts are necessary. Blaming a health care plan which takes effect in 2014, ignores local market realities and many other reasons for a 5% reduction in staff. However, it is easy to blame legislation for lay offs, or give credit to the President for Record corporate profits.....but the reality is in between, and that takes work to discuss in between.....so we have easy answers.

Well it's about 3.5% of staff. If you visited all their facilities in one day I am sure there are that many slackers not doing their jobs and probably should lose their jobs. If you read any comments in the news journal apparently to attract some employee's they offered to pay off their student loans. The CEO make's over $600,000 a year and many top management make a good 6 figure income. If they wanted to keep some of those employee's let them cut their salaries. Also Florida not accepting Medicaid dollars will still present large write off's for un paying patients. I would imagine Baptist will be announcing layoff's soon also. I had a Doc associated with SH tell me very recently they are still receiving the same payments from Medicare. I also would imagine their are hundreds of non-essential personnel working in SH and Baptist and out of an 8 hour shift are probably productive around 4. I am surprised republican's aren't applauding this move, after all isn't the bottom line about profits and running a lean machine?

Oh, if you notice the recent list that was publicized on the internet of hospital charges and what is actually collected SH collected the most in this area even though West Florida was the most expensive.

I guess no one fully read the article and the reasons SH said they are laying off? The CEO was getting something like 1.4 million. Let's forget about the medicaid cuts Gov. Scott refused and blame it on Obama.LOL!

doubtingthomas wrote:Well it's about 3.5% of staff. If you visited all their facilities in one day I am sure there are that many slackers not doing their jobs and probably should lose their jobs. If you read any comments in the news journal apparently to attract some employee's they offered to pay off their student loans. The CEO make's over $600,000 a year and many top management make a good 6 figure income. If they wanted to keep some of those employee's let them cut their salaries. Also Florida not accepting Medicaid dollars will still present large write off's for un paying patients. I would imagine Baptist will be announcing layoff's soon also. I had a Doc associated with SH tell me very recently they are still receiving the same payments from Medicare. I also would imagine their are hundreds of non-essential personnel working in SH and Baptist and out of an 8 hour shift are probably productive around 4. I am surprised republican's aren't applauding this move, after all isn't the bottom line about profits and running a lean machine?

My daughter is a nurse. She works whenever she's called, but the most "normal" thing about her hours is 3 consecutive 12-hour shifts. That's not consistent, but I assure you she's not "slacking". What do you mean by "non-essential personnel"? Housekeeping? Dietary?

Today's article in the PNJ stated that the move was in part a reaction to Florida's rejection of funding from the feds for the Affordable Care Act. It also stated that the sequester had an inpact...I don't really know what or how.

The CEO of Sacred Heart makes well in excess of $1 million a year, and they're part of Ascension Health, a conglomerate of Catholic hospitals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascension_Health

IMHO, Sacred Heart was better when it was managed by the local nuns.

Floridatexan wrote:

doubtingthomas wrote:Well it's about 3.5% of staff. If you visited all their facilities in one day I am sure there are that many slackers not doing their jobs and probably should lose their jobs. If you read any comments in the news journal apparently to attract some employee's they offered to pay off their student loans. The CEO make's over $600,000 a year and many top management make a good 6 figure income. If they wanted to keep some of those employee's let them cut their salaries. Also Florida not accepting Medicaid dollars will still present large write off's for un paying patients. I would imagine Baptist will be announcing layoff's soon also. I had a Doc associated with SH tell me very recently they are still receiving the same payments from Medicare. I also would imagine their are hundreds of non-essential personnel working in SH and Baptist and out of an 8 hour shift are probably productive around 4. I am surprised republican's aren't applauding this move, after all isn't the bottom line about profits and running a lean machine?

My daughter is a nurse. She works whenever she's called, but the most "normal" thing about her hours is 3 consecutive 12-hour shifts. That's not consistent, but I assure you she's not "slacking". What do you mean by "non-essential personnel"? Housekeeping? Dietary?

Today's article in the PNJ stated that the move was in part a reaction to Florida's rejection of funding from the feds for the Affordable Care Act. It also stated that the sequester had an inpact...I don't really know what or how.

The CEO of Sacred Heart makes well in excess of $1 million a year, and they're part of Ascension Health, a conglomerate of Catholic hospitals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascension_Health

IMHO, Sacred Heart was better when it was managed by the local nuns.

Nurses are and have always been short-staffed. They work long hard hours with more than the standard or preferred patient/nurse ratio. There is no time for slacking. SHH like most hospitals is top heavy. Medical personnel will be cut.

I was on a hospital committee and I got off....I didn't want to go to a meeting so we could decide when to meet....stupid.

Bottom lime:
libs will defend it and realists know and face the truth. People are losing jobs and treatment. obamacare. Lets hope those that voted for it don't get sick. Just kidding. Rather them than me. obama can't touch my healthcare. Hahaha

Best comment on the PNJ article was written by a nurse that I have known for years and I admire.

I would like to recommend that anyone reading this article take the time to read the March 4th issue of Time magazine "A Bitter Pill" and then re-read this article. Not for profit hospitals have an unbelievable profit margin, and a good amount of their profits are earned on the backs of nurses and ancillary help by continually cutting staff. Make sure you take a family member with you whenever you go to a hospital.

Most socialized countries standardly do this... minimal services aren't included in health care anymore.

You won't see this in comparisons... you won't see this in the rationalizations for socialist healthcare.

But it will soon be our reality. Less is more... repeat after me... less is more. Good... govt is the new religion.

Cutting staff while currently building a five-story tower to accommodate an additional 112 private patient rooms and critical care beds....makes sense.

Joanimaroni wrote:Cutting staff while currently building a five-story tower to accommodate an additional 112 private patient rooms and critical care beds....makes sense.

You have a point here. Maybe their laying off in other facilities. They probably have a just a building fund that they do not mix monie's into the payroll account. Who know's.