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The Latest Lie: IRS Targeted Conservatives

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan


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"Remember the video of the guy (O'Keefe) in the “pimp costume” who got advice from ACORN employees on how to run his prostitution ring? Turns out the whole story was just a lie, a doctored-video smear job on an important organization. The guy never wore a “pimp costume” and the real, undoctored videos showed that ACORN employees did nothing wrong. But a lie travels around the world before the corporate media bothers to check the facts. The “news” media blasted the story everywhere, and Congress was so outraged they forced ACORN to close its doors. And here we are again.

The corporate media is blasting out the story that the IRS “targeted conservative groups.” Some in the media say there was “IRS harassment of conservative groups.” Some of the media are going so far as claiming that conservative groups were “audited.”

This story that is being repeated and treated as “true” is just not what happened at all. It is one more right-wing victimization fable, repeated endlessly until the public has no choice except to believe it.

Conservative Groups Were Not “Targeted,” “Singled Out” Or Anything Else

You are hearing that conservative groups were “targeted.” What you are not hearing is that progressive groups were also “targeted.” So were groups that are not progressive or conservative.

All that happened here is that groups applying to the IRS for special tax status were checked to see if they were engaged in political activity. They were checked, not targeted. Only one-third of the groups checked were conservative groups.

Once again: Only one-third of the groups checked were conservative groups.


Conservative groups were not “singled out,” were not “targeted” and in the end none were denied special tax status – even though many obviously should have been.

From last week’s House hearings on this:

Rep. Peter Roskam, R-IL: “How come only conservative groups got snagged?”

Outgoing acting IRS commissioner Steve Miller: “They didn’t sir. Organizations of all walks and all persuasions were pulled in. That’s shown by the fact that only 70 of the 300 organizations were tea party organizations, of the ones that were looked at by TIGTA [Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration].”

Bet you didn’t see that blasted all over your TV news that night.

Click here to watch the video clip of this. It’s worth it.

And from Bloomberg reporting: IRS Sent Same Letter to Democrats That Fed Tea Party Row, (emphasis added, for emphasis)

One of those groups, Emerge America, saw its tax-exempt status denied, forcing it to disclose its donors and pay some taxes. None of the Republican groups have said their applications were rejected. Progress Texas … faced the same lines of questioning as the Tea Party groups from the same IRS office that issued letters to the Republican-friendly applicants. A third group, Clean Elections Texas, which supports public funding of campaigns, also received IRS inquiries.

In a statement late yesterday, the tax agency said it had pooled together the politically active nonpartisan applicants — including a “minority” that were identified because of their names. “It is also important to understand that the group of centralized cases included organizations of all political views,” the IRS said in its statement.

Again, for emphasis: “It is also important to understand that the group of centralized cases included organizations of all political views,” the IRS said in its statement.”

But no matter, its conventional wisdom now that “the IRS targeted conservative groups.” And it’s very useful to the right if people believe this. But it just is not true. (If you want to see conventional wisdom at work watch this clip from the most recent Saturday Night Live.)

What Did Happen?

Here’s the story. After the “Citizen’s United” decision allowed unlimited corporate money into elections there was a flood of applications to get special tax status that allowed an organization to hide its donors from the public, and in some cases even be tax-exempt. But the rules say that political groups can’t get this special tax status. The IRS has to check out applications for tax status to see if it is really a political group trying to sneak in to a special tax status.

Because they were flooded and couldn’t check out every applying organization, the IRS group looked for things in the applications that “flagged” an organization as possibly a political group. These flagged applications were then passed along to specialists to look deeper and determine if they were legit or not.

So What Was The “Wrongdoing”?

The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) has issued a full report: Inappropriate Criteria Were Used to Identify Tax-Exempt Applications for Review that looked into the accusation that the IRS “targeted” tea party groups that were applying for special tax status for extra scrutiny. The report is not all that long. You should read it. (Apparently most the people you are hearing from in the media haven’t read it.)

According to the report, the swamped IRS group involved in this came up with ways – “criteria” – to identify groups that really needed to be checked further because it was possible they might be engaged in the kind of political activity that would exclude them from getting the special tax status. (The rules for what constitutes political activity that would keep a group for getting special tax status are, to say the least, not clear. See the P.S. below.) Some groups were chosen to receive the required scrutiny because they had “political-sounding” names. Some of the “political-sounding names” included the words “tea party.” Others included “We the People” and “Take Back the Country.” (The inspector general’s report does not disclose if or which other “political sounding names” were also used as criteria.)

And the other problem was that the scrutiny these groups received involved some “unnecessary, burdensome questions.”

That was the extent of the wrongdoing. At a time when they couldn’t give all applying groups the necessary scrutiny they used criteria that included the names of an applying group to decide if it would get the required scrutiny. And they asked “unnecessary, burdensome questions.” That’s it. That’s the whole thing.

Normally all groups applying for special tax status would and should all get looked at to see if they were really political groups. In this case no groups received any extra scrutiny as has been accused, instead many received less than usual. No group was “singled out” or “targeted” for extra scrutiny, instead they were not given the free pass others were getting because of the overload of applicants.

The IG report concluded that it was wrong to use a group’s name as a criteria to help determine if an applicant would be checked out at a time when there were so many applications that every group was not being checked out. (However, the IG report did say that most of the groups forwarded with this criteria in fact should have been forwarded.)

Again, that’s the wrongdoing that has triggered the absolute frenzy of outrage you are hearing from … everyone. They said it was silly to use a group’s name as criteria for deciding if they should be checked out thoroughly at a time when the IRS was too busy to thoroughly check all applications as they usually do. And they said groups filing for a special tax status but suspected of political activity were then asked “unnecessary, burdensome questions.”

And again, that’s it, That’s the whole “scandal.” That’s the whole “IRS harassing conservative groups.” That’s the whole “Obama the dictatorial tyrant going after his enemies” hissy-fit. (Please read Digby’s The Art of the Hissy-Fit)..."

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/17/opinion/the-republicans-scandal-machine.html?emc=eta1&_r=2&

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


http://www.rollcall.com/news/the_real_problem_at_the_irs_commentary-224844-1.html


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Everyone can agree it is unacceptable for the IRS to target particular organizations based on political ideology. If that’s what agents at the IRS were up to, they were wrong and there should be consequences. The real problem, however, is not that the IRS is overly aggressive but that it has sat by idly while an ever-increasing number of groups blatantly violate the laws governing 501(c)(4) organizations. Where is the outrage over that?
My organization, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, has regularly criticized the IRS for spending the past two elections sitting on its hands while dark-money groups, organized under Section 501(c)(4) of the tax code, spent millions of dollars contributed by anonymous donors to run vituperative, deceptive political ads. Under the law, 501(c)(4) status is reserved for groups promoting social welfare; it was never intended to apply to political groups.
Nevertheless, largely because of the disastrous 2010 Citizens United decision, the number of applications for 501(c)(4) status more than doubled from 2010 to 2012. The tea party became a political force during the same period. As a result, an overwhelming number of the new groups attempting to benefit from 501(c)(4) status supported Republican candidates and causes. While there are some 501(c)(4)s oriented toward Democrats, including Priorities USA, because of liberal opposition to dark-money groups, the vast majority are conservative.
Under these circumstances, it is understandable that IRS agents would have been concerned about whether many of these newly minted groups were in fact political parties and therefore not entitled to 501(c)(4) status. It is noteworthy that IRS officials made no effort to stymie the efforts of clearly conservative groups to register as 501(c)(4)s. One of the largest, the American Action Network, headed by former Republican Sen. Norm Coleman of Minnesota, sped through the approval process in less than six weeks, and the Commission on Hope, Growth and Opportunity — which had a strong presence in 2010 but is now defunct — had its application approved in less than a month.
The real scandal is not that the IRS made inquiries to ensure political groups were not benefiting improperly from 501(c)(4) status, it is that the agency fails to enforce the law even against the most blatant violators. Federal law states that these groups must operate “exclusively for purposes beneficial to the community as a whole,” but IRS regulations allow groups “primarily” engaged in social-welfare activities to take advantage of tax-exempt status. Based on this misreading of the law, many 501(c)(4) groups have interpreted this to mean they can spend up to 49 percent of their funds on political activities. Some groups, such as AAN, willfully violate even this standard with no apparent consequences.
For example, in its 2010 501(c)(4) application to the IRS, AAN stated that it expected to spend less than 20 percent of its resources on political activities. Yet within days of receiving IRS approval, AAN acknowledged that it planned far greater political activity than it had represented. The group’s tax returns show that 66.8 percent of AAN’s total spending from July 2009 through June 2011 was used for political activity. By any definition, this is clearly over the percentage permitted by the tax code. CREW filed other complaints against Americans for Tax Reform, the Commission on Hope, Growth and Opportunity, and the American Future Fund, but there is no evidence the IRS acted on any of them..."

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Lurch wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/17/opinion/the-republicans-scandal-machine.html?emc=eta1&_r=2&

That GOP 'scandalmachine' had better kick into overdrive, because according to Bloomberg, consumers are the happiest they have been since 2007. I posted this article on another thread I started a bit ago:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-05-17/consumers-are-the-happiest-since-2007#r=rss?utm_source=feedly

Just what are the 2014 implications if the economy continues to improve over the next 17 months? Unless of course, one of these 'scandals' can be made to stick....

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Guest


Guest

Lerner planted the question to which she then admitted to and apologized for targeting conservative groups...

what else exactly do you need? btw... the other progressives are turning on this issue... try to keep up please.

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/22/lois_lerner_irs_disaster/

Markle

Markle

Desperation on behalf of the Progressives. They are getting spread pretty thin and more scandals are on the way.

FloridaTexan, ACORN was guilty as sin. That's just part of the reason they no longer exist. They have been reforming under a different name.

We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg with the IRS burgeoning scandal. It is getting huge. Now a top official has even screwed the pooch on trying to plead the Fifth Amendment.

If everything was on the up and up, why did the IRS say they screwed up, said they were wrong and apologized.

Why too are top officials retaining CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEYS and pleading the Fifth Amendment. Starting to starting to sound like the administration of President Richard M. Nixon.

President Barack Hussein Obama now has a maelstrom of four, going on five major scandals.

In my opinion, Eric Holder is going to have to go many others will follow. Valarie Jarrett who is probably the source of most of the scandals will escape under the radar and being such a close personal friend of the Obama and Michelle.



Last edited by Markle on 6/8/2013, 3:21 am; edited 1 time in total

2seaoat



Bet you didn’t see that blasted all over your TV news that night.

I watched it on TV and it is a tempest in a teapot....entertaining when you watch on fox, because every time a Democrat begins speaking, they broke of a commercial.....it was sad. I mean really? Are Americans really this dumb?

Give everybody immunity, and forget the criminal charges.....let them testify and put this to bed.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:Desperation on behalf of the Progressives. They getting spread pretty thin and more scandals are on the way.

FloridaTexan, ACORN was guilty as sin. That's just part of the reason they no longer exist. They have been reforming under a different name.

We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg with the IRS burgeoning scandal. It is getting huge. Now a top official has even screwed the pooch on trying to plead the Fifth Amendment.

If everything was on the up and up, why did the IRS say they screwed up, said they were wrong and apologized.

Why too are top officials retaining CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEYS and pleading the Fifth Amendment. Starting to starting to sound like the administration of President Richard M. Nixon.

President Barack Hussein Obama now has a maelstrom of four, going on five major scandals.

In my opinion, Eric Holder is going to have to go many others will follow. Valarie Jarrett who is probably the source of most of the scandals will escape under the radar and being such a close personal friend of the Obama and Michelle.

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Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:Desperation on behalf of the Progressives. They getting spread pretty thin and more scandals are on the way.

FloridaTexan, ACORN was guilty as sin. That's just part of the reason they no longer exist. They have been reforming under a different name.

We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg with the IRS burgeoning scandal. It is getting huge. Now a top official has even screwed the pooch on trying to plead the Fifth Amendment.

If everything was on the up and up, why did the IRS say they screwed up, said they were wrong and apologized.

Why too are top officials retaining CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEYS and pleading the Fifth Amendment. Starting to starting to sound like the administration of President Richard M. Nixon.

President Barack Hussein Obama now has a maelstrom of four, going on five major scandals.

In my opinion, Eric Holder is going to have to go many others will follow. Valarie Jarrett who is probably the source of most of the scandals will escape under the radar and being such a close personal friend of the Obama and Michelle.


Fun to see that you concede everything I posted!

Thanks!

Guest


Guest

Markle wrote:Desperation on behalf of the Progressives. They getting spread pretty thin and more scandals are on the way.

FloridaTexan, ACORN was guilty as sin. That's just part of the reason they no longer exist. They have been reforming under a different name.

We are only seeing the tip of the iceberg with the IRS burgeoning scandal. It is getting huge. Now a top official has even screwed the pooch on trying to plead the Fifth Amendment.

If everything was on the up and up, why did the IRS say they screwed up, said they were wrong and apologized.

Why too are top officials retaining CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEYS and pleading the Fifth Amendment. Starting to starting to sound like the administration of President Richard M. Nixon.

President Barack Hussein Obama now has a maelstrom of four, going on five major scandals.

In my opinion, Eric Holder is going to have to go many others will follow. Valarie Jarrett who is probably the source of most of the scandals will escape under the radar and being such a close personal friend of the Obama and Michelle.

...............................

Your continuing effort to remain relevant is almost quaint.

If you stopped your feckless efforts, would it involve swords...?

Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:Bet you didn’t see that blasted all over your TV news that night.

I watched it on TV and it is a tempest in a teapot....entertaining when you watch on fox, because every time a Democrat begins speaking, they broke of a commercial.....it was sad. I mean really? Are Americans really this dumb?

Give everybody immunity, and forget the criminal charges.....let them testify and put this to bed.

Yeah, I bet that's what you'd be saying if it was a Republican President USING the IRS to intimidate and punish Progressives.

This is huge, we've only seen the tip of the iceberg and it already goes INSIDE the White House.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Bet you didn’t see that blasted all over your TV news that night.

I watched it on TV and it is a tempest in a teapot....entertaining when you watch on fox, because every time a Democrat begins speaking, they broke of a commercial.....it was sad. I mean really? Are Americans really this dumb?

Give everybody immunity, and forget the criminal charges.....let them testify and put this to bed.

Yeah, I bet that's what you'd be saying if it was a Republican President USING the IRS to intimidate and punish Progressives.

This is huge, we've only seen the tip of the iceberg and it already goes INSIDE the White House.

Dream on in your Machiavellian world. This is a witch hunt from a desperate, irrelevant parody of a political party. Good try, but this is much too reminiscent of Bill Clinton's tenure. It's a pile-on. None of these "multiple scandals" amount to a hill of beans. Tip of the iceberg...HAHAHAHA...more like a mirage.

Questions for you, Markle: Which party won the last election? Which party has a President in the White House? Now tell me again which party is DESPERATE.

As Sherman Potter would say, "horse apples".

VectorMan

VectorMan

The title of this thread is a lie itself.

Liberal progressives would desperately love for these scandals to go away. But, don't look for that to happen any time soon.

Bad things happen to evil people.

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:
Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Bet you didn’t see that blasted all over your TV news that night.

I watched it on TV and it is a tempest in a teapot....entertaining when you watch on fox, because every time a Democrat begins speaking, they broke of a commercial.....it was sad. I mean really? Are Americans really this dumb?

Give everybody immunity, and forget the criminal charges.....let them testify and put this to bed.

Yeah, I bet that's what you'd be saying if it was a Republican President USING the IRS to intimidate and punish Progressives.

This is huge, we've only seen the tip of the iceberg and it already goes INSIDE the White House.

Dream on in your Machiavellian world. This is a witch hunt from a desperate, irrelevant parody of a political party. Good try, but this is much too reminiscent of Bill Clinton's tenure. It's a pile-on. None of these "multiple scandals" amount to a hill of beans. Tip of the iceberg...HAHAHAHA...more like a mirage.

Questions for you, Markle: Which party won the last election? Which party has a President in the White House? Now tell me again which party is DESPERATE.

As Sherman Potter would say, "horse apples".


Yes, DESPERATION! Which party has the most to lose? You know, not only being the first mixed race President of the United States AND the first mixed race President to be impeached or otherwise leaves office.

President Barack Hussein Obama had no experience, whatsoever in an executive, management position before his election. He believed all you had to do was appoint your friends, go on vacation and play golf. Like jumping off a bicycle while you're riding down the street. The bicycle will continue on with no change for a few minutes and then all heck breaks loose.

For President Obama. all heck has broke lose. The IRS, one of his biggest scandals, is the most critical since people FEAR the IRS. Unmanaged as they are, unrestrained as they are the government now has lost control of their own administration. This is what was expected when we elected someone who, by his own administration was unprepared.

Five scandals is a lot to handle, besides they seem to be coming...Fast and Furious.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Bet you didn’t see that blasted all over your TV news that night.

I watched it on TV and it is a tempest in a teapot....entertaining when you watch on fox, because every time a Democrat begins speaking, they broke of a commercial.....it was sad. I mean really? Are Americans really this dumb?

Give everybody immunity, and forget the criminal charges.....let them testify and put this to bed.

Yeah, I bet that's what you'd be saying if it was a Republican President USING the IRS to intimidate and punish Progressives.

This is huge, we've only seen the tip of the iceberg and it already goes INSIDE the White House.

Dream on in your Machiavellian world. This is a witch hunt from a desperate, irrelevant parody of a political party. Good try, but this is much too reminiscent of Bill Clinton's tenure. It's a pile-on. None of these "multiple scandals" amount to a hill of beans. Tip of the iceberg...HAHAHAHA...more like a mirage.

Questions for you, Markle: Which party won the last election? Which party has a President in the White House? Now tell me again which party is DESPERATE.

As Sherman Potter would say, "horse apples".


Yes, DESPERATION! Which party has the most to lose? You know, not only being the first mixed race President of the United States AND the first mixed race President to be impeached or otherwise leaves office.

President Barack Hussein Obama had no experience, whatsoever in an executive, management position before his election. He believed all you had to do was appoint your friends, go on vacation and play golf. Like jumping off a bicycle while you're riding down the street. The bicycle will continue on with no change for a few minutes and then all heck breaks loose.

For President Obama. all heck has broke lose. The IRS, one of his biggest scandals, is the most critical since people FEAR the IRS. Unmanaged as they are, unrestrained as they are the government now has lost control of their own administration. This is what was expected when we elected someone who, by his own administration was unprepared.

Five scandals is a lot to handle, besides they seem to be coming...Fast and Furious.

You are so full of shit.....

I know, cue the socrates quote.....

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Guest


Guest

ah we go back to who won again Rolling Eyes

as if the targeting means nothing. Just remember that when your side is the target, because if this doesn't get justice and goes unfettered, bet your horse apples on it that it will become a common tool of political dominance and no one will be safe and the rule of law trashed.

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Markle wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Bet you didn’t see that blasted all over your TV news that night.

I watched it on TV and it is a tempest in a teapot....entertaining when you watch on fox, because every time a Democrat begins speaking, they broke of a commercial.....it was sad. I mean really? Are Americans really this dumb?

Give everybody immunity, and forget the criminal charges.....let them testify and put this to bed.

Yeah, I bet that's what you'd be saying if it was a Republican President USING the IRS to intimidate and punish Progressives.

This is huge, we've only seen the tip of the iceberg and it already goes INSIDE the White House.

Dream on in your Machiavellian world. This is a witch hunt from a desperate, irrelevant parody of a political party. Good try, but this is much too reminiscent of Bill Clinton's tenure. It's a pile-on. None of these "multiple scandals" amount to a hill of beans. Tip of the iceberg...HAHAHAHA...more like a mirage.

Questions for you, Markle: Which party won the last election? Which party has a President in the White House? Now tell me again which party is DESPERATE.

As Sherman Potter would say, "horse apples".


Yes, DESPERATION! Which party has the most to lose? You know, not only being the first mixed race President of the United States AND the first mixed race President to be impeached or otherwise leaves office.

President Barack Hussein Obama had no experience, whatsoever in an executive, management position before his election. He believed all you had to do was appoint your friends, go on vacation and play golf. Like jumping off a bicycle while you're riding down the street. The bicycle will continue on with no change for a few minutes and then all heck breaks loose.

For President Obama. all heck has broke lose. The IRS, one of his biggest scandals, is the most critical since people FEAR the IRS. Unmanaged as they are, unrestrained as they are the government now has lost control of their own administration. This is what was expected when we elected someone who, by his own administration was unprepared.

Five scandals is a lot to handle, besides they seem to be coming...Fast and Furious.

You are so full of shit.....

I know, cue the socrates quote.....

Glad you are happy to acknowledge how deep the doo doo is that President Barack Hussein Obama and his administration are arrogantly sinking into so quickly.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Just because your little demented brain tells you something, Markle, doesn't make it so. Political hype...that's all you've got...and it's threadbare, limp, and malodorous.

Guest


Guest

Floridatexan wrote:
Just because your little demented brain tells you something, Markle, doesn't make it so. Political hype...that's all you've got...and it's threadbare, limp, and malodorous.


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Since you mention demented... Have you taken your meds today darlin'?

It might help take your mind off the scandal riddled White House affairs.

*****CHUCKLE*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOyasacx9vQ

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Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:
Just because your little demented brain tells you something, Markle, doesn't make it so. Political hype...that's all you've got...and it's threadbare, limp, and malodorous.


I know you're not sorry about posting such a massive, demonstrable lie last month...and I would NEVER say WE TOLD YOU SO, but this nightmare is exploding day by day.

What new revelation will come about tomorrow?

Why haven't any Progressives posted about the Unemployment rate ticking UP to 7.6%?

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