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1Hell of a price to pay....... Empty Hell of a price to pay....... 3/25/2013, 10:29 pm

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Senate Holds Vet Mental Health Hearing
Week of March 25, 2013
The U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs recently examined the Department of Veterans Affairs' efforts to provide mental health counseling for veterans who are committing suicides at a rate of more than 8,000 a year. The Department of Veterans Affairs has made progress, but is short of its own goal set last year to hire 1,600 clinicians by June 30. As of March 13, the VA had hired 1,105 clinicians. Dr. Robert A. Petzel, the head of the Veterans Health Administration, said the VA would streamline its hiring process to meet the June 30 goal. A transcript and video of the hearing are available on the U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs website along with the comprehensive report released earlier this year by VA on veterans who die by suicide.
For complete guides on veteran benefits, visit the Military.com Benefits Center.

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Hallmarkgrad1 wrote:Senate Holds Vet Mental Health Hearing
Week of March 25, 2013
The U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs recently examined the Department of Veterans Affairs' efforts to provide mental health counseling for veterans who are committing suicides at a rate of more than 8,000 a year. The Department of Veterans Affairs has made progress, but is short of its own goal set last year to hire 1,600 clinicians by June 30. As of March 13, the VA had hired 1,105 clinicians. Dr. Robert A. Petzel, the head of the Veterans Health Administration, said the VA would streamline its hiring process to meet the June 30 goal. A transcript and video of the hearing are available on the U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs website along with the comprehensive report released earlier this year by VA on veterans who die by suicide.
For complete guides on veteran benefits, visit the Military.com Benefits Center.

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a lot in the military are depressed. they've had pride stripped away from them in many ways, from pride of country that don't exist anymore, I think the whole gay thing didn't help either, because you know military is supposed to be manly man stuff. then how crappy the gov treats them all the way down to how people talk about them.

5Hell of a price to pay....... Empty Re: Hell of a price to pay....... 3/26/2013, 10:41 am

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6Hell of a price to pay....... Empty Re: Hell of a price to pay....... 3/26/2013, 11:02 am

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The vets are simply the canary in the mine. This country has had the median income plunge, the minimum wage is about 40% less in real dollars than it was when I was a kid, families struggle to pay utilities, pay rent, pay medical bills, and yet we have folks in congress who have been following dictates and making pledges to revolutionaries who want to destroy the American government and deliver it lock stock and barrel to wealth like a third world Latin American nation state which is democratic in name only where 70% of the population is in dire poverty, 20% is a middle class, and 10% are wealthy........yet in America, every attempt to increase the median income is stricken as folks who have million dollar homes deduct mortgage interest as the poor subsidize farm subsidy, and these fools continue to follow this course of divisive politics which only results in this country being looted by the oligarchy.......nope, the suicide rates simply reflect the general despair of this country as the middle class shrinks, the wealthy use government to leverage their hidden revolution, and a veteran leaves the service to find the world of little opportunity and folks literally starving.

7Hell of a price to pay....... Empty Re: Hell of a price to pay....... 3/26/2013, 11:06 am

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2seaoat wrote:The vets are simply the canary in the mine. This country has had the median income plunge, the minimum wage is about 40% less in real dollars than it was when I was a kid, families struggle to pay utilities, pay rent, pay medical bills, and yet we have folks in congress who have been following dictates and making pledges to revolutionaries who want to destroy the American government and deliver it lock stock and barrel to wealth like a third world Latin American nation state which is democratic in name only where 70% of the population is in dire poverty, 20% is a middle class, and 10% are wealthy........yet in America, every attempt to increase the median income is stricken as folks who have million dollar homes deduct mortgage interest as the poor subsidize farm subsidy, and these fools continue to follow this course of divisive politics which only results in this country being looted by the oligarchy.......nope, the suicide rates simply reflect the general despair of this country as the middle class shrinks, the wealthy use government to leverage their hidden revolution, and a veteran leaves the service to find the world of little opportunity and folks literally starving.

Tru dat.

Milton Friedman and the Chicago School Boys are the architects of this economic model.

This has been decades in the making.

8Hell of a price to pay....... Empty Re: Hell of a price to pay....... 3/26/2013, 11:15 am

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I just watched an HBO special on poverty in America which showed families who were middle class who have fallen into poverty. It showed how vulnerable and helpless most Americans have become. It showed how we want to blame the victims of the rape of America by the Oligarchies. How children are going to bed without meals.....how neighbors are extending extension cords to help their neighbors have basic electric.......how kids are embarrassed going to school living out of shelters when just months before they were living the middle class life......how folks are so vulnerable to the whim of employers who take these desperate people and squeeze them for all they are worth.......I have been a life long republican, but until every bill in America is helping the middle class and not this corrupt rotten corpse of an Oligarchy which wants to rig our system, I will fight the crazies and get people who care about Americans in office. This idea that there is this mass of lazy people who are the source of their own despair, is exactly what a veteran must face when they leave the safety of the military cocoon. I am so tired of this whole mentality of making cuts to bring prosperity to America and not taxing the wealthy who have raped this country. It is time to go back to 1982 tax rates, and it is time to build America for Americans, not a platform for foreign wealth to turn us into a colony once again..........it is time not to take the BS anymore.

9Hell of a price to pay....... Empty Re: Hell of a price to pay....... 3/26/2013, 11:35 am

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Do you really think money is the root cause of the suicides?

10Hell of a price to pay....... Empty Re: Hell of a price to pay....... 3/26/2013, 11:38 am

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2seaoat wrote:it is time not to take the BS anymore.

The only way to change things at this point is a general strike, massive unionization of the workforce, and some blood in the streets.
Hell of a price to pay....... General-strike

11Hell of a price to pay....... Empty Re: Hell of a price to pay....... 3/26/2013, 11:58 am

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Do you really think money is the root cause of the suicides?


My son's friends who served are unable to find work......they tend to drink too much and fall into despair.....they try going to school, but they see no future. So I think it is more than money......it is a career and a sense of worth......the substance abuse among some of his friends has been terrible, and most of these folks never were close to combat.....they simply went to the military because they had few other options.....now they are out and they are lost......suicide rates across America have increased.....this nation has turned upon itself.....cannibals as wealth rigs the system to turn our children into indentured servants.......sure some suicide is directly linked to trauma of war, but after WWII after the largest population saw the horrors of war, they came back to an economy which had 70% top tax rates, where interstates were being built, and opportunity allowed vets to find futures........no the suicides are not limited to the military.

12Hell of a price to pay....... Empty Re: Hell of a price to pay....... 3/26/2013, 12:18 pm

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Hallmarkgrad1 wrote:Do you really think money is the root cause of the suicides?

No, it's the disparity between the person's moral code and the deeds they've done and the things they've seen...and then they find what they find when they come home...and at some point, they realize they've been sold out... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

13Hell of a price to pay....... Empty Re: Hell of a price to pay....... 3/26/2013, 1:57 pm

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Floridatexan wrote:
Hallmarkgrad1 wrote:Do you really think money is the root cause of the suicides?

No, it's the disparity between the person's moral code and the deeds they've done and the things they've seen...and then they find what they find when they come home...and at some point, they realize they've been sold out... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

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