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2seaoat wrote:Just trying to mix in a bit of reality w a site the leftists might read... without throwing them into toxic shock.
This is a brilliant thread......blaming the Democrats for the Pension fiasco in the Post Office.......and the folks who have commented do not even know how that partisan vote lined up when this mess was created........Ironic and laugh out loud thread.
PkrBum wrote:Just trying to mix in a bit of reality w a site the leftists might read... without throwing them into toxic shock.
PkrBum wrote:What difference does it make which party comes up with a bad idea that has an adverse effect on our country?
You seem defensive when I criticize the govt and point out the negative/corrupt ways it handles our business.
PkrBum wrote:Freedom isn't free... it comes with great risk to an individual... but great reward too. Think of all of the people that died founding and protecting our country... that died crossing the oceans and traversing the continent. Bad ideas used to be fatal... hell even good ideas killed ya if bad luck came along. People like seagoat have lost the human perspective in a partisan academic exercise... they think that if something is complicated enough that results don't matter. The important thing is pretending to have a grasp of the ideology and dismissing common sense as unenlightened or an ivory tower idiot.
Bad ideas fail... it doesn't matter how it sounds in a class room or from a political podium. Results matter.
PkrBum wrote:What difference does it make which party comes up with a bad idea that has an adverse effect on our country?
You seem defensive when I criticize the govt and point out the negative/corrupt ways it handles our business.
2seaoat wrote:People like seagoat have lost the human perspective in a partisan academic exercise.
Nope.....I simply am showing that the premise of this thread was utterly false. That the Post Office has been gutted by special interests who want to cherry pick the profitable portions, and leave rural America abandoned with little or no service......and I am a Republican who knows who pushed the pension reform through.....and it had nothing to do with the reasoning of the article posted, as that was simple nonsense. It is not a question of human perspective, it is a question of facts and knowledge......in the absence of the same you have this thread making the Post Office fiasco look like some kind of big government failure, when it was simply a partisan move backed by special interests to try to close the doors on the post office and its unions.
PkrBum wrote:
There in lies the difference I guess... between subjective and objective principles. I don't give a damn which side did it. It's not like the other side hasn't robbed a lock box or wouldn't have compromised this one in another time... hell they all thght it was ok to commit insider trading or write bad checks or cheat the irs.
Matter of fact... I shouldn't have said other side... it's them against us imo. You're on the wrong side.
2seaoat wrote:. I don't give a damn which side did it.
Therein lies the problem.......like a petulant child this new breed of libertarian screams........I am not going to bed.......and you cannot make me......
The problem is that good government requires rational choices, and when the choice is all government is bad, then you get what you ask for.....bad government. People need to make rational choices based on the issues, and understand that temper tantrums about all government being bad, or threads which insinuate that "everybody" in Washington is responsible for the silliness with the post office.......the simple fact is people need to learn issues and take sides to effect good government.
Chrissy wrote:
you make no sense seaoat.
most people cry about patisan politics and how some people,yes, many here would stand by a bd idea as long as thier side was promoting it. along comes a person who looks directly at the problems without playing party politics and you give him a bunch of shit.
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