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Gunz wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48105731/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/
ButtMan wrote:The same thing is now happening in Afghanistan as happened in Iran. The longer these countries have foreign forces either propping up dictators or occupying the streets, the people who live there will run to that mindless religion to escape it.
If we had foreign forces either propping up dictators or occupying the streets of this country, I shudder to think about what insane movements our people would escape to.
Gunz wrote:This type of incident is an example of what is confusing to me about followers of Islam. Where do they find any justification for doling out such a drastic punishment? Even here in the states we read occasionally about fathers who kill family members (honor killings) over what we Americans would call a simply get divorced or get past it type of situation.
This may explain why Israel is so hell bent on wanting to protect itself from Islam. Although, according to teotwaki in another thread on the politics forum, Israel is the real evil. lolYella wrote:
Islam is the single most dangerous thing to ever threaten the civilization of this planet.
ButtMan wrote:This may explain why Israel is so hell bent on wanting to protect itself from Islam. Although, according to teotwaki in another thread on the politics forum, Israel is the real evil. lolYella wrote:
Islam is the single most dangerous thing to ever threaten the civilization of this planet.
Gunz wrote:This type of incident is an example of what is confusing to me about followers of Islam. Where do they find any justification for doling out such a drastic punishment? Even here in the states we read occasionally about fathers who kill family members (honor killings) over what we Americans would call a simply get divorced or get past it type of situation.
ButtMan wrote:Gunz wrote:This type of incident is an example of what is confusing to me about followers of Islam. Where do they find any justification for doling out such a drastic punishment? Even here in the states we read occasionally about fathers who kill family members (honor killings) over what we Americans would call a simply get divorced or get past it type of situation.
Why did hundreds kill themselves only because Jim Jones told them it was the thing to do?
Why did Jap fighter pilots kill themselves because they thought it was honoring that little asshole of an Emperor?
Human beings can be manipulated to go along with just about anything. It's because so many human beings want others to do their thinking for them.
TEOTWAWKI wrote:
The towers were exploded...does this look like a collapse. NO ! This was a controlled demolition plainly to anyone honest enough to look at the picture..
Azadeh wrote:TEOTWAWKI wrote:
The towers were exploded...does this look like a collapse. NO ! This was a controlled demolition plainly to anyone honest enough to look at the picture..
Just because there is a picture showing a poof of debris doesn't prove that the towers were intentionally blown up by demolitionists.
TEOTWAWKI wrote:Azadeh wrote:TEOTWAWKI wrote:
The towers were exploded...does this look like a collapse. NO ! This was a controlled demolition plainly to anyone honest enough to look at the picture..
Just because there is a picture showing a poof of debris doesn't prove that the towers were intentionally blown up by demolitionists.
A simple rule of physics Life and nature...NOTHING FALLS INTO THE PATH OF MOST RESISTANCE..NOTHING !
The buildings falling the way they did caused far less damage than they would have under NON CONTROLLED Collapse..
WTC 7 fell perfectly into it's footprint and we were told when it would happen...
ButtMan wrote:The same thing is now happening in Afghanistan as happened in Iran. The longer these countries have foreign forces either propping up dictators or occupying the streets, the people who live there will run to that mindless religion to escape it.
If we had foreign forces either propping up dictators or occupying the streets of this country, I shudder to think about what insane movements our people would escape to.
TEOTWAWKI wrote:ButtMan wrote:This may explain why Israel is so hell bent on wanting to protect itself from Islam. Although, according to teotwaki in another thread on the politics forum, Israel is the real evil. lolYella wrote:
Islam is the single most dangerous thing to ever threaten the civilization of this planet.
So there I was minding my own business and enjoying the end of a beautiful day and assman decides to slam me. Listen assman if Israel were to disappear off the planet along with it's satelites in the City of London and Wallstreet this world would be holding hands and singing " I'd like to buy the world a coke"
The Moneyed powers that they are and represent love to use the media to inflame and keep us attacking each other. The Muslims are a reaction to an action. The more we challenge the muslims with weapons the stronger they grow ideologically. Believe me a man that will die for his faith is a man to fear. The Israelis worship money so they are to be feared as they have the bomb and I have NO doubt they would use it if it made them a buck.
Whoops was that a stereotype...?
http://www.rense.com/general87/911.htm
"Why would terrorists take straight-down collapses of WTC7 and the Towers, when "toppling-over" falls would require much less work and would do much more damage in downtown Manhattan? And where would they obtain the necessary skills and access to the buildings for a symmetrical implosion anyway? The "symmetry data" emphasized here [in my paper], along with other data, provide strong evidence for an inside job."40
Since Silverstein and Eisenberg were the only two people to benefit directly from "straight-down collapses of WTC7 and the Towers," could the attack have been, at least in part, something as mundane as real-estate insurance swindle?
Silverstein and Eisenberg should have also been investigated because of their political connections. Eisenberg headed Bush's New Jersey fundraising committee; was recently elected Finance Chairman of the Republican National Committee; is a director of the Republican Jewish Coalition; and is a former vice-president of AIPAC.
Gunz wrote:This type of incident is an example of what is confusing to me about followers of Islam. Where do they find any justification for doling out such a drastic punishment? Even here in the states we read occasionally about fathers who kill family members (honor killings) over what we Americans would call a simply get divorced or get past it type of situation.
Slicef18 wrote:Gunz wrote:This type of incident is an example of what is confusing to me about followers of Islam. Where do they find any justification for doling out such a drastic punishment? Even here in the states we read occasionally about fathers who kill family members (honor killings) over what we Americans would call a simply get divorced or get past it type of situation.
Most all of the population of Afghanistan are illiterate, so they have no opportunity to read what the Koran/Qaran really says. Their religious laws come out of the mouths of their leaders. Additionally, in their culture women are property just as women were when our nation was founded 200 years ago.
VectorMan wrote:Slicef18 wrote:Gunz wrote:This type of incident is an example of what is confusing to me about followers of Islam. Where do they find any justification for doling out such a drastic punishment? Even here in the states we read occasionally about fathers who kill family members (honor killings) over what we Americans would call a simply get divorced or get past it type of situation.
Most all of the population of Afghanistan are illiterate, so they have no opportunity to read what the Koran/Qaran really says. Their religious laws come out of the mouths of their leaders. Additionally, in their culture women are property just as women were when our nation was founded 200 years ago.
Thomas Jefferson, in his famous Notes on Virginia, criticized the Indian tribes for their treatment of women and held up Colonial American society as an example. Jefferson wrote:
The women are submitted to unjust drudgery. This I believe is the case with every barbarous people. With such, force is law. The stronger sex therefore imposes on the weaker. It is civilization alone which replaces women in the enjoyment of their natural equality. That first teaches us to subdue the selfish passions, and to respect those rights in others which we value in ourselves. Were we in equal barbarism, our females would be equal drudges
To be fair you have to point out how American society has advanced and become more civil. Killing someone for adultry is in no way advanced or civilized. I also find no reference to women being someone else's or her husband's property 200 years ago in America.
TEOTWAWKI wrote:VectorMan wrote:Slicef18 wrote:Gunz wrote:This type of incident is an example of what is confusing to me about followers of Islam. Where do they find any justification for doling out such a drastic punishment? Even here in the states we read occasionally about fathers who kill family members (honor killings) over what we Americans would call a simply get divorced or get past it type of situation.
Most all of the population of Afghanistan are illiterate, so they have no opportunity to read what the Koran/Qaran really says. Their religious laws come out of the mouths of their leaders. Additionally, in their culture women are property just as women were when our nation was founded 200 years ago.
Thomas Jefferson, in his famous Notes on Virginia, criticized the Indian tribes for their treatment of women and held up Colonial American society as an example. Jefferson wrote:
The women are submitted to unjust drudgery. This I believe is the case with every barbarous people. With such, force is law. The stronger sex therefore imposes on the weaker. It is civilization alone which replaces women in the enjoyment of their natural equality. That first teaches us to subdue the selfish passions, and to respect those rights in others which we value in ourselves. Were we in equal barbarism, our females would be equal drudges
To be fair you have to point out how American society has advanced and become more civil. Killing someone for adultry is in no way advanced or civilized. I also find no reference to women being someone else's or her husband's property 200 years ago in America.
Yes the American culture is so much more advanced killing for good reasons like natural resources and new military bases. Also we like to test out our newest batch of weapons on living breathing people to see how effective they are...BAM !!! Guts everywhere...so advanced...
VectorMan wrote:TEOTWAWKI wrote:VectorMan wrote:Slicef18 wrote:Gunz wrote:This type of incident is an example of what is confusing to me about followers of Islam. Where do they find any justification for doling out such a drastic punishment? Even here in the states we read occasionally about fathers who kill family members (honor killings) over what we Americans would call a simply get divorced or get past it type of situation.
Most all of the population of Afghanistan are illiterate, so they have no opportunity to read what the Koran/Qaran really says. Their religious laws come out of the mouths of their leaders. Additionally, in their culture women are property just as women were when our nation was founded 200 years ago.
Thomas Jefferson, in his famous Notes on Virginia, criticized the Indian tribes for their treatment of women and held up Colonial American society as an example. Jefferson wrote:
The women are submitted to unjust drudgery. This I believe is the case with every barbarous people. With such, force is law. The stronger sex therefore imposes on the weaker. It is civilization alone which replaces women in the enjoyment of their natural equality. That first teaches us to subdue the selfish passions, and to respect those rights in others which we value in ourselves. Were we in equal barbarism, our females would be equal drudges
To be fair you have to point out how American society has advanced and become more civil. Killing someone for adultry is in no way advanced or civilized. I also find no reference to women being someone else's or her husband's property 200 years ago in America.
Yes the American culture is so much more advanced killing for good reasons like natural resources and new military bases. Also we like to test out our newest batch of weapons on living breathing people to see how effective they are...BAM !!! Guts everywhere...so advanced...
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