The Petraeus Affair: Why Was Obama Kept in the Dark?

nochain wrote:Until several days AFTER the election. This administration needs to get its act together, too many deceptive practices lead to even more distrust. Benghazi, Fast and Furious, MANY security leaks, and now Petraeus - what other roaches does this White House have hidden away? Of course it was convenient not to break the news to Dear Leader Jr until after the election (sure - I am quite sure he knew all about it). Smells like political influence trumped protocol. How many more secrets were leaked?

http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/14/the-mukasey-memo/?hpt=hp_t1

newswatcher wrote:
Without sounding like a conspiracy theory...there is speculation that the affair was held over the head of Gen Petraeus in order to control his comments and or testimony on the Embassy Attack/Murders...This continues to get worse by the minute...The Sec of State is out of the country and suddenly the Sec of Defense joins her when both are going to be called to testify...The AG (as noted of Fast and Furious Fame) had the information but with held releasing...This is either criminal negligence of deceptions and cover ups or it's criminal incompetence...either way this is not good for our national security and has gone on way too long...

Ghandi_is_my_bitch wrote:

newswatcher wrote:
Without sounding like a conspiracy theory...there is speculation that the affair was held over the head of Gen Petraeus in order to control his comments and or testimony on the Embassy Attack/Murders...This continues to get worse by the minute...The Sec of State is out of the country and suddenly the Sec of Defense joins her when both are going to be called to testify...The AG (as noted of Fast and Furious Fame) had the information but with held releasing...This is either criminal negligence of deceptions and cover ups or it's criminal incompetence...either way this is not good for our national security and has gone on way too long...

Yeah right, that sounds nothing like a conspiracy theory ...

newswatcher wrote: OK then...incompetence?...Any better?....This was created and covered up by the members of this administration up to and including the cowh...is there an explanation?

2seaoat wrote:Ithe success of Libya where some are having a hissy fit about the removal of a person who supported real terrorist who killed Americans .

nochain wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Ithe success of Libya where some are having a hissy fit about the removal of a person who supported real terrorist who killed Americans .

I imagine the folks in Libya would disagree:

"But, for the greater population of Libya, the “liberation” and its aftermath has brought nothing but more misery, with terror, intimidation, shortages, inflation and unemployment – one of the triggers of the original uprising – higher than it's ever been. The country itself is riven by various warring factions including a resurgent jihadist force linked to al Qaida. On August 27 the US State Department issued a statement warning US citizens against unnecessary travel in Libya adding: “Political violence, including car bombings in Tripoli and assassinations of military officers and alleged former regime officials in Benghazi, has increased. Inter-militia conflict can erupt at any time or any place in the country”. Simon Tisdall, who gave the quote in The Guardian on September 13, goes on to say about the breakaway army in Misrata controlling 30,000 small arms with “revolutionary brigades” controlling “more than 820 tanks, dozens of heavy artillery pieces and more than 2,300 vehicles equipped with machine-guns and anti-aircraft weapons”. Looking further afield in the region, the fallout of the war in Libya has spread more war and bloody instability throughout Mali and the Sahel giving a “new dawn”, if you like, to the Islamic fundamentalists of al-Qaida in the Maghreb. In Libya itself, the British Consulate in Benghazi had already been hit in June this year with the ambassador lucky to escape alive."

http://en.internationalism.org/icconline/201210/5187/one-year-liberation-and-libya-sinks-chaos

nochain wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Ithe s

Holy shit!

Nobrain is using the International Communist Current as a source to support his Qaddafi apologism??

This place is FAR OUT!

2seaoat wrote:Tell that to the families who lost loved ones in Pan Am flight 103. We have tried and failed to have regime change in Libya for almost 40 years.....and then this administration puts covert assets on the ground and get a European and Arab world consensus and effects regime change.

It took America 90 years to perfect our union, yet folks think that when disposing of brutal dictators that everything will be peachy.......it will not, but losing 2 trillion dollars and 4k brave souls vs a few billion and 4 people to date.....it has been a complete and utter success, and when Syria and Iran face the same internal pressures, this will be looked at historically like the Reagan and Bush demolition of the Berlin Wall. Yes, there was chaos after that event but 25 years later we can say that President Reagan was a foreign policy genius.....History will be very kind to President Obama.

2seaoat wrote:I find the requisite knowledge to understand the simple procedures of a congressional hearing to be missing with most forum members who somehow think that there has been any avoidance by anybody as if there is something to hide. First, this affair and resignation does nothing to stop testimony. The committee will simply issue a subpoena for the general to be present at the hearing on the date and time they want to hear from him......Period. If they want him next Thursday, he will be served, and he better show up or face contempt of Congress charges which would only compound the problems he faces with Mrs. Patreaus.

Second, what some may think is a cover up will simply be caution when discussing an active CIA mission. This is extremely important that in the process of discovering all the facts of the attack in Libya, that discretion does not allow this to become a Church commission which set our intelligence operations back a generation because of abuses in our agency in regime changes in Latin America.

Third, the impetus to find the truth is suddenly not as important as it was three weeks ago when the deaths of our agents could be bootstrapped to political advantage. Now, it is simply going to be an attempt to improve our current systems, and those who press for political advantage it will fall on fallow ears because the president is serving for four more years, and Hillary Clinton's assent to the Presidency is still four plus years away, and this was a CIA operation....yes, he was ambassador....but let me help you with this.....what do you think he was doing in Libya prior to Khaddafi finding a road culvert to be shot in........he was active CIA, and he knew the routine. These guys were not scardy cats hiding in the green zone in Iraq......they were making real change and advancing America's interest....plain and simple....the success of Libya where some are having a hissy fit about the removal of a person who supported real terrorist who killed Americans was removed with four deaths vs four thousand lost and over 2 trillion dollars in Iraq......duh.

Floridatexan wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Tell that to the families who lost loved ones in Pan Am flight 103. We have tried and failed to have regime change in Libya for almost 40 years.....and then this administration puts covert assets on the ground and get a European and Arab world consensus and effects regime change.

It took America 90 years to perfect our union, yet folks think that when disposing of brutal dictators that everything will be peachy.......it will not, but losing 2 trillion dollars and 4k brave souls vs a few billion and 4 people to date.....it has been a complete and utter success, and when Syria and Iran face the same internal pressures, this will be looked at historically like the Reagan and Bush demolition of the Berlin Wall. Yes, there was chaos after that event but 25 years later we can say that President Reagan was a foreign policy genius.....History will be very kind to President Obama.

Seaoat, Saint Raygun DID NOT "tear down that wall". He only used it for a convenient photo-op.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8232235.stm

othershoe1030 wrote:How can anyone say the General's affair was kept secret by the Obama administration until after the election when Eric Cantor knew about it in October? Are we to think Cantor didn't want Mittens to win? What is the reasoning here?

(CNN) -- House Majority Leader Eric Cantor knew in October about former CIA Director David Petraeus' involvement in an extramarital affair, a spokesman for the congressman told CNN on Sunday.
Doug Heye said Cantor, a Republican, was tipped to the information by an FBI employee. The congressman had a conversation with the official, described as a whistle-blower, about the affair and national security concerns involved in the matter, he said.
The New York Times reported Saturday that on October 31, Cantor's chief of staff phoned the FBI to inform the agency about the call between the congressman and the FBI official. The Times reported that Cantor learned of the whistle-blower through Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Washington.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/11/us/petraeus-cia-resignation/index.html

nochain wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:How can anyone say the General's affair was kept secret by the Obama administration until after the election when Eric Cantor knew about it in October? Are we to think Cantor didn't want Mittens to win? What is the reasoning here?

(CNN) -- House Majority Leader Eric Cantor knew in October about former CIA Director David Petraeus' involvement in an extramarital affair, a spokesman for the congressman told CNN on Sunday.
Doug Heye said Cantor, a Republican, was tipped to the information by an FBI employee. The congressman had a conversation with the official, described as a whistle-blower, about the affair and national security concerns involved in the matter, he said.
The New York Times reported Saturday that on October 31, Cantor's chief of staff phoned the FBI to inform the agency about the call between the congressman and the FBI official. The Times reported that Cantor learned of the whistle-blower through Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Washington.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/11/us/petraeus-cia-resignation/index.html

Yea - it's all his fault. He should have picked the phone up and done BHOs staffs job and told him. Yep, its always someones else's fault. Laughable.

othershoe1030 wrote:

nochain wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:How can anyone say the General's affair was kept secret by the Obama administration until after the election when Eric Cantor knew about it in October? Are we to think Cantor didn't want Mittens to win? What is the reasoning here?

(CNN) -- House Majority Leader Eric Cantor knew in October about former CIA Director David Petraeus' involvement in an extramarital affair, a spokesman for the congressman told CNN on Sunday.
Doug Heye said Cantor, a Republican, was tipped to the information by an FBI employee. The congressman had a conversation with the official, described as a whistle-blower, about the affair and national security concerns involved in the matter, he said.
The New York Times reported Saturday that on October 31, Cantor's chief of staff phoned the FBI to inform the agency about the call between the congressman and the FBI official. The Times reported that Cantor learned of the whistle-blower through Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Washington.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/11/us/petraeus-cia-resignation/index.html

Yea - it's all his fault. He should have picked the phone up and done BHOs staffs job and told him. Yep, its always someones else's fault. Laughable.

I'm just saying that if the revelation of the general's affair was such a great thing to expose before the election the Republicans had the information and for whatever reason didn't use it.

Maybe this was just another of their terrific moves in the brilliant campaign they ran at enormous expense and with little results?

Ghandi_is_my_bitch wrote:When 5 out of 8 Repuke senators on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee skip a classified briefing on Benghazi while simultaneously bitching about not being provided enough information on Benghazi, as happened today, I think we can conclude that this is nothing more than political theater.

Ghandi_is_my_bitch wrote:on Benghazi, as happened today, I think we can conclude that this is nothing more than political theater.

nochain wrote:

Ghandi_is_my_bitch wrote:on Benghazi, as happened today, I think we can conclude that this is nothing more than political theater.

Political Theater is ashamed to present the "Benghazi Death Saga - a Tale of Lies and Deceipt" produced and directed by Obama Productions, falsely promoted by Rice Publicity, and avoided by Hillary Clinton, Inc.