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NFL "take a knee" events and also Trump eats up fake news

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The weekend news was dominated by the images of NFL players and some owners kneeling during the national anthem. By now we all know the story of Trump's latest shinny object. He is quite proud of himself for once again turning the nation's attention toward himself.  

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump sounded very satisfied with his recent remarks on patriotism and the NFL in a dinner with conservative group leaders at the White House Monday night, according to a person who attended the event.

"It's really caught on. It's really caught on," Trump said of his NFL comments to attendees at the dinner, according to someone who attended. "I said what millions of Americans were thinking."
"You could really tell he was satisfied," this person in the room said about the President's comments.

So, the president creates his own little (big?) controversy stirring the racial relations pot once again while claiming basically "Who me? I never said anything about race!!"

Meanwhile he responds via Twitter about Iran launching a missile test. The test turns out to be fake news several months old.

Donald Trump was tricked into an angry public outburst by a seven-month-old video of an Iranian missile launch, US officials have revealed.

The President responded to claims over the weekend on Iranian state television that the Persian country had tested a medium-range ballistic missile, saying that a purported video of that test  proved the country was a danger to Middle Eastern ally Israel.

But, as it turns out, the videos were actually seven months old, US officials told Fox News. Iran has not launched a missile recently.

"Iran just test-fired a Ballistic Missile capable of reaching Israel," Mr Trump wrote in a tweet after the video was aired on television. "They are also working with North Korea. Not much of an agreement we have!"


Iran closes border with Iraqi Kurdistan over independence vote
The tweet, and the faked video, came just after the President said that the Iran nuclear agreement reached by his predecessor was an "embarrassment" to the United States, and insulted the Iranian regime in front of the entire world at the United Nations General Assembly.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-missile-launch-fake-video-us-officials-says-duped-a7967076.html


And, as if there is not enough going on let us not forget the playground bully contest between Donald and the North Korean leader which is seemingly escalating by the tweet.


This is such a dangerous person. We are sitting idly by while he continues to think he is the star of a reality show? Sadly he does not seem to realize that he is president. He thinks perhaps that he is like the guy in the movie The Truman Show? When is he going to walk off the stage? When is someone going to rewrite his script?

Does the Constitution offer remedies in cases such as this? Is there no one near him to talk sense to explain situations to him? Will the world witness a nuclear exchange before DC acts to restrain Donald? What will it take?

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It's pretty amazing.

In a completely self-created error, Trump has turned even more people against him, created more unnecessary division, gotten his idiot followers to boycott his NFL-owner friends and damage the economy during the football season... and you know who's the big winner here? Colin Kaepernik. Who isn't even playing right now, but, thanks to this, may soon be hireable again. Originally it was just Kapernik and a few others taking a knee... and now it's some entire teams, including the owners.

That is how bad Trump is at making deals. And none of it was even necessary. There were far more important things to talk about -- healthcare (which Trump wanted to avoid because he's failing... again), North Korea (which Trump wanted to avoid because Kim has called his bluff repeatedly and has him boxed into a situation that's going to be lousy for all involved), Puerto Rico (which Trump seems to want to let founder because his golf course there went bankrupt which hurt his widdle ego). All sorts of things.

But, nope, Trump goes for something cheap and racial because all he cares about is lighting up the Christmas-tree-bulb minds of his Alabama audience and get them to hoot and club their forelimbs together. He wanted an excuse to use his pitiful "You're FIRED!" catch-phrase from his TV show for a cheap crowd-pop, because feeling "liked" is in such short supply for him these days. Also, he wanted to say "son-of-a-bitch" in public because he thinks that'll make him look like Tony Soprano or something. Big fat tough guy.

And now Kaepernik -- whatever one thinks of him -- is the clear winner of this conflict. He could never have inspired this level of revolt on his own, but now it's widespread, and the country -- which has so many more important problems to deal with than some ritual which is frankly meaningless -- is torn even further apart. Hate, hate, hate, hate.

All over one completely unworthy, completely worthless pathological narcissist's sick need for approval. Donald J. Trump should never have been considered a serious candidate for the presidency of the United States, much less had it given to him.

I saw Hillary Clinton interviewed last night, and -- whatever one thinks of her -- the contrast was amazing. There was a person with a deep understanding of the issues and intelligent approaches to dealing with them. I'd almost forgotten what a smart person actually sounds like, after listening to Troglodyte Trump's 40-word-vocabulary speeches. What a horrible bargain this country's nastiest, stupidest people made for us, trading an accomplished statesperson for a toothless orange walrus.

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Distraction.

He's trying desperately to racially polarize the electorate while hiding his monumental failures behind the flag.

The sad part is that he's succeeding with his knuckle-dragging base.

I can't think of a single aspect to this nation that he is not poisoning.

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zsomething wrote:It's pretty amazing.  

In a completely self-created error, Trump has turned even more people against him, created more unnecessary division, gotten his idiot followers to boycott his NFL-owner friends and damage the economy during the football season... and you know who's the big winner here?   Colin Kaepernik.  Who isn't even playing right now, but, thanks to this, may soon be hireable again.  Originally it was just Kapernik and a few others taking a knee... and now it's some entire teams, including the owners.

That is how bad Trump is at making deals.  And none of it was even necessary.  There were far more important things to talk about -- healthcare (which Trump wanted to avoid because he's failing... again), North Korea (which Trump wanted to avoid because Kim has called his bluff repeatedly and has him boxed into a situation that's going to be lousy for all involved), Puerto Rico (which Trump seems to want to let founder because his golf course there went bankrupt which hurt his widdle ego).   All sorts of things.

But, nope, Trump goes for something cheap and racial because all he cares about is lighting up the Christmas-tree-bulb minds of his Alabama audience and get them to hoot and club their forelimbs together.  He wanted an excuse to use his pitiful "You're FIRED!" catch-phrase from his TV show for a cheap crowd-pop, because feeling "liked" is in such short supply for him these days.  Also, he wanted to say "son-of-a-bitch" in public because he thinks that'll make him look like Tony Soprano or something.  Big fat tough guy.

And now Kaepernik -- whatever one thinks of him -- is the clear winner of this conflict.  He could never have inspired this level of revolt on his own, but now it's widespread, and the country -- which has so many more important problems to deal with than some ritual which is frankly meaningless -- is torn even further apart.   Hate, hate, hate, hate.

All over one completely unworthy, completely worthless pathological narcissist's sick need for approval.   Donald J. Trump should never have been considered a serious candidate for the presidency of the United States, much less had it given to him.

I saw Hillary Clinton interviewed last night, and -- whatever one thinks of her -- the contrast was amazing.   There was a person with a deep understanding of the issues and intelligent approaches to dealing with them.  I'd almost forgotten what a smart person actually sounds like, after listening to Troglodyte Trump's 40-word-vocabulary speeches.  What a horrible bargain this country's nastiest, stupidest people made for us, trading an accomplished statesperson for a toothless orange walrus.


Nothing like an attack from the outside to unite NFL players and owners! To call protesters SOB's struck a nerve. It triggered the NFL player brotherhood into action. An attack on one...

I'm not alone in also being upset with this politicalization of yet another aspect of our culture. Sports was an area that offered some relief from the constant bombardment of tension and stress created by the amateurs in the WH and now even that line has been crossed, at least for this week.

Is it possible to return to what used to pass for "normal" or is Donald breaking things that can't be repaired?

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Thank you Jesus!
Now I don't have to watch the NFL anymore.
And even a more plus side is now I have more free time to build my bunker and listen to my Rush Hannity records.

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polecat wrote:Thank you Jesus!
Now I don't have to watch the NFL anymore.
And even a more plus side is now I have more free time to build my bunker and listen to my  Rush Hannity records.




Careful. Prolonged exposure to Rush Hannity may cause CTE.

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"You don't have freedom of speech at your job", is weird for an admin arguing businesses can refuse gay customers on free speech grounds. - Adam Serwer

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September 24 at 1:19pm · Monroe, CT ·
I’ve seen a lot of posts over the last 24 hours regarding “respecting the flag” and what that means…and how athletes who use their public forum to voice dissent are somehow “unpatriotic”. I want to offer a different opinion.
My father is buried at the foot of the flagpole in Golden Gate National Cemetery. He landed at Normandy, fought at the Battle of the Bulge and liberated Nazi camps in Germany. His enemy was fascism. I served as a Green Beret in the early 1970s (pretty sure you all know what that entails). Our enemy at the time was communism. My son is currently a serving officer in the Army, who on his dress blues wears the Bronze Star he was awarded during a year-long tour in Afghanistan. His enemy is and was the Taliban and the threat of terrorism.

Three generations of my family, serving the USA, in harms’ way. Three vastly different enemies, but enemies who shared one common trait. ALL of them stifle free speech. All of them bully, degrade and terrorize those who hold opposing views and who peacefully express them. All of them are intolerant and demand “loyalty” to the leader.

I can tell you, speaking for three generations of my family, it is PRECISELY for men like Kaepernick, and his right to peacefully protest injustice, that we were willing to serve. There is NOTHING more respectful of our country than living up to its ideals. There is nothing more patriotic than to say “I’m concerned with injustice, and will use my position to try and address it.”

Want to know what’s unpatriotic? Using your white privilege to avoid serving, citing “bone spurs in the heel” while playing varsity tennis at college while others went. Want to know what is antithetical to American values? Using the most powerful pulpit in the land to incite violence – against ANYONE. Want to define disgraceful behavior? Denigrating a man like Senator John McCain’s service and heroism while you sat home.

Want to respect the American flag? Then respect the ideals for which it stands. Bullying language and calling peaceful protesters “sons of bitches” who should be fired aren’t among them.

p..s. anyone wishing to share this, please feel free.

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I really don't see the big deal here. If the employer is ok with it... it's ok. The blow back is fine too.

Ya gotta love freedom. Now let's use the same standards for free speech on college campuses.

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PkrBum wrote:I really don't see the big deal here. If the employer is ok with it... it's ok. The blow back is fine too.

Ya gotta love freedom. Now let's use the same standards for free speech on college campuses.

Employer or no employer, these players were exercising their right to PEACEFUL PROTEST. That right does not extend to parades with torches, swastikas and guns.

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Floridatexan wrote:
PkrBum wrote:I really don't see the big deal here. If the employer is ok with it... it's ok. The blow back is fine too.

Ya gotta love freedom. Now let's use the same standards for free speech on college campuses.

Employer or no employer, these players were exercising their right to PEACEFUL PROTEST.  That right does not extend to parades with torches, swastikas and guns.

I've never protested at work. Have you? I'd imagine that it'd get you fired pretty quick at most jobs.

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It's funny to me that people somehow think that a football player's job is to stand up for some fucking ceremony.   That's not part of anybody's job that I ever heard of.  Whose occupation is flag-saluter?

When they decide to take a knee instead of catching a pass or blocking a tackle, then their protesting would interfere with their job.   But nobody's getting paid to salute a damn thing.  It's a moron's argument.

Every Christmas at work we have a party, and during that party people pray.  I don't, because I don't believe in religion and I'm not going to pretend that I do just to help them maintain their game of make-believe.  I'm not "protesting," I'm just not participating in something I find silly.  But, even though prayer really has no place at the office, I don't try to stop them from doing it -- I just politely wait for them to be done, because it makes them happy and it's no big deal to me to wait quietly for thirty seconds or so.  I'm not infringing on their right to do as they wish... and they have no right to demand that I do as they do, which would be a joke, anyway, because even if I played along I wouldn't believe in their Jesus-Santy-Claus stuff.  I don't know why it'd even make them feel comforted because they'd know I'd only be placating them, like pretending you see a child's imaginary friend.  But, it's never been an issue.  I'm polite, they're not unreasonable, the whole procedure's painless.

It's no different for the athletes who are taking a knee during the pledge.  It doesn't foul things up for anyone else if they sit it out.  They aren't interfering with anyone else who does want to stand for it, they aren't stopping you... so, I'm not sure anyone really has a right to fucking complain or get angry.   Why do people get so furious that they aren't conforming to what you want to do?  If you actually like freedom, then you support these people's right to take a knee if they want to... and you'd oppose anyone who tries to force them to do so.

That's it, flat-out, bottom line, and any other stance is pure, uncut 190-proof horseshit.

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