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Mueller's noose tightens. If Trump pardons all who are convicted, there are States ready to file charges!

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RealLindaL
Deus X
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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Consider: If Mueller's team tries and convicts Trump's kids or close associates for Russian collusion and/or abuse of justice, Trump can and probably will pardon them. And then, there are several States gearing up to charge the same assholes -- and Trump will have no power whatever against State prosecutors. Isn't that lovely?!!!

Trump and his offspring and associates can luxuriate in a State prison instead of a Federal hoosegow.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

Deus X

Deus X

Does double jeopardy apply here? That's an honest question, by the way.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Deus X wrote:Does double jeopardy apply here? That's an honest question, by the way.

This was discussed on CNN yesterday. The answer given was that federal charges take precedence and state prosecutors will not charge a defendant convicted by a federal court. However, once a presidential pardon is issued, the federal conviction has been eliminated, leaving the door open to state prosecution.

RealLindaL



Wordslinger wrote:
Deus X wrote:Does double jeopardy apply here? That's an honest question, by the way.

This was discussed on CNN yesterday.  The answer given was  that federal charges take precedence and state prosecutors will not charge a defendant convicted by a federal court.  However, once a presidential pardon is issued, the federal conviction has been eliminated, leaving the door open to state prosecution.  

That's what I understand too, Word. And let's not look past the obvious reason for this tactic -- to 'encourage' the guilty to expose the crimes of others (especially those above them - ahem), since their hope of pardon will be all but quashed.

PkrBum

PkrBum

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:


It figures since we are now led by the biggest clown of all time, that you would respond with a clown theme. But unlike your memorialized clowns (Ringling Bros. is dead now), the one in the White House is real -- and shaking in his Gucci boots.

Q: Will he be able to take a crap on a toilet with no seat at all?


LOL

Telstar

Telstar

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:


It figures since we are now led by the biggest clown of all time, that you would respond with a clown theme.  But unlike your memorialized clowns (Ringling Bros. is dead now), the one in the White House is real -- and shaking in his Gucci boots.

Q: Will he be able to take a crap on a toilet with no seat at all?


LOL







Mueller's noose tightens. If Trump pardons all who are convicted, there are States ready to file charges! Trump_13

polecat

polecat

Wordslinger wrote:
PkrBum wrote:


It figures since we are now led by the biggest clown of all time, that you would respond with a clown theme.  But unlike your memorialized clowns (Ringling Bros. is dead now), the one in the White House is real -- and shaking in his Gucci boots.

Q: Will he be able to take a crap on a toilet with no seat at all?


LOL

I wonder what feels colder on the ass stainless steel or gold plated

polecat

polecat

If a president has been impeached does he lose his power to pardon?

Telstar

Telstar

polecat wrote:If a president has been impeached does he lose his power to pardon?





Or even pussygrab?

PkrBum

PkrBum

polecat wrote:If a president has been impeached does he lose his power to pardon?

Impeached for what? Exactly?

Telstar

Telstar

PkrBum wrote:
polecat wrote:If a president has been impeached does he lose his power to pardon?

Impeached for what? Exactly?





Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:
polecat wrote:If a president has been impeached does he lose his power to pardon?

Impeached for what? Exactly?

Collusion with Russian agents to manipulate our national election, obstruction of justice, lying to congress, for starters.

Deus X

Deus X

Fraud, self-dealing and conflict of interest for starters. I'm sure once Mueller shakes loose some financial stuff, lots more will tumble out.

He wouldn't have asked aides about pardoning himself if he didn't know he was guilty of some serious shit.

polecat

polecat

PkrBum wrote:
polecat wrote:If a president has been impeached does he lose his power to pardon?

Impeached for what? Exactly?

I'll go there...
How about blow jobs and or money laundering  for $600 Alex.

PkrBum

PkrBum

Lol... y'all are a hot mess.

You apparently haven't been paying attention to the latest results of the govt investigating itself.

Telstar

Telstar

PkrBum wrote: Lol... y'all are a hot mess.

You apparently haven't been paying attention to the latest results of the govt investigating itself.




Pop another pill penis head.

polecat

polecat

PkrBum wrote: Lol... y'all are a hot mess.

You apparently haven't been paying attention to the latest results of the govt investigating itself.

So is that a yes or no?

PkrBum

PkrBum

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/31/fbi-comey-clinton-email-242213

GOP senators: Comey drafted statement clearing Clinton before her interview

Former FBI Director James Comey began drafting a statement rejecting the idea of criminal charges against Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton over her private email account about two months or more before Clinton was interviewed in the FBI probe, according to partial transcripts of interviews released Thursday by two Republican senators.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley and Sen. Lindsey Graham said they obtained the transcripts from the Office of Special Counsel, a government watchdog agency that launched an investigation into whether Comey's actions violated a federal law against government employees engaging in political activity while on duty.

In a letter sent Wednesday to Comey's successor, FBI Director Christopher Wray, Grassley and Graham said Comey's move to start preparing the statement sometime in April or early May reflected a premature conclusion that Clinton shouldn't be charged.

"Conclusion first, fact-gathering second—that’s no way to run an investigation. The FBI should be held to a higher standard than that, especially in a matter of such great public interest and controversy," Grassley and Graham wrote as they demanded all FBI records of the drafts Comey prepared as well as other materials related to the OSC probe.

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Wordslinger wrote:Consider: If Mueller's team tries and convicts Trump's kids or close associates for Russian collusion and/or abuse of justice, Trump can and probably will pardon them.  And then, there are several States gearing up to charge the same assholes -- and Trump will have no power whatever against State prosecutors.  Isn't that lovely?!!!

Trump and his offspring and associates can luxuriate in a State prison instead of a Federal hoosegow.  

Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

That'll happen about the time your witch Hillary does the same.

Deus X

Deus X

Wordslinger wrote:Trump and his offspring and associates can luxuriate in a State prison instead of a Federal hoosegow.  

ATTICA! ATTICA!

Who-o-o Doggie! This is gonna be fun to watch!

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