N. Korea a real threat, or are we being lied to??

panhandler wrote:NK is an excuse for tRump to show he's tough and protecting us from evil.
Imaginary as that might be.

2seaoat wrote:The problem is the Military Industrial Complex which Ike faced as the Korean war cooled down had become a threat which he warned the American people.  We immediately replace the French Colonial regime in South Viet Nam, and ten years later we have 50k plus dead Americans and a million dead Vietnamese.  No truce and withdrawal from Korea because it would be seen as losing face, as Korean and Japanese companies without paying for their full defense dumped products in the American markets below cost as factory after factory closed.

We then fight a war in the Middle East to protect the corrupt Saudi regime and Western Oil interests as MIC printed money as not too much later we were in a 16 year war which killed millions of innocents, and the problem in Korea is North Korea.   The problem in Korea is an antiquated strategic plan for defending American interests.   Anybody who thinks killing millions to stop the Russians and Chinese from creating another nuclear nation in this world is as boneheaded stupid as our policies and military deployments have been for fifty years.

The Chinese warned us in the Korean War to stop our advances on the Peninsula and in our arrogance we ignored the same.   The Chinese have told us not to provoke war, and although there is no monolithic communist threat, our aggressive actions in this region are going to create a formidable alliance against America which has dire consequences which have been totally avoidable with learned and educated leadership.   We are playing Russian Roulette with four bullets in the chamber where there will be no winner.

Where is Ronald Reagan where we need a common sense cut and run.  Negotiate a peace which involves removing the threat from Korea to the North Koreans and Chinese.   Now is the perfect time because South Koreans do not want their children sacrificed in some kind of sophomoric macho game of chicken.

2seaoat wrote:The problem is the Military Industrial Complex which Ike faced as the Korean war cooled down had become a threat which he warned the American people.  We immediately replace the French Colonial regime in South Viet Nam, and ten years later we have 50k plus dead Americans and a million dead Vietnamese.  No truce and withdrawal from Korea because it would be seen as losing face, as Korean and Japanese companies without paying for their full defense dumped products in the American markets below cost as factory after factory closed.

We then fight a war in the Middle East to protect the corrupt Saudi regime and Western Oil interests as MIC printed money as not too much later we were in a 16 year war which killed millions of innocents, and the problem in Korea is North Korea.   The problem in Korea is an antiquated strategic plan for defending American interests.   Anybody who thinks killing millions to stop the Russians and Chinese from creating another nuclear nation in this world is as boneheaded stupid as our policies and military deployments have been for fifty years.

The Chinese warned us in the Korean War to stop our advances on the Peninsula and in our arrogance we ignored the same.   The Chinese have told us not to provoke war, and although there is no monolithic communist threat, our aggressive actions in this region are going to create a formidable alliance against America which has dire consequences which have been totally avoidable with learned and educated leadership.   We are playing Russian Roulette with four bullets in the chamber where there will be no winner.

Where is Ronald Reagan where we need a common sense cut and run.  Negotiate a peace which involves removing the threat from Korea to the North Koreans and Chinese.   Now is the perfect time because South Koreans do not want their children sacrificed in some kind of sophomoric macho game of chicken.

Joanimaroni wrote:

2seaoat wrote:The problem is the Military Industrial Complex which Ike faced as the Korean war cooled down had become a threat which he warned the American people.  We immediately replace the French Colonial regime in South Viet Nam, and ten years later we have 50k plus dead Americans and a million dead Vietnamese.  No truce and withdrawal from Korea because it would be seen as losing face, as Korean and Japanese companies without paying for their full defense dumped products in the American markets below cost as factory after factory closed.

We then fight a war in the Middle East to protect the corrupt Saudi regime and Western Oil interests as MIC printed money as not too much later we were in a 16 year war which killed millions of innocents, and the problem in Korea is North Korea.   The problem in Korea is an antiquated strategic plan for defending American interests.   Anybody who thinks killing millions to stop the Russians and Chinese from creating another nuclear nation in this world is as boneheaded stupid as our policies and military deployments have been for fifty years.

The Chinese warned us in the Korean War to stop our advances on the Peninsula and in our arrogance we ignored the same.   The Chinese have told us not to provoke war, and although there is no monolithic communist threat, our aggressive actions in this region are going to create a formidable alliance against America which has dire consequences which have been totally avoidable with learned and educated leadership.   We are playing Russian Roulette with four bullets in the chamber where there will be no winner.

Where is Ronald Reagan where we need a common sense cut and run.  Negotiate a peace which involves removing the threat from Korea to the North Koreans and Chinese.   Now is the perfect time because South Koreans do not want their children sacrificed in some kind of sophomoric macho game of chicken.

Now is the perfect time because South Koreans do not want their children sacrificed in some kind of sophomoric macho game of chicken.

The South Koreans told you this?

The Koreas are not at peace. How would you remove the threat?

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

2seaoat wrote:The problem is the Military Industrial Complex which Ike faced as the Korean war cooled down had become a threat which he warned the American people.  We immediately replace the French Colonial regime in South Viet Nam, and ten years later we have 50k plus dead Americans and a million dead Vietnamese.  No truce and withdrawal from Korea because it would be seen as losing face, as Korean and Japanese companies without paying for their full defense dumped products in the American markets below cost as factory after factory closed.

We then fight a war in the Middle East to protect the corrupt Saudi regime and Western Oil interests as MIC printed money as not too much later we were in a 16 year war which killed millions of innocents, and the problem in Korea is North Korea.   The problem in Korea is an antiquated strategic plan for defending American interests.   Anybody who thinks killing millions to stop the Russians and Chinese from creating another nuclear nation in this world is as boneheaded stupid as our policies and military deployments have been for fifty years.

The Chinese warned us in the Korean War to stop our advances on the Peninsula and in our arrogance we ignored the same.   The Chinese have told us not to provoke war, and although there is no monolithic communist threat, our aggressive actions in this region are going to create a formidable alliance against America which has dire consequences which have been totally avoidable with learned and educated leadership.   We are playing Russian Roulette with four bullets in the chamber where there will be no winner.

Where is Ronald Reagan where we need a common sense cut and run.  Negotiate a peace which involves removing the threat from Korea to the North Koreans and Chinese.   Now is the perfect time because South Koreans do not want their children sacrificed in some kind of sophomoric macho game of chicken.

Now is the perfect time because South Koreans do not want their children sacrificed in some kind of sophomoric macho game of chicken.

The South Koreans told you this?

The Koreas are not at peace. How would you remove the threat?

What has driven Kim Jong Un to the brink of nuclear war?  We've threatened N. Korea since 1954.  What the black prince of N. Korea wants is to survive ... and that's all he wants.  If we had simply let him be he would have had no need of nuclear weapons.  We are and have been his biggest threat.  How would I remove the threat?  Offer him a guarantee of no first strike if he stands down.  Bada bock, badda boom.  

Joanimaroni wrote:
He wants power, control, and to be feared. He does not want to just be an ordinary survivor. He plays with his weapons and makes threats...he wants a show down. He believes his own propaganda.

Joanimaroni wrote:He wants power, control, and to be feared. He does not want to just be an ordinary survivor. He plays with his weapons and makes threats...he wants a show down. He believes his own propaganda.

RealLindaL wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:He wants power, control, and to be feared. He does not want to just be an ordinary survivor. He plays with his weapons and makes threats...he wants a show down. He believes his own propaganda.

He told you all this?

Joanimaroni wrote: We had a very long conversation for such a short man.

Deus X wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote: We had a very long conversation for such a short man.

Are you trying to say you went down on him?

Joanimaroni wrote:BTW....how many names are you going to use?

Deus X wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:BTW....how many names are you going to use?

How come you never asked that question of your banned little acolyte and suckbuddy Pdawg?

You're the WORST moderator EVER!

Joanimaroni wrote:Come on Bill. Get a grip....stay on topic without introducing your nastiness. One day you need to grow up and act like a man.

Deus X wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote: We had a very long conversation for such a short man.

Are you trying to say you went down on him?

Joanimaroni wrote:

Wordslinger wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

2seaoat wrote:The problem is the Military Industrial Complex which Ike faced as the Korean war cooled down had become a threat which he warned the American people.  We immediately replace the French Colonial regime in South Viet Nam, and ten years later we have 50k plus dead Americans and a million dead Vietnamese.  No truce and withdrawal from Korea because it would be seen as losing face, as Korean and Japanese companies without paying for their full defense dumped products in the American markets below cost as factory after factory closed.

We then fight a war in the Middle East to protect the corrupt Saudi regime and Western Oil interests as MIC printed money as not too much later we were in a 16 year war which killed millions of innocents, and the problem in Korea is North Korea.   The problem in Korea is an antiquated strategic plan for defending American interests.   Anybody who thinks killing millions to stop the Russians and Chinese from creating another nuclear nation in this world is as boneheaded stupid as our policies and military deployments have been for fifty years.

The Chinese warned us in the Korean War to stop our advances on the Peninsula and in our arrogance we ignored the same.   The Chinese have told us not to provoke war, and although there is no monolithic communist threat, our aggressive actions in this region are going to create a formidable alliance against America which has dire consequences which have been totally avoidable with learned and educated leadership.   We are playing Russian Roulette with four bullets in the chamber where there will be no winner.

Where is Ronald Reagan where we need a common sense cut and run.  Negotiate a peace which involves removing the threat from Korea to the North Koreans and Chinese.   Now is the perfect time because South Koreans do not want their children sacrificed in some kind of sophomoric macho game of chicken.

Now is the perfect time because South Koreans do not want their children sacrificed in some kind of sophomoric macho game of chicken.

The South Koreans told you this?

The Koreas are not at peace. How would you remove the threat?

What has driven Kim Jong Un to the brink of nuclear war?  We've threatened N. Korea since 1954.  What the black prince of N. Korea wants is to survive ... and that's all he wants.  If we had simply let him be he would have had no need of nuclear weapons.  We are and have been his biggest threat.  How would I remove the threat?  Offer him a guarantee of no first strike if he stands down.  Bada bock, badda boom.  

He wants power, control, and to be feared. He does not want to just be an ordinary survivor. He plays with his weapons and makes threats...he wants a show down. He believes his own propaganda.