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Trump has business interests in Egypt and Saudi Arabia ... is that why their fanatical Islamists aren't banned?

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

The Muslim Brotherhood which wields so much power in Egypt hates infidels like the U.S. as much as the Wahabbi assholes of Saudi Arabia -- in fact, not a single major act of terrorism against the United States was accomplished by any Iranian, Syrian, Iraqi, etc.

There is credible evidence, however, that Saudi Arabia's leaders helped finance the 9-11 hijackers who brought down the Twin Towers.

Q: Were Trump's ban-these-country decisions made in conformance with his personal business interests? Sure looks that way ...

Guest


Guest

Did the Muslim brotherhood relationship with the Obama administration bother you?

2seaoat



Did the Muslim brotherhood relationship with the Obama administration bother you?


Please describe your understanding of that alleged relationship? Are you in support of the status quo in the Middle East which reinforces colonial autocratic governments who have exploited the people of the middle east? What will democracy look like in the middle east?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

PkrBum wrote:Did the Muslim brotherhood relationship with the Obama administration bother you?


Yes, absolutely. And I wrote about it in this forum several times. I've protested Obama and Bush's constant coddling of King Salman. Saudi Arabia and Egypt are not our friends and never have been. They need our money and our military forces to defend their own tyranny, and because we have oil interests and strategic interests (airfields, bases, etc.) that we need, we're willing to kiss their Islamic asses.

Now tell me why I'm wrong, which is your main interest in life evidently. . .

Guest


Guest

I don't think you're wrong. I was just making sure you were being objective... most aren't.

See: Seagoat

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Wordslinger wrote:The Muslim Brotherhood which wields so much power in Egypt hates infidels like the U.S. as much as the Wahabbi assholes of Saudi Arabia -- in fact, not a single major act of terrorism against the United States was accomplished by any Iranian, Syrian, Iraqi, etc.

There is credible evidence, however, that Saudi Arabia's leaders helped finance the 9-11 hijackers who brought down the Twin Towers.

Q:  Were Trump's ban-these-country decisions made in conformance with his personal business interests?  Sure looks that way ...


Because Saudi Arabia has and has had a security agreement with the US where we are actually able to vet people unlike Syria. Somalia etc.  This is a temporary move to assess our vetting process,  it is in our best interest. Is that to hard for you to understand?


In 2011 the US discovered Al-Qaeda terrorists living as refugees in Kentucky.


As a result of this discovery the Obama administration blocked all Iraqi refugees from entering the US for six months.
There were no protests.
The left said nothing.
ABC reported:
As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.

dumpcare



They interviewed an Egyptian and his family at I believe an Egyptian airport on the news last night, quit his job, sold his house had visa's in hand and they would not let him leave Egypt. I know the ban is not on him.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

I saw that...

dumpcare



Made a mistake about that guy he and his family had a lay over from Iraq in Cairo and they pulled him off the plane, but he had worked for our military in Iraq.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:The Muslim Brotherhood which wields so much power in Egypt hates infidels like the U.S. as much as the Wahabbi assholes of Saudi Arabia -- in fact, not a single major act of terrorism against the United States was accomplished by any Iranian, Syrian, Iraqi, etc.

There is credible evidence, however, that Saudi Arabia's leaders helped finance the 9-11 hijackers who brought down the Twin Towers.

Q:  Were Trump's ban-these-country decisions made in conformance with his personal business interests?  Sure looks that way ...

You don't know the TRUE reason behind those seven countries, do you? Or that the list will be expanded?

dumpcare



Because Obama put them on the list to watch.

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

ppaca wrote:Made a mistake about that guy he and his family had a lay over from Iraq in Cairo and they pulled him off the plane, but he had worked for our military in Iraq.


Obama's ban 6 month ban excluded an Iraqi man that worked in connection with US troops and provided intelligence for us. He had been approved to enter the US but because of Obama's ban he couldn't leave and was executed in Iraq.

13Trump has business interests in Egypt and Saudi Arabia ... is that why their fanatical Islamists aren't banned? Empty Obama: Anti-Anti-Terrorist 1/29/2017, 9:31 pm

Markle

Markle

Then again...there are these FACTS about petulant former President Obama. Obama looked at the Muslim Brotherhood...as a brotherhood for himself.

Obama: Anti-Anti-Terrorist

by ANDREW C. MCCARTHY June 18, 2016 4:00 AM @ANDREWCMCCARTHY

Unlock Free Digital Access Sharia supremacists are not only shielded from scrutiny by U.S. intelligence but welcomed into the national-security apparatus.

Barack Obama has spent his presidency cultivating Islamists, particularly from the international Muslim Brotherhood and its affiliates in the United States. As we saw this week, he chafes at the term “radical Islam” — as do his Islamist advisers. At their insistence, he had instructional materials for training government agents purged of references to Islamic terms that illuminate the nexus between Muslim doctrine and jihadist terror.

Obama’s vaunted national-security strategy, “Countering Violent Extremism,” is Orwellian. The term CVE supplants identification of our jihadist enemies with the woolly notion that “violence” can be caused by any form of “extremism” — it has nothing to do with Islam. By transferring security responsibilities from government intelligence agents to Muslim “community leaders” (often, Islamist groups), CVE actually encourages violent extremism.

These steps have been reckless. They have made our nation more vulnerable to the kind of jihadist atrocities we saw last weekend in Orlando. So obvious is this that many Obama critics have gone from thinking the unthinkable to saying it aloud: The president of the United States seems to be intentionally betraying our national security; even if not squarely on the side of the terrorists, Obama is such an apologist for their Islamist grievances that he might as well be.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436783/obama-muslim-brotherhood-terrorism-radical-islam-violent-extremism

If anyone questions President Obama's reluctance to fight terrorist groups, simply look at how the number of fatal Islamist terrorist attacks have skyrocketed under his reign...for terror.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:If anyone questions President Obama's reluctance to fight terrorist groups, simply look at how the number of fatal Islamist terrorist attacks have skyrocketed under his reign...for terror.

Nothing will ever top the 3,000 Americans who died on Bush's watch on 9/11/2001.

Of course, Lame Dork Poster Markle blames that MASSIVE attack on Bill Clinton. It happened on Bush's watch, so he owns it. Just like Trump will own it if any such thing happens during his presidency.

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Markle

Markle

It took three times but petulant former President Obama finally gave the green light to the killing of Osama bin Laden.

We also know that indispensable information was provided to U.S. intelligence by a doctor working undercover to provide specific information on his location.

The U.S. had the intelligence and logistics to know the Doctor would be at grave risk and COULD have evacuated the doctor and his family. However, we did NOT.

Still today!

Pakistan will not free doctor who helped US find Osama bin Laden
Updated: Jan 18, 2017 19:45 IST

A jailed Pakistani doctor believed to have helped the CIA hunt down al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden will be neither released nor handed to the United States, Pakistan’s law minister has told legislators, media reported on Wednesday.

Dr Shakil Afridi, hailed as a hero by US officials, was arrested after US forces killed bin Laden in May 2011 in a secret raid in a northern Pakistani town that plunged relations between the uneasy strategic partners to a new low.

Pakistan has accused the doctor of running a fake vaccination campaign in which he collected DNA samples to help the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) confirm bin Laden’s identity.

Afridi was arrested soon after the bin Laden raid and charged with having ties to militant Islamists, which he denied.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/pakistan-will-not-free-doctor-who-helped-us-find-osama-bin-laden/story-jKqfeaOpDf5AeLXL7AjFKP.html

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:If anyone questions President Obama's reluctance to fight terrorist groups, simply look at how the number of fatal Islamist terrorist attacks have skyrocketed under his reign...for terror.

Nothing will ever top the 3,000 Americans who died on Bush's watch on 9/11/2001.

Of course, Lame Dork Poster Markle blames that MASSIVE attack on Bill Clinton. It happened on Bush's watch, so he owns it. Just like Trump will own it if any such thing happens during his presidency.

Casualties of the Syrian Civil War
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Doctors and medical staff treating injured rebel fighters and civilians in Aleppo
Estimates of deaths in the Syrian Civil War, per opposition activist groups, vary between 312,001[1] and 470,000.[2] On 23 April 2016, the United Nations and Arab League Envoy to Syria put out an estimate of 400,000 that had died in the war.[3]

UNICEF reported that over 500 children had been killed by early February 2012.[4][5] Another 400 children were reportedly arrested and tortured in Syrian prisons.[6][7] Both claims have been contested by the Syrian government.[8] Additionally, over 600 detainees and political prisoners died under torture.[9] The United Nations stated that by the end of April 2014, 8,803 children had been killed,[10] while the Oxford Research Group said that a total of 11,420 children died in the conflict by late November 2013.[11] By mid-December 2016, the opposition activist group Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) reported the number of children killed in the conflict had risen to 15,948, while at the same time 10,540 women were also killed.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War

Here we have the result of petulant former President Obama's catastrophic decisions.

Telstar

Telstar

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:If anyone questions President Obama's reluctance to fight terrorist groups, simply look at how the number of fatal Islamist terrorist attacks have skyrocketed under his reign...for terror.

Nothing will ever top the 3,000 Americans who died on Bush's watch on 9/11/2001.

Of course, Lame Dork Poster Markle blames that MASSIVE attack on Bill Clinton. It happened on Bush's watch, so he owns it. Just like Trump will own it if any such thing happens during his presidency.


ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

How many fatal terrorist attacks have involved refugees? None.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/us/refugee-terrorism-trnd/index.html

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Markle

Markle

ppaca wrote:Because Obama put them on the list to watch.

Very good! I'm impressed.

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:How many fatal terrorist attacks have involved refugees? None.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/us/refugee-terrorism-trnd/index.html

Islamic State finds success infiltrating its terrorists into refugee flows to West
By Rowan Scarborough - The Washington Times
Sunday, January 29, 2017

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/29/isis-finds-success-infiltrating-terrorists-into-re/

How many crimes and assaults have been committed by those same refugees?

Germany's migrant crisis: Refugees committed more than 200,000 crimes last year

REFUGEES in Germany committed 92,000 more offences in the country last year than in 2014, according to official figures.

By ALLAN HALL
PUBLISHED: 00:00, Wed, Feb 17, 2016 | UPDATED: 09:35, Wed, Feb 17, 2016

[...]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/644827/refugees-committed-crimes-Germany-migrant-crisis-last-year

I feel terrible for these people. They are victims of their own, brutal dictatorship and the massive failure of petulant former President Obama who refused to do the right thing, who shirked his duty when it counted most. THEY want to go home and we should now do all we can to help them.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:Then again...there are these FACTS about petulant former President Obama.  Obama looked at the Muslim Brotherhood...as a brotherhood for himself.

Obama: Anti-Anti-Terrorist

by ANDREW C. MCCARTHY June 18, 2016 4:00 AM @ANDREWCMCCARTHY

Unlock Free Digital Access Sharia supremacists are not only shielded from scrutiny by U.S. intelligence but welcomed into the national-security apparatus.

Barack Obama has spent his presidency cultivating Islamists, particularly from the international Muslim Brotherhood and its affiliates in the United States. As we saw this week, he chafes at the term “radical Islam” — as do his Islamist advisers. At their insistence, he had instructional materials for training government agents purged of references to Islamic terms that illuminate the nexus between Muslim doctrine and jihadist terror.

Obama’s vaunted national-security strategy, “Countering Violent Extremism,” is Orwellian. The term CVE supplants identification of our jihadist enemies with the woolly notion that “violence” can be caused by any form of “extremism” — it has nothing to do with Islam. By transferring security responsibilities from government intelligence agents to Muslim “community leaders” (often, Islamist groups), CVE actually encourages violent extremism.

These steps have been reckless. They have made our nation more vulnerable to the kind of jihadist atrocities we saw last weekend in Orlando. So obvious is this that many Obama critics have gone from thinking the unthinkable to saying it aloud: The president of the United States seems to be intentionally betraying our national security; even if not squarely on the side of the terrorists, Obama is such an apologist for their Islamist grievances that he might as well be.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436783/obama-muslim-brotherhood-terrorism-radical-islam-violent-extremism

If anyone questions President Obama's reluctance to fight terrorist groups, simply look at how the number of fatal Islamist terrorist attacks have skyrocketed under his reign...for terror.


Once again, unable to defend the Pussy Grabber with the dead rat on his head, Markle veers off to attack former administrations. Why are we not surprised?

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Countries where the Trump Organization has established business ties or has been negotiating to invest in properties or property development:

Turkey
Egypt
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates

See: http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/41661-trumps-immigration-ban-excludes-countries-with-business-ties

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:Then again...there are these FACTS about petulant former President Obama.  Obama looked at the Muslim Brotherhood...as a brotherhood for himself.

Obama: Anti-Anti-Terrorist

by ANDREW C. MCCARTHY June 18, 2016 4:00 AM @ANDREWCMCCARTHY

Unlock Free Digital Access Sharia supremacists are not only shielded from scrutiny by U.S. intelligence but welcomed into the national-security apparatus.

Barack Obama has spent his presidency cultivating Islamists, particularly from the international Muslim Brotherhood and its affiliates in the United States. As we saw this week, he chafes at the term “radical Islam” — as do his Islamist advisers. At their insistence, he had instructional materials for training government agents purged of references to Islamic terms that illuminate the nexus between Muslim doctrine and jihadist terror.

Obama’s vaunted national-security strategy, “Countering Violent Extremism,” is Orwellian. The term CVE supplants identification of our jihadist enemies with the woolly notion that “violence” can be caused by any form of “extremism” — it has nothing to do with Islam. By transferring security responsibilities from government intelligence agents to Muslim “community leaders” (often, Islamist groups), CVE actually encourages violent extremism.

These steps have been reckless. They have made our nation more vulnerable to the kind of jihadist atrocities we saw last weekend in Orlando. So obvious is this that many Obama critics have gone from thinking the unthinkable to saying it aloud: The president of the United States seems to be intentionally betraying our national security; even if not squarely on the side of the terrorists, Obama is such an apologist for their Islamist grievances that he might as well be.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436783/obama-muslim-brotherhood-terrorism-radical-islam-violent-extremism

If anyone questions President Obama's reluctance to fight terrorist groups, simply look at how the number of fatal Islamist terrorist attacks have skyrocketed under his reign...for terror.


Once again, unable to defend the Pussy Grabber with the dead rat on his head, Markle veers off to attack former administrations.  Why are we not surprised?

Nothing to defend President Donald Trump about. Grow up.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:Then again...there are these FACTS about petulant former President Obama.  Obama looked at the Muslim Brotherhood...as a brotherhood for himself.

Obama: Anti-Anti-Terrorist

by ANDREW C. MCCARTHY June 18, 2016 4:00 AM @ANDREWCMCCARTHY

Unlock Free Digital Access Sharia supremacists are not only shielded from scrutiny by U.S. intelligence but welcomed into the national-security apparatus.

Barack Obama has spent his presidency cultivating Islamists, particularly from the international Muslim Brotherhood and its affiliates in the United States. As we saw this week, he chafes at the term “radical Islam” — as do his Islamist advisers. At their insistence, he had instructional materials for training government agents purged of references to Islamic terms that illuminate the nexus between Muslim doctrine and jihadist terror.

Obama’s vaunted national-security strategy, “Countering Violent Extremism,” is Orwellian. The term CVE supplants identification of our jihadist enemies with the woolly notion that “violence” can be caused by any form of “extremism” — it has nothing to do with Islam. By transferring security responsibilities from government intelligence agents to Muslim “community leaders” (often, Islamist groups), CVE actually encourages violent extremism.

These steps have been reckless. They have made our nation more vulnerable to the kind of jihadist atrocities we saw last weekend in Orlando. So obvious is this that many Obama critics have gone from thinking the unthinkable to saying it aloud: The president of the United States seems to be intentionally betraying our national security; even if not squarely on the side of the terrorists, Obama is such an apologist for their Islamist grievances that he might as well be.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436783/obama-muslim-brotherhood-terrorism-radical-islam-violent-extremism

If anyone questions President Obama's reluctance to fight terrorist groups, simply look at how the number of fatal Islamist terrorist attacks have skyrocketed under his reign...for terror.


Once again, unable to defend the Pussy Grabber with the dead rat on his head, Markle veers off to attack former administrations.  Why are we not surprised?

Nothing to defend President Donald Trump about.  Grow up.


That's your best shot? You better run to your grey-haired wanna be tough individuals biker club. Where do you guys carry your canes? LOL

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