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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

This woman's spirit and courage inspire me:

"
I Will Never Apologize for My Identity Politics
Go ahead and accuse me of focusing on race in lieu of class. I do not feel a moment's guilt.
By Ijeoma Oluo / The Establishment
January 6, 2017



The other day on Twitter, a man posted a picture of my coloring book he’d given his daughter for Christmas. He was excited to give her a coloring book full of badass intersectional feminists. He wanted to thank me for creating it.

“I don’t know,” chimed in a random stranger (because Twitter), “Sounds like identity politics to me.”

Hell yeah it does.

“Identity Politics” is now thrown about as an insult at many progressive activists. Critics say that Identity Politics make everything about gender, everything about sexuality, and everything about race. And to this I say: yes, yes, and hell yes.

Call it what you want. I don’t care. Complain that we’re making shit about race — you know what? We are. Complain that we’re keeping the left from focusing only on class — yup, and proudly so. Complain all you want because I am not and will never be ashamed of focusing on the politics of identity. I will not feel a moment’s guilt for slowing this whole train down to make sure that everyone can get on and we’re on the right track. I will proudly own up to making shit hard for you.

Thank god for Identity Politics.

* * *

You know why? Because you know what we had before Identity Politics? I’ll tell you.

We had White Dudes.

We had white dudes as the pinnacles of power. We had white dudes on all our TV screens, we had white dudes reporting all our news, we had white dudes writing all our books. Sometimes they were accompanied by attractive white ladies (as all the white dudes were straight). But mostly, we had white dudes.

And if you were not a white dude? You didn’t exist. Laws were not written for you, infrastructure was not built for you, history was not written about you. You did not exist in film, television, or novels. You were not a part of the American dream.

And do you know what has been changing all of that? Do you know what has been saving this country from the monotony and tyranny of white, cis, heterosexual dudes? Identity Politics.

Identity Politics are everything that its critics fear. Identity Politics are decentralizing whiteness, straightness, cis-ness, and maleness. Identity Politics brought you equal marriage, the voting rights act, and abortion access. Identity Politics has got people believing that black is beautiful, that disability is nothing to be ashamed of, that fat people deserve respect, that a woman can say no. Identity politics are forcing the world to consider what it has spent hundreds of years ignoring — everyone else.

* * *

Without Identity Politics, we wouldn’t all get along better, we’d just cease to exist. And know, that is primarily what those who decry Identity Politics want. They want the world of the past, where we existed in the shadows, where they never had to consider race or gender, because everything was only about their race and gender. They want a world where nobody raised a hand and said “what about me,” because the only people allowed in the room were those whose needs had already been meet. They want the simplicity and power that comes with being the default.

So yes, Identity Politics are the threat to both the right and the left that its enemies are making it out to be. Because our system is still mostly white dudes, on both sides of the aisle. Their fear isn’t wrong; Identity Politics do threaten their way of life and their idea of progress and unity. Identity Politics will tear down everything they have built because everything they have built is oppressive and exclusionary and wrong.

We are not going back to a time where we were overlooked, dismissed, invalidated, and discounted. We are not going back to not existing. Our Identity Politics are here to stay."

Well Markle, it's perfectly clear. As a vociferous, cantankerous old white Christian conservative male, no wonder you consider Black Lives Matter as such a threat!!

Telstar

Telstar

Wordslinger wrote:This woman's spirit and courage inspire me:

"
I Will Never Apologize for My Identity Politics
Go ahead and accuse me of focusing on race in lieu of class. I do not feel a moment's guilt.
By Ijeoma Oluo / The Establishment
January 6, 2017



The other day on Twitter, a man posted a picture of my coloring book he’d given his daughter for Christmas. He was excited to give her a coloring book full of badass intersectional feminists. He wanted to thank me for creating it.

“I don’t know,” chimed in a random stranger (because Twitter), “Sounds like identity politics to me.”

Hell yeah it does.

“Identity Politics” is now thrown about as an insult at many progressive activists. Critics say that Identity Politics make everything about gender, everything about sexuality, and everything about race. And to this I say: yes, yes, and hell yes.

Call it what you want. I don’t care. Complain that we’re making shit about race — you know what? We are. Complain that we’re keeping the left from focusing only on class — yup, and proudly so. Complain all you want because I am not and will never be ashamed of focusing on the politics of identity. I will not feel a moment’s guilt for slowing this whole train down to make sure that everyone can get on and we’re on the right track. I will proudly own up to making shit hard for you.

Thank god for Identity Politics.

* * *

You know why? Because you know what we had before Identity Politics? I’ll tell you.

We had White Dudes.

We had white dudes as the pinnacles of power. We had white dudes on all our TV screens, we had white dudes reporting all our news, we had white dudes writing all our books. Sometimes they were accompanied by attractive white ladies (as all the white dudes were straight). But mostly, we had white dudes.

And if you were not a white dude? You didn’t exist. Laws were not written for you, infrastructure was not built for you, history was not written about you. You did not exist in film, television, or novels. You were not a part of the American dream.

And do you know what has been changing all of that? Do you know what has been saving this country from the monotony and tyranny of white, cis, heterosexual dudes? Identity Politics.

Identity Politics are everything that its critics fear. Identity Politics are decentralizing whiteness, straightness, cis-ness, and maleness. Identity Politics brought you equal marriage, the voting rights act, and abortion access. Identity Politics has got people believing that black is beautiful, that disability is nothing to be ashamed of, that fat people deserve respect, that a woman can say no. Identity politics are forcing the world to consider what it has spent hundreds of years ignoring — everyone else.

* * *

Without Identity Politics, we wouldn’t all get along better, we’d just cease to exist. And know, that is primarily what those who decry Identity Politics want. They want the world of the past, where we existed in the shadows, where they never had to consider race or gender, because everything was only about their race and gender. They want a world where nobody raised a hand and said “what about me,” because the only people allowed in the room were those whose needs had already been meet. They want the simplicity and power that comes with being the default.

So yes, Identity Politics are the threat to both the right and the left that its enemies are making it out to be. Because our system is still mostly white dudes, on both sides of the aisle. Their fear isn’t wrong; Identity Politics do threaten their way of life and their idea of progress and unity. Identity Politics will tear down everything they have built because everything they have built is oppressive and exclusionary and wrong.

We are not going back to a time where we were overlooked, dismissed, invalidated, and discounted. We are not going back to not existing. Our Identity Politics are here to stay."

Well Markle, it's perfectly clear. As a vociferous, cantankerous old white Christian conservative male, no wonder you consider Black Lives Matter as such a threat!!


Why I support Black Lives Matter ... Make-a10

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:This woman's spirit and courage inspire me:

I Will Never Apologize for My Identity Politics
Go ahead and accuse me of focusing on race in lieu of class. I do not feel a moment's guilt.
By Ijeoma Oluo / The Establishment
January 6, 2017

[...]

Well Markle, it's perfectly clear. As a vociferous, cantankerous old white Christian conservative male, no wonder you consider Black Lives Matter as such a threat!!

Gee...perhaps I consider Black Lives Matter...BECAUSE THEY ARE A THREAT. If you can't see that they are a threat is very, very sad.







Telstar

Telstar

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:This woman's spirit and courage inspire me:

I Will Never Apologize for My Identity Politics
Go ahead and accuse me of focusing on race in lieu of class. I do not feel a moment's guilt.
By Ijeoma Oluo / The Establishment
January 6, 2017

[...]

Well Markle, it's perfectly clear. As a vociferous, cantankerous old white Christian conservative male, no wonder you consider Black Lives Matter as such a threat!!

Gee...perhaps I consider Black Lives Matter...BECAUSE THEY ARE A THREAT.  If you can't see that they are a threat is very, very sad.









Which hood is    MR. TROUBLE SHOOTER hiding under.


Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle thinks it's perfectly alright for cops to gun down black victims as often as they like. I don't, and there are millions of white Americans like me who feel the same. In fact, many of us protest with Black Lives Matter. No Markle, I don't see Black Lives Matter as a threat and never will. Get your guns, load'em and hide under your bed Mr. Racist.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:Markle thinks it's perfectly alright for cops to gun down black victims as often as they like.  [...]

Why I support Black Lives Matter ... 69d74526-818e-455c-b628-ad5ce7381bb2

Here you can see again what you love to ignore explained to you by someone other than myself. Tyrus (George Murdoch) He is the giant in the first example.



Telstar

Telstar

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Markle thinks it's perfectly alright for cops to gun down black victims as often as they like.  [...]

Why I support Black Lives Matter ... 69d74526-818e-455c-b628-ad5ce7381bb2

Here you can see again what you love to ignore explained to you by someone other than myself.  Tyrus (George Murdoch)  He is the giant in the first example.



Why I support Black Lives Matter ... Markle24

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Markle thinks it's perfectly alright for cops to gun down black victims as often as they like.  [...]

Why I support Black Lives Matter ... 69d74526-818e-455c-b628-ad5ce7381bb2

Here you can see again what you love to ignore explained to you by someone other than myself.  Tyrus (George Murdoch)  He is the giant in the first example.





Show us a credible admission by someone in authority of Black Lives Matter, that they condone the shooting of cops. We're all ears. ..

Guest


Guest

Just curious... what do you hear when they chant death threats to cops?

Markle

Markle

PkrBum wrote:Just curious... what do you hear when they chant death threats to cops?

That's a very good question! I'd like to know that as well.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Markle thinks it's perfectly alright for cops to gun down black victims as often as they like.  [...]

Why I support Black Lives Matter ... 69d74526-818e-455c-b628-ad5ce7381bb2

Here you can see again what you love to ignore explained to you by someone other than myself.  Tyrus (George Murdoch)  He is the giant in the first example.




Show us a credible admission by someone in authority of Black Lives Matter, that they condone the shooting of cops.  We're all ears. ..

As PkrBum said, what do you hear when they are chanting "PIGS IN A BLANKET, FRY 'EM LIKE BACON" AND "WHAT DO WE WANT?  DEAD COPS.  WHEN DO WE WANT 'EM, NOW".

Who are the "authority" of Black Lives Matter?  They are your group, certainly you know.



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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Markle thinks it's perfectly alright for cops to gun down black victims as often as they like.  [...]

Why I support Black Lives Matter ... 69d74526-818e-455c-b628-ad5ce7381bb2

Here you can see again what you love to ignore explained to you by someone other than myself.  Tyrus (George Murdoch)  He is the giant in the first example.




Show us a credible admission by someone in authority of Black Lives Matter, that they condone the shooting of cops.  We're all ears. ..

As PkrBum said, what do you hear when they are changing "PIGS IN A BLANKET, FRY 'EM LIKE BACON" AND "WHAT DO WE WANT?  DEAD COPS.  WHEN DO WE WANT 'EM, NOW".

Who are the "authority" of Black Lives Matter?  They are your group, certainly you know.

The whole movement is headed by an old black woman whose known as "Seesaw 3."  Masked as a sick old lady on welfare, she lives near Topeka, in a fourth floor walk-up in a project.  I gave her your address.  Here's a secret:  One of your biker buddies with the crapola logos all over his cute little vest is a Black Lives Matter assassin.  Enjoy your next ride.  

Here's what it all boils down to Markle: on my side you have outraged people, black and white, who resent being harassed, beaten, and murdered by overly cruel cops. You call them racists, but they are protesting mistreatment by cops of every skin color, including black.

On your side we have the KKK, Rudy Giuliani, and almost every Police fraternity in all the major cities of this doomed and wretchedly divided country.  

Viva La Raza. Viva Black Lives Matter!


Down with Amerika, Inc. Corporate control of our government through corrupt campaign financing.

Telstar

Telstar

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Markle thinks it's perfectly alright for cops to gun down black victims as often as they like.  [...]

Why I support Black Lives Matter ... 69d74526-818e-455c-b628-ad5ce7381bb2

Here you can see again what you love to ignore explained to you by someone other than myself.  Tyrus (George Murdoch)  He is the giant in the first example.




Show us a credible admission by someone in authority of Black Lives Matter, that they condone the shooting of cops.  We're all ears. ..

As PkrBum said, what do you hear when they are changing "PIGS IN A BLANKET, FRY 'EM LIKE BACON" AND "WHAT DO WE WANT?  DEAD COPS.  WHEN DO WE WANT 'EM, NOW".

Who are the "authority" of Black Lives Matter?  They are your group, certainly you know.

The whole movement is headed by an old black woman whose known as "Seesaw 3."  Masked as a sick old lady on welfare, she lives near Topeka, in a fourth floor walk-up in a project.  I gave her your address.  Here's a secret:  One of your biker buddies with the crapola logos all over his cute little vest is a Black Lives Matter assassin.  Enjoy your next ride.  

Here's what it all boils down to Markle: on my side you have outraged people, black and white, who resent being harassed, beaten, and murdered by overly cruel cops.  You call them racists, but they are protesting mistreatment by cops of every skin color, including black.

On your side we have the KKK, Rudy Giuliani, and almost every Police fraternity in all the major cities of this doomed and wretchedly divided country.  

Viva La Raza.  Viva Black Lives Matter!  


Down with Amerika, Inc. Corporate control of our government through corrupt campaign financing.  


Blue lives and balls matter.

Why I support Black Lives Matter ... Giulia14

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Markle thinks it's perfectly alright for cops to gun down black victims as often as they like.  [...]

Why I support Black Lives Matter ... 69d74526-818e-455c-b628-ad5ce7381bb2

Here you can see again what you love to ignore explained to you by someone other than myself.  Tyrus (George Murdoch)  He is the giant in the first example.




Show us a credible admission by someone in authority of Black Lives Matter, that they condone the shooting of cops.  We're all ears. ..

As PkrBum said, what do you hear when they are changing "PIGS IN A BLANKET, FRY 'EM LIKE BACON" AND "WHAT DO WE WANT?  DEAD COPS.  WHEN DO WE WANT 'EM, NOW".

Who are the "authority" of Black Lives Matter?  They are your group, certainly you know.

The whole movement is headed by an old black woman whose known as "Seesaw 3."  Masked as a sick old lady on welfare, she lives near Topeka, in a fourth floor walk-up in a project.  I gave her your address.  Here's a secret:  One of your biker buddies with the crapola logos all over his cute little vest is a Black Lives Matter assassin.  Enjoy your next ride.  

Here's what it all boils down to Markle: on my side you have outraged people, black and white, who resent being harassed, beaten, and murdered by overly cruel cops.  You call them racists, but they are protesting mistreatment by cops of every skin color, including black.

On your side we have the KKK, Rudy Giuliani, and almost every Police fraternity in all the major cities of this doomed and wretchedly divided country.  

Viva La Raza.  Viva Black Lives Matter!  


Down with Amerika, Inc. Corporate control of our government through corrupt campaign financing.  

Here's what it boils (water at 212 degrees f.) down to is that you have no clue.  Typical of Socialists they simply follow blindly.

Riots and murder is NOT protesting.



Last edited by Markle on 1/11/2017, 3:50 am; edited 1 time in total

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:Markle thinks it's perfectly alright for cops to gun down black victims as often as they like.  [...]

Why I support Black Lives Matter ... 69d74526-818e-455c-b628-ad5ce7381bb2

Here you can see again what you love to ignore explained to you by someone other than myself.  Tyrus (George Murdoch)  He is the giant in the first example.






Show us a credible admission by someone in authority of Black Lives Matter, that they condone the shooting of cops.  We're all ears. ..

As PkrBum said, what do you hear when they are changing "PIGS IN A BLANKET, FRY 'EM LIKE BACON" AND "WHAT DO WE WANT?  DEAD COPS.  WHEN DO WE WANT 'EM, NOW".

Who are the "authority" of Black Lives Matter?  They are your group, certainly you know.

The whole movement is headed by an old black woman whose known as "Seesaw 3."  Masked as a sick old lady on welfare, she lives near Topeka, in a fourth floor walk-up in a project.  I gave her your address.  Here's a secret:  One of your biker buddies with the crapola logos all over his cute little vest is a Black Lives Matter assassin.  Enjoy your next ride.  

Here's what it all boils down to Markle: on my side you have outraged people, black and white, who resent being harassed, beaten, and murdered by overly cruel cops.  You call them racists, but they are protesting mistreatment by cops of every skin color, including black.

On your side we have the KKK, Rudy Giuliani, and almost every Police fraternity in all the major cities of this doomed and wretchedly divided country.  

Viva La Raza.  Viva Black Lives Matter!  


Down with Amerika, Inc. Corporate control of our government through corrupt campaign financing.  

Here's what it boils (water at 212 degrees f.) is that you have no clue.  Typical of Socialists they simply follow blindly.

Riots and murder is NOT protesting.


Whenever black Americans protest the cops claim it's a riot. If you have any real evidence that Black Lives Matter ordered the shooting of a cop, voice it here. We're all ears. If you can't offer any real evidence, then your whole thrust against Black Lives Matter is another hoax -- more bullshit from the bullshit king.

If you're looking for motivation on why cops are being assassinated, just read the news every day. How many victims of cop shootings does it take to set the revenge ball rolling?

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Two officers killed in the line of duty in Orlando this am. A 17 year veteran,  a Sgt. was shot numerous times and killed. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/09/police-officer-shot-outside-orlando-walmart-suspect-on-run.html

Telstar

Telstar

Joanimaroni wrote:Two officers killed in the line of duty in Orlando this am. A 17 year veteran,  a Sgt. was shot numerous times and killed. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/09/police-officer-shot-outside-orlando-walmart-suspect-on-run.html


What is it about the rightards that they enjoy bathing in death? One of them posts graphic pictures of dead bodies and the other one brooadcasts the latest death toll like she's Necro Tokyo Rose deep inside one of her forum caves. Pitiful.  Rolling Eyes

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Joanimaroni wrote:Two officers killed in the line of duty in Orlando this am. A 17 year veteran,  a Sgt. was shot numerous times and killed. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/09/police-officer-shot-outside-orlando-walmart-suspect-on-run.html

In my comment just above, I asked how many victims of cop shootings does it take to set the revenge ball rolling?

As long as cops present themselves as avenging militia and beat, brutalize and shoot citizens, there will be revenge shootings.

Neither side is right, both are wrong. I'm sorry for the dead on both sides of this unnecessary conflict. But, if you read the news or see it each week, it's clear there are too many shoot first cops allowed to carry a badge and gun. And when you get situations that were videoed, and we see some unarmed human get shot down running away from a cop who then kills him, it makes it damned difficult to care when another cop is assassinated. Reality.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Wordslinger wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:Two officers killed in the line of duty in Orlando this am. A 17 year veteran,  a Sgt. was shot numerous times and killed. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/09/police-officer-shot-outside-orlando-walmart-suspect-on-run.html

In my comment just above, I asked how many victims of cop shootings does it take to set the revenge ball rolling?  

As long as cops present themselves as avenging militia and beat, brutalize and shoot citizens, there will be revenge shootings.

Neither side is right, both are wrong.  I'm sorry for the dead on both sides of this unnecessary conflict.  But, if you read the news or see it each week, it's clear there are too many shoot first cops allowed to carry a badge and gun.  And when you get situations that were videoed, and we see some unarmed human get shot down running away from a cop who then kills him, it makes it damned difficult to care when another cop is assassinated.  Reality.


It is a sorry situation when there is a NEED for a group like Black Lives Matter in the 21st century. You would think that over the past 150+ years white folks could have finally gotten it through their heads that they should not consider themselves to be superior to other races. Such is not the case. People of color still have an uphill fight in many areas in our society.

Keep in mind too that some of the police who have been assassinated have been black.

It is no more justified to shoot someone because they are a cop than it is to shoot someone running away from you because they are black. Our heads are full of stereotypes and knee-jerk reactions of the most primitive order. To think we've solved our race issues is beyond laughable.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:Two officers killed in the line of duty in Orlando this am. A 17 year veteran,  a Sgt. was shot numerous times and killed. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/09/police-officer-shot-outside-orlando-walmart-suspect-on-run.html

In my comment just above, I asked how many victims of cop shootings does it take to set the revenge ball rolling?  

As long as cops present themselves as avenging militia and beat, brutalize and shoot citizens, there will be revenge shootings.

Neither side is right, both are wrong.  I'm sorry for the dead on both sides of this unnecessary conflict.  But, if you read the news or see it each week, it's clear there are too many shoot first cops allowed to carry a badge and gun.  And when you get situations that were videoed, and we see some unarmed human get shot down running away from a cop who then kills him, it makes it damned difficult to care when another cop is assassinated. Reality.

Another cop is assassinated.

Not surprised that you used the horrendous violence both riots and murders to advance your cause.  Following right in the footsteps of your hero whose private train you use as your private salute.

Is this your way of supporting the Cloward-Piven Strategy and create chaos in America killing more and more innocent civilians?

Grow up.



Last edited by Markle on 1/10/2017, 4:31 pm; edited 1 time in total

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:Two officers killed in the line of duty in Orlando this am. A 17 year veteran,  a Sgt. was shot numerous times and killed. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/09/police-officer-shot-outside-orlando-walmart-suspect-on-run.html

In my comment just above, I asked how many victims of cop shootings does it take to set the revenge ball rolling?  

As long as cops present themselves as avenging militia and beat, brutalize and shoot citizens, there will be revenge shootings.

Neither side is right, both are wrong.  I'm sorry for the dead on both sides of this unnecessary conflict.  But, if you read the news or see it each week, it's clear there are too many shoot first cops allowed to carry a badge and gun.  And when you get situations that were videoed, and we see some unarmed human get shot down running away from a cop who then kills him, it makes it damned difficult to care when another cop is assassinated. Reality.
nother cop is assassinated.

Not surprised that you used the horrendous violence both riots and murders to advance your cause.  Following right in the footsteps of your hero whose private train you use as your private salute.

Is this your way of supporting the Cloward-Piven Strategy and create chaos in America killing more and more innocent civilians?

Grow up.


Sorry Markle, you lose again. That's your best shot? A rambling insult that has zero to do with anything in this thread. My cause is real equality and justice, and it drives my anger at killer cops. Nothing more, nothing less. You want to cheer everytime a citizen is murdered by a cop. It figures -- right in line with racist-fascist thinking. Thanks for corroborating what I've been saying about you.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:Two officers killed in the line of duty in Orlando this am. A 17 year veteran,  a Sgt. was shot numerous times and killed. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/09/police-officer-shot-outside-orlando-walmart-suspect-on-run.html

In my comment just above, I asked how many victims of cop shootings does it take to set the revenge ball rolling?  

As long as cops present themselves as avenging militia and beat, brutalize and shoot citizens, there will be revenge shootings.

Neither side is right, both are wrong.  I'm sorry for the dead on both sides of this unnecessary conflict.  But, if you read the news or see it each week, it's clear there are too many shoot first cops allowed to carry a badge and gun.  And when you get situations that were videoed, and we see some unarmed human get shot down running away from a cop who then kills him, it makes it damned difficult to care when another cop is assassinated. Reality.
nother cop is assassinated.

Not surprised that you used the horrendous violence both riots and murders to advance your cause.  Following right in the footsteps of your hero whose private train you use as your private salute.

Is this your way of supporting the Cloward-Piven Strategy and create chaos in America killing more and more innocent civilians?

Grow up.


Sorry Markle, you lose again.  That's your best shot?  A rambling insult that has zero to do with anything in this thread.  My cause is real equality and justice, and it drives my anger at killer cops.  Nothing more, nothing less.  You want to cheer everytime a citizen is murdered by a cop.  It figures -- right in line with racist-fascist thinking.  Thanks for corroborating what I've been saying about you.

NO legitimate cause celebrates riots and murder, you do.

Unlike you, I've never "cheered" when a citizen was killed.  As you know and are slow to admit the vast majority would have been prevented had the victim simply not tried to show they were a bad ass and followed instructions.

Tyrus, in the first few seconds of this video, explains the issue quite well.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:Two officers killed in the line of duty in Orlando this am. A 17 year veteran,  a Sgt. was shot numerous times and killed. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/09/police-officer-shot-outside-orlando-walmart-suspect-on-run.html

In my comment just above, I asked how many victims of cop shootings does it take to set the revenge ball rolling?  

As long as cops present themselves as avenging militia and beat, brutalize and shoot citizens, there will be revenge shootings.

Neither side is right, both are wrong.  I'm sorry for the dead on both sides of this unnecessary conflict.  But, if you read the news or see it each week, it's clear there are too many shoot first cops allowed to carry a badge and gun.  And when you get situations that were videoed, and we see some unarmed human get shot down running away from a cop who then kills him, it makes it damned difficult to care when another cop is assassinated. Reality.
nother cop is assassinated.

Not surprised that you used the horrendous violence both riots and murders to advance your cause.  Following right in the footsteps of your hero whose private train you use as your private salute.

Is this your way of supporting the Cloward-Piven Strategy and create chaos in America killing more and more innocent civilians?

Grow up.


Sorry Markle, you lose again.  That's your best shot?  A rambling insult that has zero to do with anything in this thread.  My cause is real equality and justice, and it drives my anger at killer cops.  Nothing more, nothing less.  You want to cheer everytime a citizen is murdered by a cop.  It figures -- right in line with racist-fascist thinking.  Thanks for corroborating what I've been saying about you.

NO legitimate cause celebrates riots and murder, you do.

Unlike you, I've never "cheered" when a citizen was killed.  As you know and are slow to admit the vast majority would have been prevented had the victim simply not tried to show they were a bad ass and followed instructions.

Tyrus, in the first few seconds of this video, explains the issue quite well.



Markle your racism is so overt, you don't even recognize how foul and disgusting your comments are when it involves a black victim of a cop shooting.  ". . . the vast majority would have been prevented had the victim simply not tried to show they were a bad ass and followed instructions."  

Tell that to the family of the black man who was attacked and choked to death by NYPD.  Tell it to the family of the black unarmed suspect who was shot in the back while running away from a cop.  Tell it to the family of the black victim who,during a traffic stop, was killed by a cop who ordered him to produce his license and ID and who was shot to death reaching for his wallet. Fact: NONE of these victims were mouthing off or acting "bad ass."  

What's glaringly apparent in your racist comment, is your disgusting use of the words "the vast majority" implying, of course, that most black shooting victims deserved what they got.  You're also implying here that cops have the right to murder black suspects who mouth off to them.  


If that isn't overt racism, what is?? Markle you make me ashamed of being white.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:Two officers killed in the line of duty in Orlando this am. A 17 year veteran,  a Sgt. was shot numerous times and killed. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/09/police-officer-shot-outside-orlando-walmart-suspect-on-run.html

In my comment just above, I asked how many victims of cop shootings does it take to set the revenge ball rolling?  

As long as cops present themselves as avenging militia and beat, brutalize and shoot citizens, there will be revenge shootings.

Neither side is right, both are wrong.  I'm sorry for the dead on both sides of this unnecessary conflict.  But, if you read the news or see it each week, it's clear there are too many shoot first cops allowed to carry a badge and gun.  And when you get situations that were videoed, and we see some unarmed human get shot down running away from a cop who then kills him, it makes it damned difficult to care when another cop is assassinated. Reality.
Another cop is assassinated.

Not surprised that you used the horrendous violence both riots and murders to advance your cause.  Following right in the footsteps of your hero whose private train you use as your private salute.

Is this your way of supporting the Cloward-Piven Strategy and create chaos in America killing more and more innocent civilians?

Grow up.


Sorry Markle, you lose again.  That's your best shot?  A rambling insult that has zero to do with anything in this thread.  My cause is real equality and justice, and it drives my anger at killer cops.  Nothing more, nothing less.  You want to cheer everytime a citizen is murdered by a cop.  It figures -- right in line with racist-fascist thinking.  Thanks for corroborating what I've been saying about you.

NO legitimate cause celebrates riots and murder, you do.

Unlike you, I've never "cheered" when a citizen was killed.  As you know and are slow to admit the vast majority would have been prevented had the victim simply not tried to show they were a bad ass and followed instructions.

Tyrus, in the first few seconds of this video, explains the issue quite well.


Markle your racism is so overt, you don't even recognize how foul and disgusting your comments are when it involves a black victim of a cop shooting.  ". . . the vast majority would have been prevented had the victim simply not tried to show they were a bad ass and followed instructions."  

Tell that to the family of the black man who was attacked and choked to death by NYPD.  Tell it to the family of the black unarmed suspect who was shot in the back while running away from a cop.  Tell it to the family of the black victim who, during a traffic stop, was killed by a cop who ordered him to produce his license and ID and who was shot to death reaching for his wallet.  Fact: NONE of these victims were mouthing off or acting "bad ass."  

What's glaringly apparent in your racist comment, is your disgusting use of the words "the vast majority" implying, of course, that most black shooting victims deserved what they got.  You're also implying here that cops have the right to murder black suspects who mouth off to them.  

If that isn't overt racism, what is??  Markle you make me ashamed of being white.  

How is demanding that anyone stopped by police should simply follow reasonable instructions OVERT RACISM"? Please be specific.

In each and ever case you cite, there was a thorough investigation. Is the officer involved in shooting the suspect in the back NOT being prosecuted? EVEN in that case, had he simply followed instructions, he'd be alive today.

The individual choked by police. There were several officers, there was a senior office at the site overseeing the takedown. That officer, as you know, is a black female superior officer. According to her and the investigation, everything was by the book.

Try to state, honestly and with a straight face, that had any of these victims followed clear, succinct orders, they would have been killed anyway.
You can't. Don't even try you cute little rationalizations.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Joanimaroni wrote:Two officers killed in the line of duty in Orlando this am. A 17 year veteran,  a Sgt. was shot numerous times and killed. 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/09/police-officer-shot-outside-orlando-walmart-suspect-on-run.html

In my comment just above, I asked how many victims of cop shootings does it take to set the revenge ball rolling?  

As long as cops present themselves as avenging militia and beat, brutalize and shoot citizens, there will be revenge shootings.

Neither side is right, both are wrong.  I'm sorry for the dead on both sides of this unnecessary conflict.  But, if you read the news or see it each week, it's clear there are too many shoot first cops allowed to carry a badge and gun.  And when you get situations that were videoed, and we see some unarmed human get shot down running away from a cop who then kills him, it makes it damned difficult to care when another cop is assassinated. Reality.
Another cop is assassinated.

Not surprised that you used the horrendous violence both riots and murders to advance your cause.  Following right in the footsteps of your hero whose private train you use as your private salute.

Is this your way of supporting the Cloward-Piven Strategy and create chaos in America killing more and more innocent civilians?

Grow up.


Sorry Markle, you lose again.  That's your best shot?  A rambling insult that has zero to do with anything in this thread.  My cause is real equality and justice, and it drives my anger at killer cops.  Nothing more, nothing less.  You want to cheer everytime a citizen is murdered by a cop.  It figures -- right in line with racist-fascist thinking.  Thanks for corroborating what I've been saying about you.

NO legitimate cause celebrates riots and murder, you do.

Unlike you, I've never "cheered" when a citizen was killed.  As you know and are slow to admit the vast majority would have been prevented had the victim simply not tried to show they were a bad ass and followed instructions.

Tyrus, in the first few seconds of this video, explains the issue quite well.


Markle your racism is so overt, you don't even recognize how foul and disgusting your comments are when it involves a black victim of a cop shooting.  ". . . the vast majority would have been prevented had the victim simply not tried to show they were a bad ass and followed instructions."  

Tell that to the family of the black man who was attacked and choked to death by NYPD.  Tell it to the family of the black unarmed suspect who was shot in the back while running away from a cop.  Tell it to the family of the black victim who, during a traffic stop, was killed by a cop who ordered him to produce his license and ID and who was shot to death reaching for his wallet.  Fact: NONE of these victims were mouthing off or acting "bad ass."  

What's glaringly apparent in your racist comment, is your disgusting use of the words "the vast majority" implying, of course, that most black shooting victims deserved what they got.  You're also implying here that cops have the right to murder black suspects who mouth off to them.  

If that isn't overt racism, what is??  Markle you make me ashamed of being white.  

How is demanding that anyone stopped by police should simply follow reasonable instructions OVERT RACISM"?  Please be specific.

In each and ever case you cite, there was a thorough investigation.  Is the officer involved in shooting the suspect in the back NOT being prosecuted?  EVEN in that case, had he simply followed instructions, he'd be alive today.

The individual choked by police.  There were several officers, there was a senior office at the site overseeing the takedown.  That officer, as you know, is a black female superior officer.  According to her and the investigation, everything was by the book.

Try to state, honestly and with a straight face, that had any of these victims followed clear, succinct orders, they would have been killed anyway.
You can't.  Don't even try you cute little rationalizations.


Fact: All three were unarmed and not attacking the cops who killed them. As you well know, my funny racist-fascist friend.

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