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Russia helps put Trump in office says Washington Post report

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othershoe1030

othershoe1030

The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.

Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” said a senior U.S. official briefed on an intelligence presentation made to U.S. senators. “That’s the consensus view.”

The Obama administration has been debating for months how to respond to the alleged Russian intrusions, with White House officials concerned about escalating tensions with Moscow and being accused of trying to boost Clinton’s campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.dc1d2b17253f

Telstar

Telstar

othershoe1030 wrote:The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.

Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” said a senior U.S. official briefed on an intelligence presentation made to U.S. senators. “That’s the consensus view.”

The Obama administration has been debating for months how to respond to the alleged Russian intrusions, with White House officials concerned about escalating tensions with Moscow and being accused of trying to boost Clinton’s campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.dc1d2b17253f





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Markle

Markle

othershoe1030 wrote:The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.

Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” said a senior U.S. official briefed on an intelligence presentation made to U.S. senators. “That’s the consensus view.”

The Obama administration has been debating for months how to respond to the alleged Russian intrusions, with White House officials concerned about escalating tensions with Moscow and being accused of trying to boost Clinton’s campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.dc1d2b17253f

Please show us where the CIA, or any other intelligence agency, has unequivocally stated that Russia hacked Leon Panetta's email account.

What you're saying is that the public received TO MUCH INFORMATION about Hillary Clinton. Specifically, how is that possible?

Telstar

Telstar

Markle wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.

Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.

“It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” said a senior U.S. official briefed on an intelligence presentation made to U.S. senators. “That’s the consensus view.”

The Obama administration has been debating for months how to respond to the alleged Russian intrusions, with White House officials concerned about escalating tensions with Moscow and being accused of trying to boost Clinton’s campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.dc1d2b17253f

Please show us where the CIA, or any other intelligence agency, has unequivocally stated that Russia hacked Leon Panetta's email account.

What you're saying is that the public received TO MUCH INFORMATION about Hillary Clinton.  Specifically, how is that possible?




Sounds like the DailyKOS.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Well, holy cow guys just read the post. It is not Me saying these things it is a report in the Washington Post, not Daily Kos. Just read the article. duh.

As for there being too much information about Hillary, can you just imagine what sort of things would have been revealed if the leaked emails had come from the RNC or Steve Bannon's emails? Here's what retired general Michael Hayden had to say about the incident.

"Wow." That's a former CIA director's reaction to President-elect Trump's refusal to believe that Russian hackers tried to influence the American election.
President Obama this week ordered U.S. intelligence agencies to produce a "full review" into claims of Russian hacking, including intelligence officials' conclusions that Russian hackers stole electronic communications of Democrats in an attempt "to interfere with the U.S. election."
On Wednesday, Time Magazine quoted Trump saying: "I don't believe they interfered... it could be Russia. And it could be China. And it could be some guy in his home in New Jersey."
Retired General Michael Hayden talked about Trump's refusal accept the intelligence conclusion at a private forum in Manhattan Wednesday evening.

"To have the president-elect of the United States simply reject the fact-based narrative that the intelligence community puts together because it conflicts with his a priori assumptions. Wow," he said.
"The data matters," Hayden said. "He continues to reject the Russians did it... and claims that it was politicized intelligence."
general michael hayden
Ex-CIA head Gen. Michael Hayden
Hayden pointed out that the current director of national intelligence, James Clapper, cited "high confidence" when he blamed Russia for the hacks. That level of certainty is rare, Hayden said.
Hayden was director of the U.S. National Security Agency during the lead-up to the Iraq War. He later served as head of the CIA.
Despite Trump's skeptical stance on Russia hacking the Democrats, the general had some suggestions for next president to retaliate against Russia.

Option one: Arm Ukraine with better weapons
Russia and Ukraine are locked in a tense standoff following a bloody conflict in which Russia annexed the southern region of Crimea in 2014.
The United States has offered weapons to Ukraine's military, as well as funding for pro-democracy media in the region. Hayden suggests stepping that up.
"A response might be antitank missiles to the Ukrainian national armed forces," Hayden said.

Option two: Handicap Russia's oil economy
European nations rely on Russia for nearly a third of their crude oil and natural gas, according to the European Union. Hayden said the United States could become Europe's gas supplier.
"You want to go long? A response could be a declaratory American national policy to wean our European allies off of Russian gas," he said. "I can think of nothing that pulls the choke collar on Vladimir's chain more than: 'We're taking your only hole card away from you.' It's going to take us 10 years, but it's going to happen."

Option three: Go after Russian criminal hackers and financiers
The U.S. government has been reluctant to identify the foreign governments that have hacked American companies and agencies. It's even more rare for investigators to identify the individual hackers themselves.
Hayden said the United States should engage in a "name and shame" campaign.
"Keep pinning their photos up in the global post office. Don't be reluctant about it," he said in response to a question from CNNMoney. "That gets everyone's attention. It's a very potent tool."
Meanwhile, U.S. government hackers could "hack away at the infrastructure used by the Russian criminal gangs" to shut them down.

Option four: Give Russian citizens privacy tools
Critics have said Russia's authoritarian approach has quieted dissent.
Hayden's favorite American approach is to undermine the Russian government's surveillance state by giving Russian citizens high-tech communication tools to hide from their own government.

"I find this most intriguing. Just go all out, shoving by whatever means possible, anonymizing tools into the Russian cyberspace. Nothing more threatens Vladimir Putin than not being able to track his own citizens."
Some options already exist. Internet browsers like the Tor Browser, originally developed by the U.S. Navy, offer anonymity for browsing websites.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/09/technology/trump-russia-hackers-cia/index.html

Sal

Sal

Trump is an illegitimate president.

But, we knew this.

The real news is the degree to which the FBI and congressional Republicans were and are complicit.

Sal

Sal

Our only hope is that Trump is just stupid enough to insult the CIA so egregiously that they respond by releasing all the damaging intel they have on him (and there's zero doubt they have enough to bring him down).

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Sal wrote:Our only hope is that Trump is just stupid enough to insult the CIA so egregiously that they respond by releasing all the damaging intel they have on him (and there's zero doubt they have enough to bring him down).

Here is a person who has never held one elected office. He is without a doubt the least qualified by experience in government of any person ever to hold the office yet he doesn't think it is necessary to attend the daily security briefings. Perhaps if he took the briefings he would have more respect for the intelligence services who try to keep us safe?

Apparently there is no reality he is hesitant to reject from 17 intelligence agencies to climate scientists to fake news. I hope people will be able to see through this but given the results of this election can we depend on mass discernment?

Guest


Guest

That's the funny thing about playing with no ethics or principles and nothing matters on your side...

the other side plays by those rules too. Or lack there of... congratulations comrades... we all lose.

Sal

Sal

PkrBum wrote:That's the funny thing about playing with false equivalencies and bogus narratives and nothing matters on your side...

... congratulations dumbass... we all lose.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

othershoe1030 wrote:
Sal wrote:Our only hope is that Trump is just stupid enough to insult the CIA so egregiously that they respond by releasing all the damaging intel they have on him (and there's zero doubt they have enough to bring him down).

Here is a person who has never held one elected office. He is without a doubt the least qualified by experience in government of any person ever to hold the office yet he doesn't think it is necessary to attend the daily security briefings. Perhaps if he took the briefings he would have more respect for the intelligence services who try to keep us safe?

Apparently there is no reality he is hesitant to reject from 17 intelligence agencies to climate scientists to fake news. I hope people will be able to see through this but given the results of this election can we depend on mass discernment?

In a word...NO. Go back to the WaPo article and watch the comments keep rolling in.

Also:

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/inside-the-political-and-financial-collusion-between-donald-trump-and-vladimir-putin/25393/

New evidence reveals Donald Trump is a financial and political puppet of Vladimir Putin’s Russia
By Thom Palmer | July 26, 2016 | 117

"...Let’s see…

1. Trump wants an isolationist United States.
2. Trump doesn’t speak out against Assad in Syria, who Putin is helping.
3. Trump wants to walk away from NATO, leaving Europe to Putin as far as influence goes.
4. Trump owes millions to Russia in loans. Russia is heavily invested in Trump Enterprises.
5. Paul Manafort, Trumps campaign manager worked as consultant to ex Ukranian President Viktor Yanukovych.
6. Yanukovych was granted asylum from Putin after being driven from power in Ukraine.
7. Manafort was hired to clean up Yanukovych’s image in Russia, just like he’s attempting to do with Trump.
8. Trump’s tax returns would likely show his connections to and dependence on Russia and Putin.
9. Trump refuses to produce his tax returns because “It will hurt my campaign”..."

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

PkrBum wrote:That's the funny thing about playing with no ethics or principles and nothing matters on your side...

the other side plays by those rules too. Or lack there of... congratulations comrades... we all lose.

Ethics and principles...that's why I'm a DEMOCRAT!


dumpcare



Hell even some of the republican's I know are now saying it looks like something was mighty fishy with the Trump win. But also said they are glad. lol

Telstar

Telstar

ppaca wrote:Hell even some of the republican's I know are now saying it looks like something was mighty fishy with the Trump win. But also said they are glad. lol



Joe McCarthy was right about our government being infested by the enemy, only they are Russian Republicans and he was 60 years too soon.

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