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1More threats from Iran Empty More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 9:18 am

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As Taheri wrote in the New York Post:

While Secretary of State John Kerry and President Obama do their best to paper over the brutality of the Iranian regime and force through a nuclear agreement, Iran’s religious leader has another issue on his mind: The destruction of Israel.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has published a new book called “Palestine,” a 416-page screed against the Jewish state. A blurb on the back cover credits Khamenei as “The flagbearer of Jihad to liberate Jerusalem.”

A friend sent me a copy from Iran, the only place the book is currently available, though an Arabic translation is promised soon.
Obama administration officials likely hope that no American even hears about it.

Khamenei makes his position clear from the start: Israel has no right to exist as a state.

He uses three words. One is “nabudi” which means “annihilation.” The other is “imha” which means “fading out,” and, finally, there is “zaval” meaning “effacement.”

Khamenei claims that his strategy for the destruction of Israel is not based on anti-Semitism, which he describes as a European phenomenon. His position is instead based on “well-established Islamic principles.”

The Ayatollah referred to “well-established Islamic principles” — so does that mean the Iranian leader believes Islam grants permission for the destruction of Israel? Just recently, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson stated, “Islam is a religion of peace.”

Who’s right here? Well, one thing is for certain, I’ll pay attention to the words of the fellas who are the largest state supporters of Islamic terrorism. Oops, I know, according to Johnson and Obama, such speak would offend the Muslim community and not inspire their trust in me.

Ladies and Gents, here’s yet another piece of evidence the attitude of the Iranians hasn’t changed a single bit. I’m quite sure this 416 page book wasn’t just written. In fact, it was being written while Obama and Kerry were sitting, open handed, at the table with the Iranians, whose fists remained clenched.

The book represents a rallying cry in the Islamic world to follow Iran’s lead as they seek to become the new Islamic hegemony. ISIS may have a caliphate, but Iran’s just done something unbelievable: it’s maintained its aggressive support of Islamic terrorism, extended its control over major Middle East capitols — and with all that, forced the United States and the west to concede to relieving economic sanctions and allow it to continue developing its nuclear program.

We’ve now enabled Iran to take center stage as the one Islamic country — as militant and hardline as they come — that’s stood up to America and made us acquiesce. The Iranians can point to a President Obama who’s threatening his own U.S. Congress with a veto over this agreement. They can point to a President Obama who bypassed his own Congress for the United Nations, where the Security Council unanimously voted to endorse the Iranian agreement. All this as a book’s released addressing the annihilation of Israel — what message does that send and what’s America’s image on the global stage?

If we can be this taken by Iran, then what’s next for Ayatollah Khamanei is alarming, according to the writer.

Khamenei counts on what he sees as “Israel fatigue.” The international community would start looking for what he calls “a practical and logical mechanism” to end the old conflict.

Khamenei’s “practical and logical mechanism” excludes the two-state formula in any form. “The solution is a one-state formula,” he declares. That state, to be called Palestine, would be under Muslim rule but would allow non-Muslims, including some Israeli Jews who could prove “genuine roots” in the region to stay as “protected minorities.”

Under Khamenei’s scheme, Israel, plus the West Bank and Gaza, would revert to a United Nations mandate for a brief period during which a referendum is held to create the new state of Palestine.

All Palestinians and their descendants, wherever they are, would be able to vote, while Jews “who have come from other places” would be excluded.

Khamenei does not mention any figures for possible voters in his dream referendum. But studies by the Islamic Foreign Ministry in Tehran suggest that at least eight million Palestinians across the globe would be able to vote against 2.2 million Jews “acceptable” as future second-class citizens of new Palestine. Thus, the “Supreme Guide” is certain of the results of his proposed referendum.

Of course, I can hear folks chiming in that this’ll never happen. And have you read this agreement with Iran? Do not tell me anymore what cannot happen in this world where people are being beheaded and crucified. The results of having an Islamist sympathizer in the White House has brought us to a very unbelievable point.

And if America were to fail again and allow a Hillary Clinton into the White House, it would only advance the very anti-Semitic agenda of the liberal progressive left. After all, it was then President Bill and First Lady Hillary Clinton who invited a known “Palestinian” terrorist named Yasser Arafat into the White House.

I know many chastised former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee for his comments, but what about Ayatollah Khamanei’s comments:

Khamenei boasts about the success of his plans to make life impossible for Israelis through terror attacks from Lebanon and Gaza. His latest scheme is to recruit “fighters” in the West Bank to set up Hezbollah-style units.

“We have intervened in anti-Israel matters, and it brought victory in the 33-day war by Hezbollah against Israel in 2006 and in the 22-day war between Hamas and Israel in the Gaza Strip,” he boasts.

Khamenei describes Israel as “a cancerous tumor,” whose elimination would mean “the West’s hegemony and threats will be discredited” in the Middle East. In its place, he boasts, “the hegemony of Iran will be promoted.”

Khamenei’s book also deals with the Holocaust, which he regards either as “a propaganda ploy” or a disputed claim. “If there was such a thing,” he writes, “we don’t know why it happened and how.”

These are the people with whom President Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry say we must have an agreement — or else there will be war. Well, based upon these statements from the Ayatollah, there will be war anyway, further emboldened by the incessant weakness exhibited by Obama and Kerry.

At least Adolf Hitler was somewhat deceitful with Neville Chamberlain. But the current Iranian regime has been and continues to be a belligerent militant Islamic terrorist regime hellbent on one thing in the immediate future — the destruction of Israel, Little Satan, as they say.

Who do the black-robed crazed clerics of Iran refer to as Big Satan? The country that led the negotiations yielding the Iranian regime an economic, military and a nuclear victory on paper.

2More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 12:10 pm

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...The country that led the negotiations yielding the Iranian regime an economic, military and a nuclear victory on paper...

Wow, that is quite an ending to a serious pro-Zionist bootlicking rant......

So, according to this writer, we have yielded an "economic,  military and nuclear victory" to Iran, all at once.

The writer is wrong on all counts; but we know the sphere from where you get your news, information, and where your opinions are shaped (places like the New York Post...).

How was Iran given a military victory when no shots have been fired?

How has Iran been given a nuclear victory when their bomb program has been halted?

The author of that piece is full of shit!

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3More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 12:13 pm

Sal

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Still waiting for a viable alternative to an agreement .....

4More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 12:29 pm

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Snark Spigot wrote:Still waiting for a viable alternative to an agreement .....

PeeDog wants war. He wants the U.S. to bankroll and support militarily an Israeli-lead attack on Iran.

Unfortunately for PeeDog, President Barrack H. Obama stands in the way of such a hair-brained and irresponsible idea.

What is so weird is hearing all of the hawkish cries from pro-Zionist bootlickers who claim that Iran is out to destroy Israel, when it is Israel who is vocally and publicly chomping at the bit to attack Iran. Just listen to Bibi's bombastic outbursts about Iran. They define hypocrisy.

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5More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 12:33 pm

Sal

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ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Snark Spigot wrote:Still waiting for a viable alternative to an agreement .....

PeeDog wants war. He wants the U.S. to bankroll and support militarily an Israeli-lead attack on Iran.


Sane people do not consider that a viable alternative.

6More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 1:23 pm

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Snark Spigot wrote:Still waiting for a viable alternative to an agreement .....

The sanctions in place were working and having a huge affect. The continued holding of funds, now released, will only go to be used for Hamas, Hezbollah and other terroristic items that Iran will push forward.

War will happen because we've armed up a foreign state that wants to destroy not only the United States, but other nations in the Middle East as well.

Z, war is coming now in a huge way and it is not going to be prevented now that Iran is the 900 pound gorilla running loose at the zoo.

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http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/world-report/2015/08/04/obamas-iran-deal-math-has-99-problems


President Barack Obama says that 99 percent of the world supports his proposed nuclear deal with Iran. He had better check his math.

The most obvious problem with Obama's 99 percent figure is the strong American majority opposition to the proposed deal. A Quinnipiac poll released Monday showed that American voters oppose the plan by an almost 30 point margin, 57 percent to 28 percent. Almost identical numbers say that the plan will make the world less safe, not more. And a Pew poll in July showed little public confidence that Iran would live up to its side of the deal, or that international inspectors could enforce it.


But the aclown in the WH is gonna do what he wants with his pen and his phone bringing us totally closer to a nuclear war.

8More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 2:00 pm

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Obamasucks wrote:War will happen because we've armed up a foreign state that wants to destroy not only the United States, but other nations in the Middle East as well.

Z, war is coming now in a huge way and it is not going to be prevented now that Iran is the 900 pound gorilla running loose at the zoo.

There won't be a war so long as Barrack Obama stands in the way of it. And if Bibi goes maverick and starts it on his own, the whole world is going to sanction Israel, and Barrack Obama will step aside and let it happen (i.e., no U.S. UN veto covering Bibi's recklessness).  Heck Obama may just go about freezing all economic and military aid to Israel--that would be the shits for Bibi, for his country is the ultimate welfare-queen that sucks off the U.S. government teat like no other country does.

Netanyahu would have to be a complete psychopath to try and double-cross Obama on Iran any more than he already has.

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9More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 2:04 pm

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Obamasucks wrote:http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/world-report/2015/08/04/obamas-iran-deal-math-has-99-problems


President Barack Obama says that 99 percent of the world supports his proposed nuclear deal with Iran. He had better check his math.

The most obvious problem with Obama's 99 percent figure is the strong American majority opposition to the proposed deal. A Quinnipiac poll released Monday showed that American voters oppose the plan by an almost 30 point margin, 57 percent to 28 percent. Almost identical numbers say that the plan will make the world less safe, not more. And a Pew poll in July showed little public confidence that Iran would live up to its side of the deal, or that international inspectors could enforce it.


But the aclown in the WH is gonna do what he wants with his pen and his phone bringing us totally closer to a nuclear war.

Another opinion-piece from a pro-Zionist bootlicker, huh? And you are using this as fact..... Figures.

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10More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 2:15 pm

boards of FL

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Obamasucks wrote:
Snark Spigot wrote:Still waiting for a viable alternative to an agreement .....

The sanctions in place were working and having a huge affect. The continued holding of funds, now released, will only go to be used for Hamas, Hezbollah and other terroristic items that Iran will push forward.

War will happen because we've armed up a foreign state that wants to destroy not only the United States, but other nations in the Middle East as well.

Z, war is coming now in a huge way and it is not going to be prevented now that Iran is the 900 pound gorilla running loose at the zoo.



Continued multilateral sanctions isn't an option that is available to us.

I have to ask, do you actually read or watch the news?


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11More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 2:20 pm

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Jerusalem (AFP) - Many Israeli ex-generals and former security chiefs have signed a petition urging Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to accept the nuclear deal between world powers and Iran, which he strongly opposes.
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A petition signed by the former officials and made public Monday calls the July 14 accord a "fait accompli".

It urges the government to pursue a policy that would "restore trust and reinforce security and diplomatic cooperation with the American administration".

Doing so would "allow us to prepare to face the numerous challenges that will result from the agreement", the petition says.

The signatories include two former heads of the Shin Bet internal security agency, Ami Ayalon and Carmi Gillon; a former deputy director of the Mossad intelligence agency, Amiram Levin; the ex-chief of the Atomic Energy Commission Uzi Eilmann; and dozens of former generals and senior officers.

http://news.yahoo.com/israel-ex-security-chiefs-urge-netanyahu-accept-iran-154215121.html

12More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 2:37 pm

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boards of FL wrote:
Obamasucks wrote:
Snark Spigot wrote:Still waiting for a viable alternative to an agreement .....

The sanctions in place were working and having a huge affect. The continued holding of funds, now released, will only go to be used for Hamas, Hezbollah and other terroristic items that Iran will push forward.

War will happen because we've armed up a foreign state that wants to destroy not only the United States, but other nations in the Middle East as well.

Z, war is coming now in a huge way and it is not going to be prevented now that Iran is the 900 pound gorilla running loose at the zoo.


Continued multilateral sanctions isn't an option that is available to us.

I have to ask, do you actually read or watch the news?

PeeDog is actually all over the compass on Iran.... He doesn't know if he is coming or going.

Before the deal, the sanctions were not good enough for PeeDog, and the attack on Iran was the only option.

Now that the deal has been made, he wants us to keep the sanctions in place as if there was no deal to be made.

Ultimately, it comes back to war--PeeDog's only desired alternative.

The war is stuffed at least until January of 2017, and if we can keep the GOP out of the Whitehouse in the 2016 election, it may be stuffed at least for a period. Poster Obamasucks should suck on that one for a bit!
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13More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 2:46 pm

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Snark Spigot wrote:Jerusalem (AFP) - Many Israeli ex-generals and former security chiefs have signed a petition urging Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to accept the nuclear deal between world powers and Iran, which he strongly opposes.

No worries.... Poster Obamasucks, our resident and self-proclaimed forum military expert, who has made numerous tours abroad on combat deployments, begs to differ with these Israeli ex-generals. Maybe these ex-generals have less experience fighting Muslims than our own Obamasucks, who knows......

Let's just hope that the bombastic and grandiloquent Bibi listens to his generals for a change!

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14More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 2:49 pm

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Obamasucks wrote:war is coming now in a huge way

There's only one thing you can take to the bank about this huge coming war.

Which is that every so-called "leader" anywhere,  and that includes here,  Iran,  Russia,  Israel,  or anywhere else on Earth,  will risk no personal danger whatsoever.
They will all be in guarded bunkers when the next war starts.  Like every leader in every war for the last hundred years.  

It will be the peons , both military and civilian,  who will do ALL the dying and the suffering.  Like always.
And those peons will be cheerleading for the leaders on every side,  just like always.  And then many of those peons will die.  On ALL sides. Like always.

15More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 3:09 pm

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boards of FL wrote:
Obamasucks wrote:
Snark Spigot wrote:Still waiting for a viable alternative to an agreement .....

The sanctions in place were working and having a huge affect. The continued holding of funds, now released, will only go to be used for Hamas, Hezbollah and other terroristic items that Iran will push forward.

War will happen because we've armed up a foreign state that wants to destroy not only the United States, but other nations in the Middle East as well.

Z, war is coming now in a huge way and it is not going to be prevented now that Iran is the 900 pound gorilla running loose at the zoo.



Continued multilateral sanctions isn't an option that is available to us.

I have to ask, do you actually read or watch the news?

It's an alternative to war...but you refuse to admit it. Now you have Israel and other Sunni Muslim led nations ready to take the first strike because we are bargaining away the safety of their countries.

16More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 3:13 pm

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Bob wrote:
Obamasucks wrote:war is coming now in a huge way

There's only one thing you can take to the bank about this huge coming war.

Which is that every so-called "leader" anywhere,  and that includes here,  Iran,  Russia,  Israel,  or anywhere else on Earth,  will risk no personal danger whatsoever.
They will all be in guarded bunkers when the next war starts.  Like every leader in every war for the last hundred years.  

It will be the peons , both military and civilian,  who will do ALL the dying and the suffering.  Like always.
And those peons will be cheerleading for the leaders on every side,  just like always.  And then many of those peons will die.  On ALL sides. Like always.



And even our rightest of right-wing ammosexuals won't be their either. They'll be too busy displaying their manliness by walking into places like Starbucks with assault rifles hanging on their shoulders. Because that's what real mean who aren't afraid of anything do. Cough pussies cough.


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Obamasucks wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Obamasucks wrote:
Snark Spigot wrote:Still waiting for a viable alternative to an agreement .....

The sanctions in place were working and having a huge affect. The continued holding of funds, now released, will only go to be used for Hamas, Hezbollah and other terroristic items that Iran will push forward.

War will happen because we've armed up a foreign state that wants to destroy not only the United States, but other nations in the Middle East as well.

Z, war is coming now in a huge way and it is not going to be prevented now that Iran is the 900 pound gorilla running loose at the zoo.



Continued multilateral sanctions isn't an option that is available to us.

I have to ask, do you actually read or watch the news?

It's an alternative to war...but you refuse to admit it. Now you have Israel  and other Sunni Muslim led nations ready to take the first strike because we are bargaining away the safety of their countries.


It isn't an option, therefore it isn't an alternative to the deal. Continued multilateral sanctions would require the continued cooperation of our allies, and continued cooperation from our allies comes at the expense of their economies, which would benefit from trade with Iran; hence why multilateral sanctions are not an option.


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18More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 3:45 pm

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The available options are ...

1. Sign an agreement that will degrade Iran's nuclear capabilities and slow its development program.

2. Face a collapse of the sanctions regime which would allow Iran to develop its nuclear capacity immediately with few constraints.

3. Catastrophic war.

19More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 3:53 pm

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Obamasucks wrote:Now you have Israel  and other Sunni Muslim led nations ready to take the first strike because we are bargaining away the safety of their countries.

Bullshit!!

Iran has made no recent public threats toward Israel. Iran has never overtly attacked Israel.

The warmongers who want to attack include that nut Bibi Nuttyyahoo. All the bellicosity is coming from Bibi and his pro-Zionist sycophants like you. That is where the threats and wartalk are originating. Hypocrites!

And then we have that hypocrite Bibi complaining about his enemies wanting atomic bombs while he sits on an illegal pile of them.

Thankfully, Obama has poured cold-water on pro-Zionist attempts to start yet another Middle East war. Suck on that, Mr. Obamasucks!

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20More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 4:28 pm

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boards of FL wrote:
Bob wrote:
Obamasucks wrote:war is coming now in a huge way

There's only one thing you can take to the bank about this huge coming war.

Which is that every so-called "leader" anywhere,  and that includes here,  Iran,  Russia,  Israel,  or anywhere else on Earth,  will risk no personal danger whatsoever.
They will all be in guarded bunkers when the next war starts.  Like every leader in every war for the last hundred years.  

It will be the peons , both military and civilian,  who will do ALL the dying and the suffering.  Like always.
And those peons will be cheerleading for the leaders on every side,  just like always.  And then many of those peons will die.  On ALL sides. Like always.



And even our rightest of right-wing ammosexuals won't be their either.  They'll be too busy displaying their manliness by walking into places like Starbucks with assault rifles hanging on their shoulders.  Because that's what real mean who aren't afraid of anything do.  Cough pussies cough.


More threats from Iran Open-carry-ap

A war against Iran will involve the minimum amount of troops on the ground due to the fact that there will not be an invasion like Iraq/Astan. It will only involve the troops required to help drop specific types of laser guided munitions (JTACS) and SOF personnel to create chaos and havoc which should help stir up the resistance against the Ayatollas.

21More threats from Iran Empty Re: More threats from Iran 8/5/2015, 4:36 pm

boards of FL

boards of FL

Obamasucks wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Bob wrote:
Obamasucks wrote:war is coming now in a huge way

There's only one thing you can take to the bank about this huge coming war.

Which is that every so-called "leader" anywhere,  and that includes here,  Iran,  Russia,  Israel,  or anywhere else on Earth,  will risk no personal danger whatsoever.
They will all be in guarded bunkers when the next war starts.  Like every leader in every war for the last hundred years.  

It will be the peons , both military and civilian,  who will do ALL the dying and the suffering.  Like always.
And those peons will be cheerleading for the leaders on every side,  just like always.  And then many of those peons will die.  On ALL sides. Like always.



And even our rightest of right-wing ammosexuals won't be their either.  They'll be too busy displaying their manliness by walking into places like Starbucks with assault rifles hanging on their shoulders.  Because that's what real mean who aren't afraid of anything do.  Cough pussies cough.


More threats from Iran Open-carry-ap

A war against Iran will involve the minimum amount of troops on the ground due to the fact that there will not be an invasion like Iraq/Astan. It will only involve the troops required to help drop specific types of laser guided munitions (JTACS) and SOF personnel to create chaos and havoc which should help stir up the resistance against the Ayatollas.



There won't be a war with Iran because that is an incredibly stupid idea only being floated by abject morons.


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boards of FL wrote:
Obamasucks wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
Bob wrote:
Obamasucks wrote:war is coming now in a huge way

There's only one thing you can take to the bank about this huge coming war.

Which is that every so-called "leader" anywhere,  and that includes here,  Iran,  Russia,  Israel,  or anywhere else on Earth,  will risk no personal danger whatsoever.
They will all be in guarded bunkers when the next war starts.  Like every leader in every war for the last hundred years.  

It will be the peons , both military and civilian,  who will do ALL the dying and the suffering.  Like always.
And those peons will be cheerleading for the leaders on every side,  just like always.  And then many of those peons will die.  On ALL sides. Like always.



And even our rightest of right-wing ammosexuals won't be their either.  They'll be too busy displaying their manliness by walking into places like Starbucks with assault rifles hanging on their shoulders.  Because that's what real mean who aren't afraid of anything do.  Cough pussies cough.


More threats from Iran Open-carry-ap

A war against Iran will involve the minimum amount of troops on the ground due to the fact that there will not be an invasion like Iraq/Astan. It will only involve the troops required to help drop specific types of laser guided munitions (JTACS) and SOF personnel to create chaos and havoc which should help stir up the resistance against the Ayatollas.



There won't be a war with Iran because that is an incredibly stupid idea only being floated by abject morons.

PeeDog seems to think that since Israel will use guided weapons that limit collateral damage, it is then okay to bomb your way to prosperity. Even though it will be an act of war and a gross invasion of Iranian sovereignty.

There won't be a war with Iran, because President Obama will not allow it. A million wingnuts might whine about it on a million forums all over the Internet, but the President will not budge on this issue.

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