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Farmers Agree with Carly Fiorina: Environmentalists Created California Drought...PROTECT THE DELTA SMELT!

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Markle

Markle

PROTECT THE DELTA SMELT! The heck with the humans!

Farmers Agree with Carly Fiorina: Environmentalists Created California Drought



The water wars have begun.

Former Hewlett-Packard CEO and potential 2016 Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina is blaming "overzealous liberal environmentalists" for the water shortages caused by California's ongoing drought. In a radio interview earlier in the week with Glenn Beck, and in a Tuesday an op-ed in Time, Fiorina has made the case that the water rationing instituted by Governor Jerry Brown could have been avoided. The problem, Fiorina says, is that the state has allowed environmental activists to influence policy.

"Specifically, these policies have resulted in the diversion of more than 300 billion gallons of water away from farmers in the Central Valley and into the San Francisco Bay in order to protect the Delta smelt, an endangered fish that environmentalists have continued to champion at the expense of Californians. This water is simply being washed out to sea, instead of being channeled to the people who desperately need it," Fiorina wrote in Time. "While they have watched this water wash out to sea, liberals have simultaneously prevented the construction of a single new reservoir or a single new water conveyance system over decades."

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-09/carly-fiorina-right-about-environmentalists-and-california-drought-woes-farm-groups-say

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Just like Pace Dog, semi-demented poster Markle thinks he is an expert on the California drought..... NOT!!!

The environmentalists and the delta smelt had nothing to do with the low snow pack and lack of rain that actually caused California's water shortage.

Failed former HP CEO and Senate candidate Carly Fiorina should stick to things she knows---she obviously knows very little about meteorology and Earth science!.

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Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Just like Pace Dog, semi-demented poster Markle thinks he is an expert on the California drought..... NOT!!!

The environmentalists and the delta smelt had nothing to do with the low snow pack and lack of rain that actually caused California's water shortage.

Failed former HP CEO and Senate candidate Carly Fiorina should stick to things she knows---she obviously knows very little about meteorology and Earth science!.

Do you think it adds to your post by childish name calling. Yeah, boy I'M IMPRESSED!

But the 300 BILLION GALLONS of water wasted does.

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

As a former Californian, let me point out the Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers both flow out to the sea at San Francisco -- without any help from environmentalists or anyone else.  While some agricultural water supplies have been reduced, the impact on overall water supply in California is minimal.


The real damage of the drought is the extraordinarily light snowfall, resulting in dramatically less snow-pack in the Sierra mountains -- and spring runoff will be severely reduced.

As for Carly Fiorina, she wasn't smart enough to keep her job at Hewlett Packard so they got rid of her.

Semi-Sane "I know NOSSING!" Markle has as much chance of being elected President as Mz. Fiorina

Reality.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Wordslinger wrote:As a former Californian, let me point out the Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers both flow out to the sea at San Francisco -- without any help from environmentalists or anyone else.  While some agricultural water supplies have been reduced, the impact on overall water supply in California is minimal.


The real damage of the drought is the extraordinarily light snowfall, resulting in dramatically less snow-pack in the Sierra mountains -- and spring runoff will be severely reduced.

As for Carly Fiorina, she wasn't smart enough to keep her job at Hewlett Packard so they got rid of her.

Semi-Sane "I know NOSSING!" Markle has as much chance of being elected President as Mz. Fiorina

Reality.

When was Obama a CEO of any type? About never and is still not one.

2seaoat



When was Obama a CEO of any type? About never and is still not one.


No, he is President. The question should be, when is Fiorina going to be relevant. It will not happen, and she certainly will not be President. As to President Obama being a CEO type, It will happen when ANY of our great Presidents were CEO types.....they were not.......nada, but of course that is because the Presidents are looking to provide for the General welfare of the citizens and not enrich five thousand families to the tune of 300 Billion. What America NEVER will need....CEO types. Romney types are exactly what is wrong with America.

Environmental issues and water management are a balance. The idea that killing an entire eco system because of global warming is so consistent with wanting CEOs to take what is left from the American Public........Pave paradise put up a parking lot.......don't it always seem to go you don't know what you got until its gone.

Markle

Markle

Just foolish. But you still make the best foil on this "forum".

Many of our former presidents were CEO "types". Any former governor is a CEO "type".

Being president is being the CEO of the country.

Chairing an ACORN meeting is NOT being a CEO.

KarlRove

KarlRove

Lol

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:Just foolish.  But you still make the best foil on this "forum".

Many of our former presidents were CEO "types".  Any former governor is a CEO "type".

Being president is being the CEO of the country.

Chairing an ACORN meeting is NOT being a CEO.

I absolutely enjoy reminding you and your demented War Hero sycophant that Barack Hussein Osama was elected twice to the Presidency of the United States, and remains it's CEO.  LOL



Carly Fiorina is unemployed and was a failure during her only reign as a CEO.

Markle

Markle

Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:Just foolish.  But you still make the best foil on this "forum".

Many of our former presidents were CEO "types".  Any former governor is a CEO "type".

Being president is being the CEO of the country.

Chairing an ACORN meeting is NOT being a CEO.

I absolutely enjoy reminding you and your demented War Hero sycophant that Barack Hussein Osama was elected twice to the Presidency of the United States, and remains it's CEO.  LOL

Carly Fiorina is unemployed and was a failure during her only reign as a CEO.

Semi-retired President Obama is a proven failure during his reign.

Farmers Agree with Carly Fiorina: Environmentalists Created California Drought...PROTECT THE DELTA SMELT! Socratestoo

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Markle wrote:
Wordslinger wrote:
Markle wrote:Just foolish.  But you still make the best foil on this "forum".

Many of our former presidents were CEO "types".  Any former governor is a CEO "type".

Being president is being the CEO of the country.

Chairing an ACORN meeting is NOT being a CEO.

I absolutely enjoy reminding you and your demented War Hero sycophant that Barack Hussein Osama was elected twice to the Presidency of the United States, and remains it's CEO.  LOL

Carly Fiorina is unemployed and was a failure during her only reign as a CEO.

Semi-retired President Obama is a proven failure during his reign.

Farmers Agree with Carly Fiorina: Environmentalists Created California Drought...PROTECT THE DELTA SMELT! Socratestoo
Obama is a "proven failure?" 

The economy is up, Wall Street is humming.

Unemployment is down.

Millions of low-income citizens have healthcare insurance, thanks to the ACA.

We've escaped going to war in the Ukraine.

We've diminished our efforts in Afghanistan.

He's kept our boots on the ground minimal in the chaos of the Mideast.

He's attempting to end Iran's development of nuclear weapons through diplomacy instead of dragging us into another bloody, costly and unwinnable war.

After decades of unremitting hatred for Cuba which punished the Cuban people while netting zero for the U.S., President Obama has opened the door to better relations with a neighbor which will reap benefits for both sides.

And he's done all of it while being black, and vociferously opposed by a party of old batshit crazy white men from the day he was first sworn-in.

He's continually advocated for raising the minimum wage, while a congress dominated by a party dedicated to the success of the 1% works to destroy the middle-class.

He knows that Global Warming is real and that environmental protection against wanton corporate practices is important for our country's future and our peoples' health.

To women, the young, college students, Latinos, and African-Americans, Obama's a remarkable success.
 
Bad news indeed for neocons, the MIC, and all the other home-grown enemies of America.

Some failure!

Reality.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Markle wrote:Just foolish.  But you still make the best foil on this "forum".

Many of our former presidents were CEO "types".  Any former governor is a CEO "type".

Being president is being the CEO of the country.

Chairing an ACORN meeting is NOT being a CEO.

Jesus was a community organizer.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


This woman is relevant HOW?

http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/186-186/3463-the-job-killing-touch-how-carly-fiorina-wrecked-hewlett-packard-and-the-bell-labs-and-set-american-science-decades-back-by-decades

“The Job-Killing Touch”: How Carly Fiorina Wrecked Hewlett-Packard and the Bell Labs, and Set American Science Back By Decades
Print
Written by Richard Rapaport
Wednesday, 29 September 2010 11:50

That Carly Fiorina was a one-woman wrecking crew during her tenure as CEO of Hewlett-Packard is a scandal that the Republican Senate standard bearer is spending millions to try and blunt. Running on her executive experience, it is hard to see how Fiorina can square her professed executive aptitude with the fact that as H-P CEO between 1999 and 2005, she single-handedly came near to sinking what was widely considered the world’s best technology company.

At Hewlett-Packard Fiorina was responsible for the ill-fated merger with Compaq, as well as firing nearly 30,000 employees and sending tens of thousands of jobs oversea. Never lacking in chutzpa, Fiorina celebrated the latter coup as “Right Shoring.” Things got so bad for H-P that in 2002, Arianna Packard, granddaughter of founder David Packard joined with Bill Hewlett, Walter Hewlett’s son, in a proxy fight to oust Fiorina. That moved failed, but in 2005, Fiorina was finally fired, and given a $20-million dollar settlement to just go away. In response H-P’ stock price bounced back by 10% in a single day. About Fiorina’s service at H-P Arianna Packard wrote, “I know a little bit about Carly Fiorina, having watched her almost destroy the company my grandfather founded.”

While the H-P episode is better known, Fiorina was involved in a much more damaging business disaster, one that America will continue to pay for for generations; the destruction of the Bell Laboratories. Beginning in 1995, Fiorina took over as the head of corporate operations of the AT&T spinoff, “Lucent Technologies” which included the Bell Labs.

That is where the trouble began.

For those unfamiliar with the Bell Labs, it was Ma Bell's gift to America, a place where monopoly telephone service was offset by a research business that employed over 25,000 scientists, engineers, mathematicians and researchers.

At the Bell Labs, research was considered an end unto itself, where, according to one executive, “you did something useful or you do something very beautiful.” The realm of the former included such immensely important breakthroughs as the transistor, the silicon microprocessor, the laser, fiber optics, the communications satellite, the UNIX and C++ computer operating systems. In the pursuit of improved communications, serendipity occurred such as in the form of the confirmation of the “Big Bang” theory which won physicist Arno Penzias a 1977 Nobel Prize. Penzias, the retired Bell Labs vice-president for research, put it best when he told this writer that “one of the great luxuries of the Bell Labs is that we don’t always need to get it right.” The Labs did get it right enough to amass more than 25,000 patents.

That all began changing in 1995 when a corporate team that included Carly Fiorina descended on the Bell Labs and began to pull the plug on pure research. According to Penzias, then clearly on the way out, “today we have an environment of interaction, while it is still collegial you now live with business-people.”

A key member of that latter group was Carly Fiorina who lead the housecleaning which let the scientists at Lucent know that they had better start looking for ways to “productize” their research. In 1997, Fiorina was appointed group president for global services and two years later, joined Hewlett-Packard.

What she left behind at Lucent/Bell Labs was a smoking ruin of what had been the world’s most important and productive research lab, an entity largely responsible for giving America the post-World War II boost that helped make the nation the world technology leader, contributing mightily to the prosperity that Americans took for granted but which came in no small measure from the pure research as practiced at the Bell Labs. By insisting that every piece of research be tied to a product, Fiorina and her ilk helped prevent a new generation of scientists from looking out over the far horizon and bringing back the kind of benefits that have come from such then-seemingly useless technologies including the transistor, laser, fiber optics.

The correlation between Fiorina’s tenure at the Bell Labs and the decline of American technology is tragic and is not coincidental. Despite the millions being spent on media to convince voters otherwise, Fiorina is one of those one-dimensional corporate bottom feeders whose only answer to fixing the bottom line is to fire thousands of people rather than finding creative ways to use the immense brainpower that could be used to grow a company and a nation out of economic hard times.

Voters, pay attention! Carly Fiorina’s purge at Lucent and disastrous tenure at H-P highlights her as the kind of retrograde executive a struggling California economy cannot afford to elect to higher office. Fiorina has already proven to be an uncreative corporate drone and a sheer catastrophe for American business and technology. So far she has not shown herself capable of mastering the long-term strategic thinking necessary to truly succeed in American business. That creativity was never apparent when Fiorina was at H-P and certainly not when she was at the Bell Labs. It is a similarly tough stretch to imagine a Senator Fiorina bringing anything but her "killing touch" to politics and governance.

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Wordslinger

Wordslinger

Floridatexan wrote:
This woman is relevant HOW?

http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/186-186/3463-the-job-killing-touch-how-carly-fiorina-wrecked-hewlett-packard-and-the-bell-labs-and-set-american-science-decades-back-by-decades

“The Job-Killing Touch”: How Carly Fiorina Wrecked Hewlett-Packard and the Bell Labs, and Set American Science Back By Decades
Print
Written by Richard Rapaport  
Wednesday, 29 September 2010 11:50

That Carly Fiorina was a one-woman wrecking crew during her tenure as CEO of Hewlett-Packard is a scandal that the Republican Senate standard bearer is spending millions to try and blunt. Running on her executive experience, it is hard to see how Fiorina can square her professed executive aptitude with the fact that as H-P CEO between 1999 and 2005, she single-handedly came near to sinking what was widely considered the world’s best technology company.

At Hewlett-Packard Fiorina was responsible for the ill-fated merger with Compaq, as well as firing nearly 30,000 employees and sending tens of thousands of jobs oversea. Never lacking in chutzpa, Fiorina celebrated the latter coup as “Right Shoring.” Things got so bad for H-P that in 2002, Arianna Packard, granddaughter of founder David Packard joined with Bill Hewlett, Walter Hewlett’s son, in a proxy fight to oust Fiorina. That moved failed, but in 2005, Fiorina was finally fired, and given a $20-million dollar settlement to just go away. In response H-P’ stock price bounced back by 10% in a single day. About Fiorina’s service at H-P Arianna Packard wrote, “I know a little bit about Carly Fiorina, having watched her almost destroy the company my grandfather founded.”

While the H-P episode is better known, Fiorina was involved in a much more damaging business disaster, one that America will continue to pay for for generations; the destruction of the Bell Laboratories. Beginning in 1995, Fiorina took over as the head of corporate operations of the AT&T spinoff, “Lucent Technologies” which included the Bell Labs.

That is where the trouble began.

For those unfamiliar with the Bell Labs, it was Ma Bell's gift to America, a place where monopoly telephone service was offset by a research business that employed over 25,000 scientists, engineers, mathematicians and researchers.

At the Bell Labs, research was considered an end unto itself, where, according to one executive, “you did something useful or you do something very beautiful.” The realm of the former included such immensely important breakthroughs as the transistor, the silicon microprocessor, the laser, fiber optics, the communications satellite, the UNIX and C++ computer operating systems. In the pursuit of improved communications, serendipity occurred such as in the form of the confirmation of the “Big Bang” theory which won physicist Arno Penzias a 1977 Nobel Prize. Penzias, the retired Bell Labs vice-president for research, put it best when he told this writer that “one of the great luxuries of the Bell Labs is that we don’t always need to get it right.” The Labs did get it right enough to amass more than 25,000 patents.

That all began changing in 1995 when a corporate team that included Carly Fiorina descended on the Bell Labs and began to pull the plug on pure research. According to Penzias, then clearly on the way out, “today we have an environment of interaction, while it is still collegial you now live with business-people.”

A key member of that latter group was Carly Fiorina who lead the housecleaning which let the scientists at Lucent know that they had better start looking for ways to “productize” their research. In 1997, Fiorina was appointed group president for global services and two years later, joined Hewlett-Packard.

What she left behind at Lucent/Bell Labs was a smoking ruin of what had been the world’s most important and productive research lab, an entity largely responsible for giving America the post-World War II boost that helped make the nation the world technology leader, contributing mightily to the prosperity that Americans took for granted but which came in no small measure from the pure research as practiced at the Bell Labs. By insisting that every piece of research be tied to a product, Fiorina and her ilk helped prevent a new generation of scientists from looking out over the far horizon and bringing back the kind of benefits that have come from such then-seemingly useless technologies including the transistor, laser, fiber optics.

The correlation between Fiorina’s tenure at the Bell Labs and the decline of American technology is tragic and is not coincidental. Despite the millions being spent on media to convince voters otherwise, Fiorina is one of those one-dimensional corporate bottom feeders whose only answer to fixing the bottom line is to fire thousands of people rather than finding creative ways to use the immense brainpower that could be used to grow a company and a nation out of economic hard times.

Voters, pay attention! Carly Fiorina’s purge at Lucent and disastrous tenure at H-P highlights her as the kind of retrograde executive a struggling California economy cannot afford to elect to higher office. Fiorina has already proven to be an uncreative corporate drone and a sheer catastrophe for American business and technology. So far she has not shown herself capable of mastering the long-term strategic thinking necessary to truly succeed in American business. That creativity was never apparent when Fiorina was at H-P and certainly not when she was at the Bell Labs. It is a similarly tough stretch to imagine a Senator Fiorina bringing anything but her "killing touch" to politics and governance.

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How dare you attack republicans with facts!!

2seaoat



Mr. Markle......we have had 43 Presidents sworn into office. Please tell me how many had been CEO of any American Corporation? You post propaganda which is idiotic. It would be like posting that Babe Ruth was not a very good baseball player because he had never sold peanuts, because a peanut vendor was criticizing his baseball play. So after you tell us about those presidents who were never CEOs, you will probably tell me about a peanut farmer.

The water crisis in the west requires massive investment in infrastructure bringing water from the east. We need to invest in America without destroying our environment or pouring our wealth down rabbit holes as the military spends us into oblivion.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

I love it when semi-demented poster Markle starts a thread that you absolutely know he will receive a thrashing on. This is one of those! Razz

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Markle

Markle

2seaoat wrote:Mr. Markle......we have had 43 Presidents sworn into office.  Please tell me how many had been CEO of any American Corporation?   You post propaganda which is idiotic.  It would be like posting that Babe Ruth was not a very good baseball player because he had never sold peanuts, because a peanut vendor was criticizing his baseball play.  So after you tell us about those presidents who were never CEOs, you will probably tell me about a peanut farmer.

The water crisis in the west requires massive investment in infrastructure bringing water from the east.  We need to invest in America without destroying our environment or pouring our wealth down rabbit holes as the military spends us into oblivion.

The governor of any state is the CEO of that state. The mayor of most cities is the CEO of that city. Semi-retired President Obama is the CEO of America albeit the worst CEO in modern history.

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I love it when semi-demented poster Markle starts a thread that you absolutely know he will receive a thrashing on. This is one of those! Razz

Farmers Agree with Carly Fiorina: Environmentalists Created California Drought...PROTECT THE DELTA SMELT! Socratestoo

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:Farmers Agree with Carly Fiorina: Environmentalists Created California Drought...PROTECT THE DELTA SMELT! Socratestoo

Farmers Agree with Carly Fiorina: Environmentalists Created California Drought...PROTECT THE DELTA SMELT! Crying12

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Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:Farmers Agree with Carly Fiorina: Environmentalists Created California Drought...PROTECT THE DELTA SMELT! Socratestoo

Farmers Agree with Carly Fiorina: Environmentalists Created California Drought...PROTECT THE DELTA SMELT! Crying12

THUS, confirming my post!

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Confirming what? You obviously have no knowledge of your subject, and apparently neither does your source.

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