8.3 to 8.1% of unemployment

The reality is that we have not recovered. Yes there has been 30 months of a positive job growth, but we have a long way to go. We need to put Americans first. We need massive job creation tax credits and we need to pay for those with increased revenues. The average American is getting the snot kicked out of them, and it is time to elect people who will really address the needs of the middle class. The American people can win, and we must. The obstructionist can go to hell.

This administration is doing such a wonderful job. Not.

National Debt
2009: 10.6 Trillion
Now: 16 Trillion
Treasurydirect.gov

Food Stamps
2009: 32.2 million people enrolled
Now: 46.2 million people enrolled
Bloomberg.com

Unemployment
2009: 7.8%
Now: 8.1%
bls.gov

Median Household Income
2009: $54,983
Now: $50,964
forbes.com

Gas Prices
2009: $1.85
Now: $3.80
Consumerreports.org
eia.gov

nochain wrote:This administration is doing such a wonderful job. Not.

National Debt
2009: 10.6 Trillion
Now: 16 Trillion
Treasurydirect.gov

Food Stamps
2009: 32.2 million people enrolled
Now: 46.2 million people enrolled
Bloomberg.com

Unemployment
2009: 7.8%
Now: 8.1%
bls.gov

Median Household Income
2009: $54,983
Now: $50,964
forbes.com

Gas Prices
2009: $1.85
Now: $3.80
Consumerreports.org
eia.gov

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OK.....is there any honesty?....One report has the 8.1% as an accomplishment of the administration that it continues to be a slow recovery process...the another has the same figure as a negative and indicates that MORE people have stopped looking for jobs?...Which is it?...This is what is wrong with spinning over reporting actual numbers pertaining to unemployment...Taking the names out of the process...if you owned a business and had a ceo/manager etc., with this kind of record would that be good or bad business to keep that person?...

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4
2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.7 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.9 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.6 5.8 6.1 6.1 6.5 6.8 7.3
2009 7.8 8.3 8.7 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.5 9.6 9.8 10.0 9.9 9.9
2010 9.7 9.8 9.8 9.9 9.6 9.4 9.5 9.6 9.5 9.5 9.8 9.4
2011 9.1 9.0 8.9 9.0 9.0 9.1 9.1 9.1 9.0 8.9 8.7 8.5
2012 8.3 8.3 8.2 8.1 8.2 8.2 8.3 8.1

So the 2008 crash was Obama's fault? It looks like the President has made steady progress getting this country out of the ditch. Again, the American public was in a vehicle driven by policy which was like a drunk driver with a quart of Jack in their hand swerving all over the road.....eventually the car goes crashing into the ditch and really hurts the passengers, and the passengers decide to vote among themselves and choose another driver to get them out of the ditch. The driver grabs his bottle takes a swig, and decides to stand in front of the car as the new driver is trying to get the vehicle out of the ditch......the new driver does not really have the experience, and he buries the wheels as the drunk driver is blocking his path back to the road....eventually the car starts getting traction despite the obstructions, and when the the car is almost on the road, the drunk driver with the Jack in his hand says to the passengers......give me the car keys.......this driver took too long to get you folks out of the ditch.

2seaoat wrote:this driver took too long to get you folks out of the ditch.

Right, after nearly 4 years everything is still Bush's fault. What a tired old song. BHO made some fantastic promises back in 2008 (apparently he didn't think things were so bad or more likely he was, and still is, extraordinarily naive) but instead he has turned out to be divisive, deceitful, and incompetent. Is the alternative to BHO any better? Who knows.

I voted for Bush both times, and yes giving tax breaks to the highest income Americans while fighting two wars was a huge policy mistake because as a fiscal conservative Main Street Republican, the policies were simple insanity. We now have a choice to get the vehicle out of the ditch and choose a driver. I am more concerned with a road map which keeps us out of the ditch......not returning to policy which put us there.



It is the policy choice.........Obama has been clear and consistent. I do not agree that we need more teachers, fire fighters, and police, but I agree that we need more revenue. I believe that Romney will take any path which benefits him......that is the one thing which has been consistent in his life.

nochain wrote:National Debt
2009: 10.6 Trillion
Now: 16 Trillion
Treasurydirect.gov

Food Stamps
2009: 32.2 million people enrolled
Now: 46.2 million people enrolled
Bloomberg.com

Unemployment
2009: 7.8%
Now: 8.1%
bls.gov

Median Household Income
2009: $54,983
Now: $50,964
forbes.com

Gas Prices
2009: $1.85
Now: $3.80
Consumerreports.org
eia.gov

Debt: Bush was fortunate enough to inherit a $142.7 billion dollar budget surplus whereas Obama inherited a $1.274 trillion dollar deficit. This has a major impact on the national debt.



Food Stamps: And in 2001, there were 17 million people on food stamps. The food stamp explosion began that year.



Unemployment: Bush inherited an economy that was adding over 200,000 jobs per month, whereas Obama inherited an economy that was shedding over 800,000 jobs per month. This has a major impact on the unemployment rate.



Median household income: See Food Stamps.

Gas Prices: There was a financial crisis taking hold in the fall of 2008 that caused housing, stocks, GDP, jobs, etc... and gas prices to fall precipitously.





As one who has falsely complained about cherry picking numbers (see below), this is exactly what you are doing right here in this thread. I could do the same thing and say "Wow! Look at the stock market since Obama has taken office! It has exploded! What a great president!" But I don't, because I understand the numbers.

nochain wrote:More cherry picking. Unfortunately for BHO his "job score" is even worse than Bushs. Here, let me say it for you partisan liberal hacks: "But it was all Bushs fault". It actually started with Clinton who repealed Glass-Steagall but don't let that little bit of history turn your head.

nochain wrote:Careful cherry picking and obfuscation of facts has become the mantra of both parties. This country is a mess and people are still "believin" in the idiots running for office. Amazing.

Paul Volcker slaughtered Carter's chances of being reelected. Paul Volcker made Reagan look like a miracle worker. Greenspan did the same for every President until the Fed policies (or lack thereof) blew up in Bush's face.

Adding to the theme......BEN BERNANKE STOPPED THE FREEFALL, NOT OBAMA!

Margin Call wrote:Paul Volcker slaughtered Carter's chances of being reelected. Paul Volcker made Reagan look like a miracle worker. Greenspan did the same for every President until the Fed policies (or lack thereof) blew up in Bush's face.

Adding to the theme......BEN BERNANKE STOPPED THE FREEFALL, NOT OBAMA!

Romney says he's going to fire Bernanke.

Margin Call,

What's your take on this...

https://pensacoladiscussion.forumotion.com/t1872-jobs-score-republicans-24-million-democrats-42-million

Bob wrote:

Margin Call wrote:Paul Volcker slaughtered Carter's chances of being reelected. Paul Volcker made Reagan look like a miracle worker. Greenspan did the same for every President until the Fed policies (or lack thereof) blew up in Bush's face.

Adding to the theme......BEN BERNANKE STOPPED THE FREEFALL, NOT OBAMA!

Romney says he's going to fire Bernanke.

....and replace him with a clone.

MAJOR CRASH IN UNEMPLOYMENT! No wonder President Barack Hussein Obama had no "ZIP" last night. He knew the miserable numbers.


Drudge Report
8.1%
+96,000 [It takes 125,000 to 150,000 just to keep even with population growth]
FED SET TO PUMP
368,000 DROPPED OUT [Nearly FOUR WORKS DROPPED OUT of the work force for every ONE who found a job]
88,921,000 'NOT IN LABOR FORCE'

Workforce participation rate for men 69.9% - lowest since 1948...