NY City cops work stoppage

http://nypost.com/2014/12/29/arrests-plummet-following-execution-of-two-cops/

You have to sympathize with the NYPD. Believing that you are being aggressively and unfairly policed is a horrible feeling.- LOLGOP

KarlRove wrote:http://nypost.com/2014/12/29/arrests-plummet-following-execution-of-two-cops/

As usual, the cops love to shoot themselves in the foot. With falling arrests will be a big statistical drop in crime. Then the people of NY will need to ask why are they paying for so many cops?

The NYPD are acting like spoiled bullying brats, and they're taking it out on the people of NY.

The good news is, while they are not aggressively "policing" the city, there are fewer unarmed black people being harassed or choked to death.

Reality.

The tail has been wagging the dog for too long and this boorish behavior will finally begin the process of budget cuts and bringing down this standing domestic army. Can you say PATCO?

New York Police Department, the finest Police force in the world being denigrated by the mayor.

How is that a good thing?

New York Police Department, the finest Police force in the world being denigrated by the mayor.

How is that a good thing?


Are you kidding. A department rife with corruption and abuse over the last fifty years with a police union which protected corruption and mob ties and turned their back on any attempts for honest citizens to say enough......There needs to be DEEP reforms in the NY police department and other departments across the country. The citizens of this country are not the enemy, and union rules of keeping the status quo is not good public policy. At least we know Mr. Markle you are a good police union man......and that is the problem.....Just start chanting the mantra.....PATCO.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/whos-blaming-de-blasio-for-shooting.html

So, Who’s Blaming Mayor de Blasio and Anti-Police-Brutality Protesters for the NYPD Shooting?

On Saturday night, just minutes after ambulances had pulled away from Woodhull Medical Center with the bodies of slain NYPD officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos, Patrolmen's Benevolent Association president Pat Lynch addressed the media: "There's blood on many hands tonight," he bellowed. "Those that incited violence on the street under the guise of protest, that tried to tear down what New York City police officers did every day — we tried to warn it must not go on, it cannot be tolerated. That blood on the hands starts on the steps of City Hall, in the office of the mayor." Unfortunately, Lynch — who just last week was encouraging cops to ban de Blasio from their funerals — was not the only person insisting that someone other than 28-year-old Ismaaiyl Brinsley was responsible for the murders of Ramos and Liu.

Lynch's ugly rhetoric was immediately echoed by another police union, the Sergeants Benevolent Association, which tweeted this on Saturday night:


In a longer statement, SBA head Ed Mullins said, "Mayor de Blasio, the blood of these two officers is clearly on your hands. It is your failed policies and actions that enabled this tragedy to occur. I only hope and pray that more of these ambushes and executions do not happen again."

Former New York governor George Pataki, who might try to run for president, also tweeted out a message shortly after the shooting:


By Sunday morning, several other erstwhile leaders were ready to weigh in as well. Michael Bloomberg's police commissioner, Ray Kelly, told George Stephanopoulos that de Blasio encouraged violence by candidly trying to explain the perspective of anti-police-brutality protesters. "I think when the mayor made statements about that he had to train his son — who is biracial — to be careful when he's dealing with the police, I think that set off this latest firestorm," said Kelly. "And quite frankly, the mayor ran an anti-police campaign last year when he ran for mayor."

Meanwhile, another former police commissioner, Bernie Kerik (who, lest we forget, is also an ex-con), had this to say:

"In this circumstance I believe, I personally feel, that Mayor de Blasio, [Al] Sharpton and others like them, they actually have blood on their hands. They encouraged this behavior. They encouraged protests. These so-called peaceful protests that, where people are standing out there saying 'kill the cops,' well, I hope they're happy, because they got what they wanted."

Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani was slightly more reasonable, saying that, "It goes too far to blame the mayor for the murder or to ask for the mayor’s resignation." However, he was sure to say that de Blasio had not handled the protesters properly, thereby creating an environment that was conducive to cop-killing:

"We've had four months of propaganda starting with the president that everybody should hate the police," said Giuliani. "The protests are being embraced, the protests are being encouraged. The protests, even the ones that don’t lead to violence, a lot of them lead to violence, all lead to a conclusion. The police are bad, the police are racist. That is completely wrong."

Republican senator Lindsey Graham took a similar approach on Face the Nation. "I blame the shooter and nobody else." But!

"I think the mayor of New York has probably undercut his cops, and the attorney general is trying to walk a fine line. What happened in Missouri, I understand why the cop had to defend himself. When you see the video in New York — did that man really have to die? But the tone they’re setting around the rhetoric regarding the cops incites crazy people, but I blame the shooter."

Meanwhile, a petition accusing de Blasio of "throwing [the police] under the bus" and demanding his resignation had gathered nearly 54,000 signatures by Sunday evening.

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It is shameful to try and politicize the deaths of these two policemen.

Meanwhile, another former police commissioner, Bernie Kerik (who, lest we forget, is also an ex-con), had this to say:

"In this circumstance I believe, I personally feel, that Mayor de Blasio, [Al] Sharpton and others like them, they actually have blood on their hands. They encouraged this behavior. They encouraged protests. These so-called peaceful protests that, where people are standing out there saying 'kill the cops,' well, I hope they're happy, because they got what they wanted."

Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani was slightly more reasonable, saying that, "It goes too far to blame the mayor for the murder or to ask for the mayor’s resignation." However, he was sure to say that de Blasio had not handled the protesters properly, thereby creating an environment that was conducive to cop-killing:

"We've had four months of propaganda starting with the president that everybody should hate the police," said Giuliani. "The protests are being embraced, the protests are being encouraged. The protests, even the ones that don’t lead to violence, a lot of them lead to violence, all lead to a conclusion. The police are bad, the police are racist. That is completely wrong."

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This excerpt reminded me of Rudy, so I looked him up. Read what I found:

http://prospect.org/article/real-rudy-1

for the loser now later wins

The mayor should cut the force and apply personnel as an even resource across the city irregardless of crime rates.

Anything more is profiling and racist.

You got part of it right.

Sal wrote:So, their brilliant and devious plan is to show the people who believe that the NYPD is full of power-hungry assholes and paramilitary goons what's what by displaying to the country exactly how most of the arrests they make are in fact wholly unnecessary exercises of petty aggression towards the citizens they hold in open contempt?

Good plan!

In the land of unintended consequences...

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/27811-the-nypds-work-stoppage-is-surreal

The NYPD's Work Stoppage Is Surreal

By Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone
01 January 15


"In an alternate universe, the New York Police might have just solved the national community-policing controversy..."

Floridatexan wrote:
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/27811-the-nypds-work-stoppage-is-surreal

The NYPD's Work Stoppage Is Surreal

By Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone
01 January 15


"In an alternate universe, the New York Police might have just solved the national community-policing controversy..."

Good stuff ...

It’s incredibly ironic that the police have chosen to abandon quality-of-life actions like public urination tickets and open-container violations, because it’s precisely these types of interactions that are at the heart of the Broken Windows polices that so infuriate residents of so-called “hot spot” neighborhoods.

In an alternate universe where this pseudo-strike wasn’t the latest sortie in a standard-issue right-versus left political showdown, one could imagine this protest as a progressive or even a libertarian strike, in which police refused to work as backdoor tax-collectors and/or implement Minority Report-style pre-emptive policing policies, which is what a lot of these Broken Windows-type arrests amount to.

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It would be amazing if this NYPD protest somehow brought parties on all sides to a place where we could all agree that policing should just go back to a policy of officers arresting people “when they have to.”

Because it’s wrong to put law enforcement in the position of having to make up for budget shortfalls with parking tickets, and it’s even more wrong to ask its officers to soak already cash-strapped residents of hot spot neighborhoods with mountains of summonses as part of a some stats-based crime-reduction strategy.