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Why the US will power the world economy in 2015

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ZVUGKTUBM

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KarlRove

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Because we will hire only illegals and keep labor costs cheap while running fellow Americans out of a job.

boards of FL

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Thanks, Obama!


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I wonder if 2015 will be a good year for stocks?

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boards of FL

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Good year for stocks. Good year for the economic growth. Good year for jobs. Good year for energy. Good year for deficit reduction.

Bad year for republicans.


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KarlRove

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How are jobs good? Hmmmm record numbers of people on unemployment, record numbers of people on welfare.....record numbers of people not in labor pool

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boards of FL wrote:

Bad year for republicans.

If the republicans are so hated and the democrats are so loved, how do you explain the results of the midterm elections?

KarlRove

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boards of FL

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Bob wrote:
boards of FL wrote:

Bad year for republicans.

If the republicans are so hated and the democrats are so loved,  how do you explain the results of the midterm elections?




Because, historically, we almost always see a swing to the opposition in the second term, mid-term election. The election results were a surprise to absolutely no one but the KarlRoves and Markles of the world.


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If the republicans are so hated and the democrats are so loved, how do you explain the results of the midterm elections?

It was a structural election with little doubt that Republicans would prevail as most of the seats gained were in Dixiecrat states. In 2016, the swing states and blue states will have exposed Republicans and Democrats will take the senate back and the White House and people will be saying this election was a democratic mandate.....it will not be. The experts with 97% accuracy predicted the outcome of this structural election and the plurality nationwide was only a 2% difference. It was not what is trying to be represented, unless you have an IQ of a toaster.

If someone seven years ago during the campaign said any Republican or any Democrat could have achieved what President Obama has achieved, they would have been laughed off the stage by the talking heads and experts.......it was impossible. He did it. He is smiling a lot lately. He is about to smile a great deal more when stupid comes after Hombre. Nothing hard to figure here. President Obama is about to become Elvis and the Beatles all wrapped up in one.

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Two thirds of the state legislatures are pub controlled too... probably because states can't print their own money.

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Two thirds of the state legislatures are pub controlled too... probably because states can't print their own money.


Nope....you are smarter than that........North Dakota, South Dakota, and California......two thirds are republican......yep, as the rural west and south is the base of Republican Party, but the entire population of those two states would not come near the population of San Diego or LA. This is why the Republicans structurally each year are having a more difficult time winning the Presidency as the electoral college has become so stacked in populous states that the rural low population states have become irrelevant, It is Florida, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Michigan, and Wisconsin which will need to be swept by a Republican to win the Presidency......unless a sudden death, or scandal......not going to happen any time soon. Nothing is impossible, but the odds are increasingly looking like the Presidency will remain Democratic.

KarlRove

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boards of FL wrote:
Bob wrote:
boards of FL wrote:

Bad year for republicans.

If the republicans are so hated and the democrats are so loved,  how do you explain the results of the midterm elections?




Because, historically, we almost always see a swing to the opposition in the second term, mid-term election.  The election results were a surprise to absolutely no one but the KarlRoves and Markles of the world.

Excuses are like _________.

KarlRove

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2seaoat wrote:Two thirds of the state legislatures are pub controlled too... probably because states can't print their own money.


Nope....you are smarter than that........North Dakota, South Dakota, and California......two thirds are republican......yep, as the rural west and south is the base of Republican Party, but the entire population of those two states would not come near the population of San Diego or LA.   This is why the Republicans structurally each year are having a more difficult time winning the Presidency as the electoral college has become so stacked in populous states that the rural low population states have become irrelevant,  It is Florida, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Michigan, and Wisconsin which will need to be swept by a Republican to win the Presidency......unless a sudden death, or scandal......not going to happen any time soon.  Nothing is impossible, but the odds are increasingly looking like the Presidency will remain Democratic.

Not with Obama's continued arrogance.

boards of FL

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PkrBum wrote:Two thirds of the state legislatures are pub controlled too... probably because states can't print their own money.


Gerrymandering. How many times does this need to be explained to you? Have you no capacity to remember and learn?


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boards of FL wrote:Good year for stocks.  Good year for the economic growth.  Good year for jobs.  Good year for energy.  Good year for deficit reduction.  

Bad year for republicans.

It would be better to focus on debt reduction.  Now, that would be impressive.

boards of FL

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colaguy wrote:
boards of FL wrote:Good year for stocks.  Good year for the economic growth.  Good year for jobs.  Good year for energy.  Good year for deficit reduction.  

Bad year for republicans.

It would be better to focus on debt reduction.  Now, that would be impressive.


How many times must this be explained to you?  How does one go about focusing on debt reduction?  

Imagine if I were to say "My new years resolution is to start exercising daily and eating healthy", and then you were to see someone reply "It would be better to focus on weight loss", what would think about that person's intelligence?

Seriously.

In other news, Peyton Manning says that if they are going to defeat New England on the road, he's going to have to step up his game and throw more passing TD's and also facilitate the run game and rushing TD's.

Coach John Fox disagreed.  Coach Fox says it would be better to focus on scoring more and producing and effective offense.

That's you, colaguy.  That's you.


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How can we lead the world economy and be the number 2 economy in the world?

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boards of FL wrote:
colaguy wrote:
boards of FL wrote:Good year for stocks.  Good year for the economic growth.  Good year for jobs.  Good year for energy.  Good year for deficit reduction.  

Bad year for republicans.

It would be better to focus on debt reduction.  Now, that would be impressive.


How many times must this be explained to you?  How does one go about focusing on debt reduction?  

Imagine if I were to say "My new years resolution is to start exercising daily and eating healthy", and then you were to see someone reply "It would be better to focus on weight loss", what would think about that person's intelligence?

Seriously.

In other news, Peyton Manning says that if they are going to defeat New England on the road, he's going to have to step up his game and throw more passing TD's and also facilitate the run game and rushing TD's.

Coach John Fox disagreed.  Coach Fox says it would be better to focus on scoring more and producing and effective offense.

That's you, colaguy.  That's you.

Clearly you have disconnect between deficit and debt. If Congress reduces this year's deficit to zero, that adds no new debt (for this year). But the act of reducing the deficit to zero did nothing to reduce the (currently massive) debt.

KarlRove

KarlRove

colaguy wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
colaguy wrote:
boards of FL wrote:Good year for stocks.  Good year for the economic growth.  Good year for jobs.  Good year for energy.  Good year for deficit reduction.  

Bad year for republicans.

It would be better to focus on debt reduction.  Now, that would be impressive.


How many times must this be explained to you?  How does one go about focusing on debt reduction?  

Imagine if I were to say "My new years resolution is to start exercising daily and eating healthy", and then you were to see someone reply "It would be better to focus on weight loss", what would think about that person's intelligence?

Seriously.

In other news, Peyton Manning says that if they are going to defeat New England on the road, he's going to have to step up his game and throw more passing TD's and also facilitate the run game and rushing TD's.

Coach John Fox disagreed.  Coach Fox says it would be better to focus on scoring more and producing and effective offense.

That's you, colaguy.  That's you.

Clearly you have disconnect between deficit and debt. If Congress reduces this year's deficit to zero, that adds no new debt (for this year). But the act of reducing the deficit to zero did nothing to reduce the (currently massive) debt.

Exactly. BOF doesn't realize what type of interest is piling up on the 18 trillion we already owe.

boards of FL

boards of FL

colaguy wrote:
boards of FL wrote:
colaguy wrote:
boards of FL wrote:Good year for stocks.  Good year for the economic growth.  Good year for jobs.  Good year for energy.  Good year for deficit reduction.  

Bad year for republicans.

It would be better to focus on debt reduction.  Now, that would be impressive.


How many times must this be explained to you?  How does one go about focusing on debt reduction?  

Imagine if I were to say "My new years resolution is to start exercising daily and eating healthy", and then you were to see someone reply "It would be better to focus on weight loss", what would think about that person's intelligence?

Seriously.

In other news, Peyton Manning says that if they are going to defeat New England on the road, he's going to have to step up his game and throw more passing TD's and also facilitate the run game and rushing TD's.

Coach John Fox disagreed.  Coach Fox says it would be better to focus on scoring more and producing and effective offense.

That's you, colaguy.  That's you.

Clearly you have disconnect between deficit and debt. If Congress reduces this year's deficit to zero, that adds no new debt (for this year). But the act of reducing the deficit to zero did nothing to reduce the (currently massive) debt.



Ho...ly...shit...


colaguy.  Serious question, what has to happen in order for the debt to decrease?  What is debt a function of?


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Clearly you have disconnect between deficit and debt. If Congress reduces this year's deficit to zero, that adds no new debt (for this year). But the act of reducing the deficit to zero did nothing to reduce the (currently massive) debt.


Ok, I think we all get your focus on the national debt.  I also think it would be fair to say almost everybody finds the ratio of debt to earnings is too high.

So do we cut government spending and take a deep walk down the trail of austerity, or do we fire up the GDP and increase revenues to pay down the debt.

John makes 50k a year.  He has 50k of debt, and is running 1k a month deficits living on credit cards.  He has a 700 dollar a month car payment, a 2k house payment, and 1.3k a month discretionary spending for his 50k.  Somebody says, John you have too much debt, you need to quit worrying about the credit cards and pay down debt.  So this financial advisor tells him to quit investing in clothing, and cuts his discretionary spending by 300 a month.  He tells him to get rid of the car and take the bus, and he saved 700 a month.  He is told to sell the house and get an apartment for 1k a month, but this is an hour from where the jobs are.  John starts showing up to work and is dressing rather dowdy as his reviews drop and his earnings are cut to 40k a year, but he has cut his debt by 20k for a net 10k a year reduction in debt.

Smart Paul begins cutting unnecessary discretionary spending, and invests in a degree which allows him to get a 80k a year job.  He has 30k a year to apply to debt........is austerity and john the right path by centering on debt, or is investing in the future and raising revenue the better way to decrease debt.   It is how this country chooses to reduce debt, not the fact that there is debt which is important.  President Obama has been brilliant in decreasing debt while growing the economy.  His efforts have been historic, yet John is saying you have to focus on debt.......nope, more revenue and a plan takes care of debt.

KarlRove

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2seaoat wrote:Clearly you have disconnect between deficit and debt. If Congress reduces this year's deficit to zero, that adds no new debt (for this year). But the act of reducing the deficit to zero did nothing to reduce the (currently massive) debt.


Ok, I think we all get your focus on the national debt.  I also think it would be fair to say almost everybody finds the ratio of debt to earnings is too high.

So do we cut government spending and take a deep walk down the trail of austerity, or do we fire up the GDP and increase revenues to pay down the debt.

John makes 50k a year.  He has 50k of debt, and is running 1k a month deficits living on credit cards.  He has a 700 dollar a month car payment, a 2k house payment, and 1.3k a month discretionary spending for his 50k.  Somebody says, John you have too much debt, you need to quit worrying about the credit cards and pay down debt.  So this financial advisor tells him to quit investing in clothing, and cuts his discretionary spending by 300 a month.  He tells him to get rid of the car and take the bus, and he saved 700 a month.  He is told to sell the house and get an apartment for 1k a month, but this is an hour from where the jobs are.  John starts showing up to work and is dressing rather dowdy as his reviews drop and his earnings are cut to 40k a year, but he has cut his debt by 20k for a net 10k a year reduction in debt.

Smart Paul begins cutting unnecessary discretionary spending, and invests in a degree which allows him to get a 80k a year job.  He has 30k a year to apply to debt........is austerity and john the right path by centering on debt, or is investing in the future and raising revenue the better way to decrease debt.   It is how this country chooses to reduce debt, not the fact that there is debt which is important.  President Obama has been brilliant in decreasing debt while growing the economy.  His efforts have been historic, yet John is saying you have to focus on debt.......nope, more revenue and a plan takes care of debt.

John doesn't make enough money to have been approved for a 2k per month house loan, much less the other debt you describe. You just added student loan debt after erasing other debt and in this economy, we know that decent paying jobs aren't just laying around out there for the taking. You're a simpleton.

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2seaoat wrote:Clearly you have disconnect between deficit and debt. If Congress reduces this year's deficit to zero, that adds no new debt (for this year). But the act of reducing the deficit to zero did nothing to reduce the (currently massive) debt.


Ok, I think we all get your focus on the national debt.  I also think it would be fair to say almost everybody finds the ratio of debt to earnings is too high.

So do we cut government spending and take a deep walk down the trail of austerity, or do we fire up the GDP and increase revenues to pay down the debt.

John makes 50k a year.  He has 50k of debt, and is running 1k a month deficits living on credit cards.  He has a 700 dollar a month car payment, a 2k house payment, and 1.3k a month discretionary spending for his 50k.  Somebody says, John you have too much debt, you need to quit worrying about the credit cards and pay down debt.  So this financial advisor tells him to quit investing in clothing, and cuts his discretionary spending by 300 a month.  He tells him to get rid of the car and take the bus, and he saved 700 a month.  He is told to sell the house and get an apartment for 1k a month, but this is an hour from where the jobs are.  John starts showing up to work and is dressing rather dowdy as his reviews drop and his earnings are cut to 40k a year, but he has cut his debt by 20k for a net 10k a year reduction in debt.

Smart Paul begins cutting unnecessary discretionary spending, and invests in a degree which allows him to get a 80k a year job.  He has 30k a year to apply to debt........is austerity and john the right path by centering on debt, or is investing in the future and raising revenue the better way to decrease debt.   It is how this country chooses to reduce debt, not the fact that there is debt which is important.  President Obama has been brilliant in decreasing debt while growing the economy.  His efforts have been historic, yet John is saying you have to focus on debt.......nope, more revenue and a plan takes care of debt.

"Ok, I think we all get your focus on the national debt."     Finally!

"Somebody says, John you have too much debt, you need to quit worrying about the credit cards and pay down debt."  These are both the same thing. Your running credit card balance is your debt.  Similarly, the nation's debt ($18T) can be likened to a credit card running balance.  Currently all we are doing is paying the interest on the debt, not reducing the debt balance.

"It is how this country chooses to reduce debt, not the fact that there is debt which is important."  Clearly this country has not chosen to reduce the debt, as it continues to increase.  Get back to me when the country decides to do one or the other of your suggestions.

"President Obama has been brilliant in decreasing debt while growing the economy."
 Can you be serious?!  The debt is now larger than ever. The debt has not been reduced an iota under the current administration.

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Even this year's deficit is more than the deficits while bush was in office... which the dems railed against.

But since the obama deficits are under a dem... there is no issue.

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