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Solar Boom Driving First Global Panel Shortage Since 2006

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Solar Boom Driving First Global Panel Shortage Since 2006
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-18/solar-boom-driving-first-global-panel-shortage-since-2006.html



The future of energy is a renewable one, with solar leading the way. I have been saying it here for a long time now.

I am not in the climate-change camp, either (pro oil & gas); however, in the face of ever-expensive and depleting oil and gas reserves, getting energy directly from the sun is a win for everyone. It reduces CO2 emissions for those in the climate-change camp, and it helps wean the world away from chasing after finite oil and gas reserves that cause resource wars and global ecological damage.

I picked up on the web today that by 2040, 40% of the world's electricity may come from solar generation. It gets cheaper by the year, and we may already be past "Solar Crossover," where electricity from solar generation becomes cheaper than electricity generated by fossil fuels. If we have not gotten there yet, that day is coming soon.

I have a small ScottTrade account where I dabble in day-trading in energy stocks. I am mostly in oil and gas, but bought my first solar stock in July, and I am determined to buy shares of two or three other solar companies soon. It's the way forward......

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I am going to an energy show on Saturday to explore a small system for a cabin. This is bad news. I was hoping prices have significantly dropped, but if demand is red hot and supply is short.......prices will stay firm.

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2seaoat wrote:I am going to an energy show on Saturday to explore a small system for a cabin.  This is bad news.   I was hoping prices have significantly dropped, but if demand is red hot and supply is short.......prices will stay firm.

Watch the video, Seaoat. It is very interesting. Remember when computer systems were real expensive in the late 80s and early 90s, and then by the mid-90s, prices fell by 75%? The same thing is going to happen in the solar market. By 2020, solar systems will be able to compete without subsidies, according to the person interviewed.

Don't give up hope in finding a solar system for your cabin. Please share with us what you find out, as I am very curious.

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I am thinking about getting a new bobcat trailer and building a tiny house on the trailer. In my current condition, this is only a dream, but if the tumor mass gets smaller after the emoblization, and I get some energy this fall, and I can get some help from my son in law and son......well I am looking to spend about two months at a campground in Marco Island in January and February. I am working on getting my shots in Tampa and making sure the insurance will pay, but I would like the tiny house to be completely self sufficient. I have my waste and water tanks picked out, and I have framed for thirty years, but at my current physical state....this is mostly dream. This energy fair has vendors from all over and they have installers who will design your system.

boards of FL

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I found this company recently and may get a quote from them in the near future as I've been interested in having some solar panels installed on the roof.

http://compasssolar.com/


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boards of FL wrote:I found this company recently and may get a quote from them in the near future as I've been interested in having some solar panels installed on the roof.  

http://compasssolar.com/

Keep us posted.....I'm interested. I have reduced my power bill......reduced by a little over $100 a month with energy features.

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Joanimaroni wrote:
boards of FL wrote:I found this company recently and may get a quote from them in the near future as I've been interested in having some solar panels installed on the roof.  

http://compasssolar.com/

Keep us posted.....I'm interested.  I have reduced my power bill......reduced by  a little over $100 a month with energy features.


It will be several months before I contact them as I'm waiting for the wife to finish nursing school before taking on anything like this.


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I'm building a little house on a 24' pontoon boat. I bought the boat and trailer but haven't started yet. Hopefully I can start on it after the dr releases me next week. I'm going to use aluminum covered foam boards... that's the lightest setup.

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Are you going to steel frame it or use traditional dimensional lumber?

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My first idea was to use 24 gauge metal framing... but the aluminum boards are lighter... and easier. I'll find the link for you.

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http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/03/spray-painted-solar-cells/

Spray-painted solar cells promise cheap power on seemingly any surface

Scientists have dreamed of painting solar cells to generate energy on just about any surface, but efficiency has been a problem; researchers were happy to get one percent just a couple of years ago. At last, though, it looks like viable paint-on power is close at hand. A team at the University of Sheffield has developed spray-on cells that should be both cheap and capable. The trick is to coat an object in perovskite, a calcium titanium oxide mineral -- it's inexpensive like organic solar cells, but absorbs light nearly as well as silicon.

In the lab, the technology isn't quite ready for prime time. A spray-based cell gets about 11 percent efficiency versus 19 percent at perovskite's ideal performance. However, it's still early days. Scientists believe that their approach could scale up to the same manufacturing techniques used for spray painting vehicles. If that happens, it's conceivable that your future car (and virtually any other device) could harvest the sun's rays without the steep costs and awkward product designs that are frequently involved when you use old-fashioned solar panels.

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The aluminum foam panels are easy to find... even lowes can order them. But I just found this which is a cast metal foam... incredible strength to weight ratio. I'm looking at solar panels for the roof too... that's how I went on this tangent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aluminium_foam_sandwich

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Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/03/spray-painted-solar-cells/

Spray-painted solar cells promise cheap power on seemingly any surface

Scientists have dreamed of painting solar cells to generate energy on just about any surface, but efficiency has been a problem; researchers were happy to get one percent just a couple of years ago. At last, though, it looks like viable paint-on power is close at hand. A team at the University of Sheffield has developed spray-on cells that should be both cheap and capable. The trick is to coat an object in perovskite, a calcium titanium oxide mineral -- it's inexpensive like organic solar cells, but absorbs light nearly as well as silicon.

In the lab, the technology isn't quite ready for prime time. A spray-based cell gets about 11 percent efficiency versus 19 percent at perovskite's ideal performance. However, it's still early days. Scientists believe that their approach could scale up to the same manufacturing techniques used for spray painting vehicles. If that happens, it's conceivable that your future car (and virtually any other device) could harvest the sun's rays without the steep costs and awkward product designs that are frequently involved when you use old-fashioned solar panels.

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You are talking about spray-on solar, a technology developed by New Energy Technologies (NENE). My first solar stock--I bought 50 shares NENE on July 24th. Their coating can be used to make ordinary windows into solar collectors that supposedly even collect electrons from light radiating from streetlights at night.

As for Boards, look into Dow PowerHouse solar shingles.

http://www.dowpowerhouse.com/

I don't think anyone in Pensacola has a PowerHouse roof yet. They have been on the market since October of 2011.

I find it interesting, just by seeing who has commented on this thread, that interest in solar goes across ideological barriers. Why can't we be smart like this all the time? We are way past Solyndra, which was really just an ideological talking point.

The keys to future prosperity will include reducing everyone's energy footprint through efficiency, and finding ways to use less coal and petroleum overall as time marches forward.

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othershoe1030

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In a few months I'll have to decide what kind of insulation to put in my little shotgun house in New Orleans. The area didn't flood but there is so much humidity that we found mold on sheetrock when we tore it all out.

I'm looking at that foam that sprays in between the studs but I'm not sure. Is there anything else I should consider?

I haven't gotten to the solar panel idea yet, still working on siding and wiring. Solar panels will be great but at the moment I'm dealing with more essential elements.

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I think the spray foam is the best. Not only a good barrier for temp... but for water too. It also strengthens the structure.

It is more expensive... but worth it imo.

othershoe1030

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PkrBum wrote:I think the spray foam is the best. Not only a good barrier for temp... but for water too. It also strengthens the structure.

It is more expensive... but worth it imo.

Thanks. It is also not prone to growing mold. I haven't gotten a quote yet so don't know what I'm in for along those lines. Not looking forward to it.

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