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Federal court rules on Florida's purge of voter lists

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othershoe1030

othershoe1030

TUE APR 01, 2014 AT 02:09 PM PDT
Federal court rules 2012 Florida voter purge out of bounds
byMeteor BladesFollow
 
In a 2-1 ruling Tuesday, the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals made official what people have been saying for nearly two years: Florida's 11th hour voter purge in 2012 violated the National Voter Registration Act. As Josh Israel reports:
To prevent major changes to the voting lists that could disenfranchise citizens by accidentally removing them close to Election Day, Congress included a provision in the 1993 National Voter Registration Act to prevent any purges during that time. The law, commonly know as the “Motor Voter Act” for its provisions allowing people to register to vote when they get their driver’s license, spelled out:
A State shall complete, not later than 90 days prior to the date of a primary or general election for Federal office, any program the purpose of which is to systematically remove the names of ineligible voters from the official lists of eligible voters.
The point being that people actually eligible to vote might be mistakenly (or intentionally) removed from the rolls closer than 90 days to an election and not have enough time to straighten out the situation.  
Please read below the fold for more on this story.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/01/1288951/-Federal-court-rules-2012-Florida-voter-purge-out-of-bounds?detail=email

2seaoat



A common sense solution to stop anti democratic denial of voter's rights. Who would even think this kind of third world corruption would be discussed in the United States. Barbaric.

knothead

knothead

Sad but typical of red state politics . . . .

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

No doubt Herr Markle and Karma will accuse the court of being communist and pro-democrat. Since cutting off your competition from being able to vote is a desired goal for a non-democracy run by the whacko far, furry right.

Maybe Markle or Karma can tell us how making it difficult or impossible for some categories to vote is really being Pro-American.

Can't wait for their demented POV!

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

othershoe1030 wrote:TUE APR 01, 2014 AT 02:09 PM PDT
Federal court rules 2012 Florida voter purge out of bounds
byMeteor BladesFollow
 
In a 2-1 ruling Tuesday, the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals made official what people have been saying for nearly two years: Florida's 11th hour voter purge in 2012 violated the National Voter Registration Act. As Josh Israel reports:
To prevent major changes to the voting lists that could disenfranchise citizens by accidentally removing them close to Election Day, Congress included a provision in the 1993 National Voter Registration Act to prevent any purges during that time. The law, commonly know as the “Motor Voter Act” for its provisions allowing people to register to vote when they get their driver’s license, spelled out:
A State shall complete, not later than 90 days prior to the date of a primary or general election for Federal office, any program the purpose of which is to systematically remove the names of ineligible voters from the official lists of eligible voters.
The point being that people actually eligible to vote might be mistakenly (or intentionally) removed from the rolls closer than 90 days to an election and not have enough time to straighten out the situation.  
Please read below the fold for more on this story.


Great post!!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/01/1288951/-Federal-court-rules-2012-Florida-voter-purge-out-of-bounds?detail=email

Wordslinger

Wordslinger

What's becoming perfectly clear, is that today's republicans want us to go back in time to the America created by our "founding" fathers -- a democracy for which only white males who own property are allowed to vote.

Reality.

Guest


Guest

Might help if we went back to property as an entry to the voting booth as the folks with
Their hand out and no stake in the prosperity of the country are voting themselves the keys to a treasury full of funny money.

2seaoat



Yep, nothing worse than having property vote.

Guest


Guest

Its a great day. Mickey and Minnie mouse won the right to vote LOL

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

PACEDOG#1 wrote:Might help if we went back to property as an entry to the voting booth as the folks with
Their hand out and no stake in the prosperity of the country are voting themselves the keys to a treasury full of funny money.

Unfortunately the people voting themselves the keys to the treasury are the corporations, agribusiness, big oil (why are we still subsidizing them?), influences from the financial sector, etc. The poor working Joe and Jane who do shift work at perhaps two or more jobs don't have the time to take off work to go and vote and now the solution is to reduce the days and hours the polls are open?

knothead

knothead

othershoe1030 wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Might help if we went back to property as an entry to the voting booth as the folks with
Their hand out and no stake in the prosperity of the country are voting themselves the keys to a treasury full of funny money.

Unfortunately the people voting themselves the keys to the treasury are the corporations, agribusiness, big oil (why are we still subsidizing them?), influences from the financial sector, etc. The poor working Joe and Jane who do shift work at perhaps two or more jobs don't have the time to take off work to go and vote and now the solution is to reduce the days and hours the polls are open?

Crickets . . . . .

Guest


Guest

othershoe1030 wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Might help if we went back to property as an entry to the voting booth as the folks with
Their hand out and no stake in the prosperity of the country are voting themselves the keys to a treasury full of funny money.

[color=#0033cc]Unfortunately the people voting themselves the keys to the treasury are the corporations, agribusiness, big oil (why are we still subsidizing them?), influences from the financial sector, etc. The poor working Joe and Jane who do shift work at perhaps two or more jobs don't have the time to take off work to go and vote and now the solution is to reduce the days and hours the polls are open?[/color]

where are they doing that? I haven't seen that so please share I am against that.

As far as time allotted to vote, they need to not make the damn ballot so long. I swear to god last election it was a book.

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

crow wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Might help if we went back to property as an entry to the voting booth as the folks with
Their hand out and no stake in the prosperity of the country are voting themselves the keys to a treasury full of funny money.

Unfortunately the people voting themselves the keys to the treasury are the corporations, agribusiness, big oil (why are we still subsidizing them?), influences from the financial sector, etc. The poor working Joe and Jane who do shift work at perhaps two or more jobs don't have the time to take off work to go and vote and now the solution is to reduce the days and hours the polls are open?[/color]


where are they doing that? I haven't seen that so please share I am against that.

As far as time allotted to vote, they need to not make the damn ballot so long. I swear to god last election it was a book.


This has been an ongoing and very focused campaign by the Republicans in many states not just the ones listed in this article. First they hit the voter lists like the Florida purge then as this article states they start reducing the number of days of early voting. They are making it harder and harder for people to vote because the more voters turn out the better it usually is for the Democrats.

Of course they could change some of their policies so they would appeal to more voters but they don't want to do that.

CINCINNATI — Pivotal swing states under Republican control are embracing significant new electoral restrictions on registering and voting that go beyond the voter identification requirements that have caused fierce partisan brawls.

The bills, laws and administrative rules — some of them tried before — shake up fundamental components of state election systems, including the days and times polls are open and the locations where people vote.

Republicans in Ohio and Wisconsin this winter pushed through measures limiting the time polls are open, in particular cutting into weekend voting favored by low-income voters and blacks, who sometimes caravan from churches to polls on the Sunday before election.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/us/new-gop-bid-to-limit-voting-in-swing-states.html?_r=0

Guest


Guest

othershoe1030 wrote:
crow wrote:
othershoe1030 wrote:
PACEDOG#1 wrote:Might help if we went back to property as an entry to the voting booth as the folks with
Their hand out and no stake in the prosperity of the country are voting themselves the keys to a treasury full of funny money.

Unfortunately the people voting themselves the keys to the treasury are the corporations, agribusiness, big oil (why are we still subsidizing them?), influences from the financial sector, etc. The poor working Joe and Jane who do shift work at perhaps two or more jobs don't have the time to take off work to go and vote and now the solution is to reduce the days and hours the polls are open?[/color]


where are they doing that? I haven't seen that so please share I am against that.

As far as time allotted to vote, they need to not make the damn ballot so long. I swear to god last election it was a book.


This has been an ongoing and very focused campaign by the Republicans in many states not just the ones listed in this article. First they hit the voter lists like the Florida purge then as this article states they start reducing the number of days of early voting. They are making it harder and harder for people to vote because the more voters turn out the better it usually is for the Democrats.

Of course they could change some of their policies so they would appeal to more voters but they don't want to do that.

CINCINNATI — Pivotal swing states under Republican control are embracing significant new electoral restrictions on registering and voting that go beyond the voter identification requirements that have caused fierce partisan brawls.

The bills, laws and administrative rules — some of them tried before — shake up fundamental components of state election systems, including the days and times polls are open and the locations where people vote.

Republicans in Ohio and Wisconsin this winter pushed through measures limiting the time polls are open, in particular cutting into weekend voting favored by low-income voters and blacks, who sometimes caravan from churches to polls on the Sunday before election.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/us/new-gop-bid-to-limit-voting-in-swing-states.html?_r=0

That's a hit piece article.


Reuters) - Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker on Thursday signed a measure into law that eliminates absentee voting on weekends ahead of elections but vetoed a provision that restricted weekday voting hours across the state.

Wisconsin law allows voters to cast absentee ballots by mail or hand them in to their polling places before election day. Supporters have said the new law creates uniform and fair rules, while critics have said it disenfranchises voters.

Walker, a Republican who is seeking re-election, vetoed a part of the bill the majority Republican legislature approved that capped voting at 45 hours per week. Voting will be allowed only on weekdays from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. at clerks' offices.

Voter rights have become a political and racial flashpoint across the United States. Democrats generally oppose measures that restrict voting, saying they disenfranchise minorities and young people such as college students. Many Republicans back them, saying they are needed to combat voter fraud.

Supporters of the Wisconsin measure said it eliminated an unfair advantage for larger municipalities such as Milwaukee which have the money to keep polls open longer, <<< what about this?


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/27/us-usa-wisconsin-voting-idUSBREA2Q25I20140327

I am in favor of people having ID to vote. The majority of the country is btw

I don't think this man is trying to limit poor people from voting. But its great spin to try make someone out to be evil. I do believe he is trying to create a level playing field. Consistency

othershoe1030

othershoe1030

Here are a few more reports.  Ohio

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ohio-gop-looks-turn-clock-back-voting

Wisconsin:

http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/on-politics/senate-passes-bill-banning-weekend-voting-before-statewide-elections/article_96b056f8-1249-5eb2-ae1a-1d41767ee48b.html

North Carolina
http://www.thenation.com/blog/175722/north-carolinas-sweeping-voter-suppression-law-challenged-court

Georgia does well, defeats efforts to reduce voting days

Move To Cut Early Voting Defeated In Georgia
03/24/2014

Facing South:  “It's been a major conflict in the voting wars: Across the South and country, Republican-led states have moved to shrink the early voting period before Election Day. But this week, voting rights advocates scored a key victory in a state where the GOP enjoys a strong majority.  On Thursday, March 20, the Georgia House declined to pass HB 891, a measure that would have allowed more than 500 cities and towns to reduce early voting from three weeks to one week. The bill applied only to municipal elections, but it was considered an important test of support for efforts to reduce early voting in state and county contests in the future.  But after passing the state Senate by a 36-16 margin, HB 891 died in the House as the General Assembly closed its 2014 session, ensuring that Georgia won't see any restrictions to early voting until the issue is taken up again in 2015.  Leaders at the League of Women Voters in Georgia and other groups that fought the bill chalk up the victory to a mix of savvy advocacy in the General Assembly and a wide mobilization of support from civil rights, faith and other coalition allies.”



http://www.southernstudies.org/2014/03/move-to-slash-early-voting-defeated-in-georgia.html

knothead

knothead

othershoe1030 wrote:Here are a few more reports.  Ohio

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ohio-gop-looks-turn-clock-back-voting

Wisconsin:

http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/on-politics/senate-passes-bill-banning-weekend-voting-before-statewide-elections/article_96b056f8-1249-5eb2-ae1a-1d41767ee48b.html

North Carolina
http://www.thenation.com/blog/175722/north-carolinas-sweeping-voter-suppression-law-challenged-court

Georgia does well, defeats efforts to reduce voting days

Move To Cut Early Voting Defeated In Georgia
03/24/2014

Facing South:  “It's been a major conflict in the voting wars: Across the South and country, Republican-led states have moved to shrink the early voting period before Election Day. But this week, voting rights advocates scored a key victory in a state where the GOP enjoys a strong majority.  On Thursday, March 20, the Georgia House declined to pass HB 891, a measure that would have allowed more than 500 cities and towns to reduce early voting from three weeks to one week. The bill applied only to municipal elections, but it was considered an important test of support for efforts to reduce early voting in state and county contests in the future.  But after passing the state Senate by a 36-16 margin, HB 891 died in the House as the General Assembly closed its 2014 session, ensuring that Georgia won't see any restrictions to early voting until the issue is taken up again in 2015.  Leaders at the League of Women Voters in Georgia and other groups that fought the bill chalk up the victory to a mix of savvy advocacy in the General Assembly and a wide mobilization of support from civil rights, faith and other coalition allies.”



http://www.southernstudies.org/2014/03/move-to-slash-early-voting-defeated-in-georgia.html


This clearly and undeniably illustrates the GOP propensity to undermine others right to vote; it is clear that there is a pattern throughout the so-called red states and that pattern is to move decisively to restrict these rights and anyone who is supporting this also supports those restrictions.

Guest


Guest

othershoe1030 wrote:Here are a few more reports.  Ohio

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ohio-gop-looks-turn-clock-back-voting

Wisconsin:

http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/on-politics/senate-passes-bill-banning-weekend-voting-before-statewide-elections/article_96b056f8-1249-5eb2-ae1a-1d41767ee48b.html

North Carolina
http://www.thenation.com/blog/175722/north-carolinas-sweeping-voter-suppression-law-challenged-court

Georgia does well, defeats efforts to reduce voting days

Move To Cut Early Voting Defeated In Georgia
03/24/2014

Facing South:  “It's been a major conflict in the voting wars: Across the South and country, Republican-led states have moved to shrink the early voting period before Election Day. But this week, voting rights advocates scored a key victory in a state where the GOP enjoys a strong majority.  On Thursday, March 20, the Georgia House declined to pass HB 891, a measure that would have allowed more than 500 cities and towns to reduce early voting from three weeks to one week. The bill applied only to municipal elections, but it was considered an important test of support for efforts to reduce early voting in state and county contests in the future.  But after passing the state Senate by a 36-16 margin, HB 891 died in the House as the General Assembly closed its 2014 session, ensuring that Georgia won't see any restrictions to early voting until the issue is taken up again in 2015.  Leaders at the League of Women Voters in Georgia and other groups that fought the bill chalk up the victory to a mix of savvy advocacy in the General Assembly and a wide mobilization of support from civil rights, faith and other coalition allies.”



http://www.southernstudies.org/2014/03/move-to-slash-early-voting-defeated-in-georgia.html
http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20132014/144731.pdf
The Georgia is little different. I think that's just for local elections.

anyway, it seems what they want is to limit absentee ballots and I cant say I blame them. As a proponent of ID to vote, it only makes sense.

I also don't think having voting hours during the work days is disenfranchising the poor. Majority of poor are not working, or working much hence why they are poor.

I think there should be consistent voting laws throughout the nation. And I think all these community organizers going door to door, walking the streets getting the homeless etc to sign up on these absentee ballots should be illegal. Because some of these people doing this are breaking the law. contrary to what the left believes there are massive voter fraud, and most of it comes from absentee ballots.

But I digress, any type of trying to make the voting system more open, honest, fair and transparent would be called suppression by the left. because what you all want is for anyone to just walk up, vote without ID and that's it. Even in arab and 3rd world nations they don't have that kind of leniency.

and let me remind you, the left doesn't go near as far out of their way to protect those who are serving their country over seas, therefore disenfranchising them.

is it perfect? no, should we work towards a consistent, fair and transparent voting system? Yes.

I don't want anyone to not be able to vote, but I do not want to have a system that allows fraud.

oh and btw, the voting rolls have to be purged every now and then, people die and also cheaters sign up by absentee ballots dead people,fictitious names and illegals. They need to be removed.

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