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2seaoat wrote:Yet 20k people die each year because of impaired drivers and we cannot put ignition interlocks in all new cars?  We have created a police state and have the technology to reduce impaired driving deaths by 95%.  The alcohol lobby wins again.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs/autosblogpost.aspx?post=675cdf0b-b317-4785-afdd-60222faf259a&icid=autos_5476

2seaoat wrote:Yet 20k people die each year because of impaired drivers and we cannot put ignition interlocks in all new cars?  We have created a police state and have the technology to reduce impaired driving deaths by 95%.  The alcohol lobby wins again.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs/autosblogpost.aspx?post=675cdf0b-b317-4785-afdd-60222faf259a&icid=autos_5476

Karma wrote:oh no, say it aint so. seaoat complaining about nanny state lol

the gov's gotta make some tax money off something seaoat to pay for all the give aways.

othershoe1030 wrote:

Karma wrote:oh no, say it aint so. seaoat complaining about nanny state lol

the gov's gotta make some tax money off something seaoat to pay for all the give aways.

This makes no sense LOL. How exactly is the government generating revenue from, well, from what?

PACEDOG#1 wrote:by othershoe1030 Yesterday at 9:29 pm
2seaoat wrote:
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Yet 20k people die each year because of impaired drivers and we cannot put ignition interlocks in all new cars?  We have created a police state and have the technology to reduce impaired driving deaths by 95%.  The alcohol lobby wins again.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs/autosblogpost.aspx?post=675cdf0b-b317-4785-afdd-60222faf259a&icid=autos_5476
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What's the problem with ignition interlocks? Someone afraid they will loose their FREEDOM? Oh, it's the spirits group, drink responsibly!
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No nanny state thank you

Karma wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Karma wrote:oh no, say it aint so. seaoat complaining about nanny state lol

the gov's gotta make some tax money off something seaoat to pay for all the give aways.

This makes no sense LOL. How exactly is the government generating revenue from, well, from what?

really?

The Industry’s Role

The U.S. beverage alcohol industry is a major contributor to the economy, responsible for over $400 billion in total U.S. economic activity in 2010, generating nearly $90 billion in wages and over 3.9 million jobs for U.S. workers.

In 2010, distilled spirits accounted for over $120 billion in total economic activity, or 30% of total economic activity from all beverage alcohol.

Contributing to State Treasuries

The beverage alcohol industry contributed over $21 billion directly to state and local revenues during 2010. Of that amount, distilled spirits accounted for over $8.8 billion or 41% of this direct revenue.

In 2010, beverage alcohol's total contribution to state and local revenues was over $41 billion. Of that amount, $20.1 billion came from indirect revenues such as corporate, personal income, property and other taxes generated by the beverage alcohol industry.

Total revenues from distilled spirits (direct and indirect) were $15.5 billion in 2010, or 37% of total beverage alcohol revenue.

A Heavy Tax Burden

Distilled spirits are one of the highest taxed consumer products in the United States.

Standardizing for alcohol content, the distilled spirits federal excise tax burden (per proof gallon) is more than double that of beer and almost triple that of wine. The federal excise tax burden per proof gallon for distilled spirits is $13.50. In comparison, the tax burden per proof gallon for beer and wine is $6.18 and $4.86, respectively.

Federal, state and local taxes accounted for $7.83, or 54%, of the average $14.42 price for a typical 750ml bottle of 80 proof distilled spirits in the United States in 2012.

http://www.discus.org/economics/

Karma wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Karma wrote:oh no, say it aint so. seaoat complaining about nanny state lol

the gov's gotta make some tax money off something seaoat to pay for all the give aways.

This makes no sense LOL. How exactly is the government generating revenue from, well, from what?

really?

The Industry’s Role

The U.S. beverage alcohol industry is a major contributor to the economy, responsible for over $400 billion in total U.S. economic activity in 2010, generating nearly $90 billion in wages and over 3.9 million jobs for U.S. workers.

In 2010, distilled spirits accounted for over $120 billion in total economic activity, or 30% of total economic activity from all beverage alcohol.

Contributing to State Treasuries

The beverage alcohol industry contributed over $21 billion directly to state and local revenues during 2010. Of that amount, distilled spirits accounted for over $8.8 billion or 41% of this direct revenue.

In 2010, beverage alcohol's total contribution to state and local revenues was over $41 billion. Of that amount, $20.1 billion came from indirect revenues such as corporate, personal income, property and other taxes generated by the beverage alcohol industry.

Total revenues from distilled spirits (direct and indirect) were $15.5 billion in 2010, or 37% of total beverage alcohol revenue.

A Heavy Tax Burden

Distilled spirits are one of the highest taxed consumer products in the United States.

Standardizing for alcohol content, the distilled spirits federal excise tax burden (per proof gallon) is more than double that of beer and almost triple that of wine. The federal excise tax burden per proof gallon for distilled spirits is $13.50. In comparison, the tax burden per proof gallon for beer and wine is $6.18 and $4.86, respectively.

Federal, state and local taxes accounted for $7.83, or 54%, of the average $14.42 price for a typical 750ml bottle of 80 proof distilled spirits in the United States in 2012.

http://www.discus.org/economics/

othershoe1030 wrote:

Karma wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Karma wrote:oh no, say it aint so. seaoat complaining about nanny state lol

the gov's gotta make some tax money off something seaoat to pay for all the give aways.

This makes no sense LOL. How exactly is the government generating revenue from, well, from what?

really?

The Industry’s Role

The U.S. beverage alcohol industry is a major contributor to the economy, responsible for over $400 billion in total U.S. economic activity in 2010, generating nearly $90 billion in wages and over 3.9 million jobs for U.S. workers.

In 2010, distilled spirits accounted for over $120 billion in total economic activity, or 30% of total economic activity from all beverage alcohol.

Contributing to State Treasuries

The beverage alcohol industry contributed over $21 billion directly to state and local revenues during 2010. Of that amount, distilled spirits accounted for over $8.8 billion or 41% of this direct revenue.

In 2010, beverage alcohol's total contribution to state and local revenues was over $41 billion. Of that amount, $20.1 billion came from indirect revenues such as corporate, personal income, property and other taxes generated by the beverage alcohol industry.

Total revenues from distilled spirits (direct and indirect) were $15.5 billion in 2010, or 37% of total beverage alcohol revenue.

A Heavy Tax Burden

Distilled spirits are one of the highest taxed consumer products in the United States.

Standardizing for alcohol content, the distilled spirits federal excise tax burden (per proof gallon) is more than double that of beer and almost triple that of wine. The federal excise tax burden per proof gallon for distilled spirits is $13.50. In comparison, the tax burden per proof gallon for beer and wine is $6.18 and $4.86, respectively.

Federal, state and local taxes accounted for $7.83, or 54%, of the average $14.42 price for a typical 750ml bottle of 80 proof distilled spirits in the United States in 2012.

http://www.discus.org/economics/

????

People would still drink.

Revenue from liquor sales would still flow into the treasury but people would just have to hire a cab (more jobs for sober cabbies) or get an unimpaired friend to take them home should they over indulge.

Joanimaroni wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Karma wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

Karma wrote:oh no, say it aint so. seaoat complaining about nanny state lol

the gov's gotta make some tax money off something seaoat to pay for all the give aways.

This makes no sense LOL. How exactly is the government generating revenue from, well, from what?

really?

The Industry’s Role

The U.S. beverage alcohol industry is a major contributor to the economy, responsible for over $400 billion in total U.S. economic activity in 2010, generating nearly $90 billion in wages and over 3.9 million jobs for U.S. workers.

In 2010, distilled spirits accounted for over $120 billion in total economic activity, or 30% of total economic activity from all beverage alcohol.

Contributing to State Treasuries

The beverage alcohol industry contributed over $21 billion directly to state and local revenues during 2010. Of that amount, distilled spirits accounted for over $8.8 billion or 41% of this direct revenue.

In 2010, beverage alcohol's total contribution to state and local revenues was over $41 billion. Of that amount, $20.1 billion came from indirect revenues such as corporate, personal income, property and other taxes generated by the beverage alcohol industry.

Total revenues from distilled spirits (direct and indirect) were $15.5 billion in 2010, or 37% of total beverage alcohol revenue.

A Heavy Tax Burden

Distilled spirits are one of the highest taxed consumer products in the United States.

Standardizing for alcohol content, the distilled spirits federal excise tax burden (per proof gallon) is more than double that of beer and almost triple that of wine. The federal excise tax burden per proof gallon for distilled spirits is $13.50. In comparison, the tax burden per proof gallon for beer and wine is $6.18 and $4.86, respectively.

Federal, state and local taxes accounted for $7.83, or 54%, of the average $14.42 price for a typical 750ml bottle of 80 proof distilled spirits in the United States in 2012.

http://www.discus.org/economics/

????

People would still drink.

Revenue from liquor sales would still flow into the treasury but people would just have to hire a cab (more jobs for sober cabbies) or get an unimpaired friend to take them home should they over indulge.

You asked how is the government generating revenue from, well,  from what.....and Karma gave you an answer.

2seaoat wrote:Yet 20k people die each year because of impaired drivers and we cannot put ignition interlocks in all new cars?  We have created a police state and have the technology to reduce impaired driving deaths by 95%.  The alcohol lobby wins again.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs/autosblogpost.aspx?post=675cdf0b-b317-4785-afdd-60222faf259a&icid=autos_5476

Markle wrote:

2seaoat wrote:Yet 20k people die each year because of impaired drivers and we cannot put ignition interlocks in all new cars?  We have created a police state and have the technology to reduce impaired driving deaths by 95%.  The alcohol lobby wins again.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs/autosblogpost.aspx?post=675cdf0b-b317-4785-afdd-60222faf259a&icid=autos_5476

Not surprised that you would support unreasonable additional restrictions on 95% of drivers because of the 5% who are the problem.  Just like ObamaCare.

What technology will stop drivers from using their cell phones, texting, eating and driving stoned on marijuana?

The back up cam is another expense, another electronic which will malfunction and for a miniscule number of lives.

othershoe1030 wrote:
People would still drink.

Revenue from liquor sales would still flow into the treasury but people would just have to hire a cab (more jobs for sober cabbies) or get an unimpaired friend to take them home should they over indulge.

2seaoat wrote:What technology will stop drivers from using their cell phones, texting, eating and driving stoned on marijuana?


More easy answers.  We have the ability to block cell phone use while a vehicle is being operated.  The same applies to texting.  Turn the car of phones work.  Technology cannot help with eating.  They currently have testing modules they are working on showing impairment in the moment by measuring thc levels, and not historic useage.  The modules will simply need software updates.  The fact that your freedom not to wear a seatbelt or a motorcycle helmet becomes my responsibility with higher insurance rates and higher taxes because of your freedom.  I have the freedom to demand those costs be borne by the person who took the risk, and LEO can help protect the public from those selfish costs for your perceived freedom to pass your costs to others.