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Lie by Lie: A Timeline of How We Got Into Iraq

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/12/leadup-iraq-war-timeline

Lie by Lie: A Timeline of How We Got Into Iraq
Mushroom clouds, duct tape, Judy Miller, Curveball. Recalling how Americans were sold a bogus case for invasion.



AT A CONGRESSIONAL hearing examining the march to war in Iraq, Republican congressman Walter Jones posed "a very simple question" about the administration's manipulation of intelligence: "How could the professionals see what was happening and nobody speak out?"

Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell's former chief of staff, responded with an equally simple answer: "The vice president."

But the blame for Iraq does not end with Cheney, Bush, or Rumsfeld. Nor is it limited to the intelligence operatives who sat silent as the administration cherry-picked its case for war, or with those, like Colin Powell or Hans Blix, who, in the name of loyalty or statesmanship, did not give full throat to their misgivings. It is also shared by far too many in the Fourth Estate, most notably the New York Times' Judith Miller. But let us not forget that it lies, inescapably, with we the American people, who, in our fear and rage over the catastrophic events of September 11, 2001, allowed ourselves to be suckered into the most audacious bait and switch of all time.

The first drafts of history are, by their nature, fragmentary. They arrive tragically late, and too often out of order. Back in 2006, we attempted to strip the history of the runup to the war to its bones, to reconstruct a skeleton that we thought might be key in resolving the open questions of the Bush era. As we prepare to leave Iraq, we present that timeline to you again. MotherJones.com offers a greatly expanded (if now technologically outdated) version of this timeline, one that is completely sourced to primary documents and initial news accounts. It was our hope to make this second draft of history as definitive as possible. So that we won't be fooled again.—THE EDITORS

(timeline follows...much too long to post here, but everyone should read it...)

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A trip through nostalgia-land. Oh, how I don't miss those days.

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"The vice president."

Many are not going to weep when his transplanted ticker stops beating.....  Twisted Evil

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Blah blah blah

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Psalms 109:8

Applies to Obama.

Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:"The vice president."

Many are not going to weep when his transplanted ticker stops beating.....  Twisted Evil

Proudly states ZVUGKTUBM. As if we needed more confirmation that Progressives lack character.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:"The vice president."

Many are not going to weep when his transplanted ticker stops beating.....  Twisted Evil

Proudly states ZVUGKTUBM.  As if we needed more confirmation that Progressives lack character.

I don't respect politicians who lack character, and he was one of them. What was Cheney doing while you were serving in Vietnam, Markle?

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Chickenhawks who never served and help start new wars are low in character.

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Markle

Markle

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:"The vice president."

Many are not going to weep when his transplanted ticker stops beating.....  Twisted Evil

Proudly states ZVUGKTUBM.  As if we needed more confirmation that Progressives lack character.

I don't respect politicians who lack character, and he was one of them. What was Cheney doing while you were serving in Vietnam, Markle?

Chickenhawks who never served and help start new wars are low in character.

In what branch of the Military did President Barack Hussein Obama serve?

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:"The vice president."

Many are not going to weep when his transplanted ticker stops beating.....  Twisted Evil

Proudly states ZVUGKTUBM.  As if we needed more confirmation that Progressives lack character.

I don't respect politicians who lack character, and he was one of them. What was Cheney doing while you were serving in Vietnam, Markle?

Chickenhawks who never served and help start new wars are low in character.

In what branch of the Military did President Barack Hussein Obama serve?

Completely irrelevant. Care to comment on the subject?

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ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:"The vice president."

Many are not going to weep when his transplanted ticker stops beating.....  Twisted Evil

Proudly states ZVUGKTUBM.  As if we needed more confirmation that Progressives lack character.

I don't respect politicians who lack character, and he was one of them. What was Cheney doing while you were serving in Vietnam, Markle?

Lie by Lie:  A Timeline of How We Got Into Iraq CheneyBillboard

Chickenhawks who never served and help start new wars are low in character.

Chickenhawks like KKKlinton could have preempted the actions of Bush had they answered the call of the first WTC bombing instead of putting cigars into the female parts of interns and getting a hummer in the Oval Office.

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Floridatexan wrote:
Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
Markle wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:"The vice president."

Many are not going to weep when his transplanted ticker stops beating.....  Twisted Evil

Proudly states ZVUGKTUBM.  As if we needed more confirmation that Progressives lack character.

I don't respect politicians who lack character, and he was one of them. What was Cheney doing while you were serving in Vietnam, Markle?

Chickenhawks who never served and help start new wars are low in character.

In what branch of the Military did President Barack Hussein Obama serve?

Completely irrelevant. Care to comment on the subject?

Funny....Hussein probably served as Mujahideen fighter in Astan against the Soviets...oh that's right he was on a FULBRIGHT schollie going to school on USA taxpayer money.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Lie by Lie:  A Timeline of How We Got Into Iraq Draft%2Bdodgers

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Floridatexan wrote:
Lie by Lie:  A Timeline of How We Got Into Iraq Draft%2Bdodgers

Bush did serve. I think strapping yourself to a jet and flying it is a lot more dangerous than anything you have done....even if he sucked at it.

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Officials with Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama’s campaign released Biden’s Selective Service records at the request of The Associated Press. Less detailed records were available from a National Archives facility in Philadelphia [emphasis added mine].

According to the documents, Biden, 65, received several deferments while he was an undergraduate at the University of Delaware and later as a law student at Syracuse University. A month after undergoing a physical exam in April 1968, Biden received a Selective Service classification of 1-Y, meaning he was available for service only in the event of national emergency.
http://www.911familiesforamerica.org/?p=1092

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President Barack Obama* — No military experience
Vice-President Joe Biden — Exempted from Vietnam draft
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — No military service
Secretary of Treasury Tim Geithner* — No military service.
Secretary of Defense Robert Gates – Air Force Officer
Attorney General Eric Holder* — No military experience
Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazaar — No military experience
Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack — No military experience
Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke* — No military experience
Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis — No military experience
Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius – No military experience
Secretary of Education Arne Duncan* — No military experience
Secretary of HUD Shaun Donovan* –No military experience
Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood –No military experience
Secretary of Energy Steven Chu — No military experience
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Gen. Eric Shinseki — Retired General
Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano — No military experience
Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel — No military experience
David Axelrod, chief adviser — No military experience
Robert Gibbs, press secretary — No military experience.

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Who did Jeb bush ever send to war?

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Clinton sought Fulbright's help to get the ROTC spot in the first place, and this got him a 1-D draft status, which was reserved for people who were slated for the Guard or Reserves. He still had this status in October of 1969, when Nixon announced that the October eligibles would fill the slots for October, November and December. IOW, if you weren't drafted in the October pool, you were safe for 1969. On December 1, Clinton learned he had the very high draft number of 311, freeing him from jeopardy in 1970. On December 2 he applied to Yale, abandoning the University where he would have served in the ROTC, and on December 3, he wrote to Colonel Holmes. Is this so terrible? Not in my estimation, but if Bush was in little jeopardy by being in the Air National Guard, he was in more jeopardy and served more than Clinton ever did, and it was the height of hypocisy, after two terms of Clinton, to try sink Bush's presidency on the bogus Air Guard issue. -- Cecropia 08:40, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Funny....Hussein probably served as Mujahideen fighter in Astan against the Soviets...oh that's right he was on a FULBRIGHT schollie going to school on USA taxpayer money.

PaceDog could take this fiction and write cheap novels with it.....

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Markle

Markle

"Dear Colonel Holmes,

I am sorry to be so long in writing. I know I promised to let you hear from me at least once a month, and from now on you will, but I have had to have some time to think about this first letter. Almost daily since my return to England I have thought about writing, about what I want to and ought to say. First, I want to thank you, not just for saving me from the draft, but for being so kind and decent to me last summer, when I was as low as I have ever been. One thing which made the bond we struck in good faith somewhat palatable to me was my high regard for you personally. In retrospect, it seems that the admiration might not have been mutual had you known a little more about me, about my political beliefs and activities. At least you might have thought me more fit for the draft than for ROTC. Let me try to explain.

As you know, I worked for two years in a very minor position on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I did it for the experience and the salary, but also for the opportunity, however small, of working every day against a war I opposed and despised with a depth of feeling I had reserved solely for racism in America before Vietnam. I did not take the matter lightly, but studied it carefully, and there was a time when not many people had more information about Vietnam at hand than I did. I have written and spoken and marched against the war. One of the national organizers of the Vietnam Moratorium is a close friend of mine. After I left Arkansas last summer, I went to Washington to work in the national headquarters of the Moratorium, then to England to organize the Americans here for demonstrations here October 15th and November 16th.

Interlocked with the war is the draft issue, which I did not begin to consider separately until early 1968. For a law seminar at Georgetown I wrote a paper on the legal arguments for and against allowing, within the Selective Service System, the classification of selective conscientious objection, for those opposed to participation in a particular war, not simply to, quote, participation in war in any form, end quote. From my work I came to believe that the draft system itself is illegitimate. No government really rooted in limited, parliamentary democracy should have the power to make its citizens fight and kill and die in a war they may oppose, a war which even possibly may be wrong, a war which, in any case, does not involve immediately the peace and freedom of the nation.

The draft was justified in World War II because the life of the people collectively was at stake. Individuals had to fight if the nation was to survive, for the lives of their countrymen and their way of life. Vietnam is no such case. Nor was Korea, an example where, in my opinion, certain military action was justified but the draft was not, for the reasons stated above.

Because of my opposition to the draft and the war, I am in great sympathy with those who are not willing to fight, kill, and maybe die for their country, that is, the particular policy of a particular government, right or wrong. Two of my friends at Oxford are conscientious objectors. I wrote a letter of recommendation for one of them to his Mississippi draft board, a letter which I am more proud of than anything else I wrote at Oxford last year. One of my roommates is a draft resister who is possibly under indictment and may never be able to go home again. He is one of the bravest, best men I know. His country needs men like him more than they know. That he is considered a criminal is an obscenity.

The decision not to be a resister and the related subsequent decisions were the most difficult of my life. I decided to accept the draft in spite of my beliefs for one reason: to maintain my political viability within the system. For years I have worked to prepare myself for a political life characterized by both practical political ability and concern for rapid social progress. It is a life I still feel compelled to try to lead. I do not think our system of government is by definition corrupt, however dangerous and inadequate it has been in recent years (the society may be corrupt, but that is not the same thing, and if that is true we are all finished anyway).

When the draft came, despite political convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war I had been fighting against, and that is why I contacted you. ROTC was the one way left in which I could possibly, but not positively, avoid both Vietnam and resistance. Going on with my education, even coming back to England, played no part in my decision to join ROTC. I am back here, and would have been at Arkansas Law School, because there is nothing else I can do. In fact, I would like to have been able to take a year out perhaps to teach in a small college or work on some community action project and in the process to decide whether to attend law school or graduate school and how to be putting what I have learned to use. But the particulars of my personal life are not nearly as important to me as the principles involved.

After I signed the ROTC letter of intent I began to wonder whether the compromise I had made with myself was not more objectionable than the draft would have been, because I had no interest in the ROTC program in itself and all I seemed to have done was to protect myself from physical harm. Also, I began to think I had deceived you, not by lies - there were none - but by failing to tell you all the things I'm writing now. I doubt that I had the mental coherence to articulate them then. At that time, after we had made our agreement and you had sent my 1 - D deferment to my draft board, the anguish and loss of self-regard and self-confidence really set in. I hardly slept for weeks and kept going by eating compulsively and reading until exhaustion brought sleep. Finally on September 12th, I stayed up all night writing a letter to the chairman of my draft board, saying basically what is in the preceding paragraph, thanking him for trying to help me in a case where he really couldn't, and stating that I couldn't do the ROTC after all and would he please draft me as soon as possible.

I never mailed the letter, but I did carry it on me every day until I got on the plane to return to England. I didn't mail the letter because I didn't see, in the end, how my going in the Army and maybe going to Vietnam would achieve anything except a feeling that I had punished myself and gotten what I deserved. So I came back to England to try to make something of this second year of my Rhodes scholarship.

And that is where I am now, writing to you because you have been good to me and have a right to know what I think and feel. I am writing too in the hope that my telling this one story will help you to understand more clearly how so many fine people have come to find themselves still loving their country but loathing the military, to which you and other good men have devoted years, lifetimes, of the best service you could give. To many of us, it is no longer clear what is service and what is disservice, or if it is clear, the conclusion is likely to be illegal. Forgive the length of this letter. There was much to say. There is still a lot to be said, but it can wait. Please say hello to Colonel Jones for me. Merry Christmas.

Sincerely,

Bill Clinton"

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


http://www.glcq.com/bush_at_arpc1.htm

DESERTER
THE STORY OF GEORGE W. BUSH AFTER HE QUIT THE TEXAS AIR NATIONAL GUARD

SUMMARY

An examination of the Bush military files within the context of US Statutory Law, Department of Defense regulations, and Air Force policies and procedures of that era lead to a single conclusion: George W. Bush was considered a deserter by the United States Air Force.


After Bush quit TXANG, he still had nine months of his six-year military commitment left to serve. As a result, Bush became a member of the Air Force Reserves and was transferred to the authority of the Air Reserve Personnel Center (ARPC) in Denver, Colorado. Because this was supposed to be a temporary assignment, ARPC had to review Bush’s records to determine where he should ultimately be assigned. That examination would have led to three conclusions: That Bush had “failed to satisfactorily participate” as defined by United States law and Air Force policy, that TXANG could not account for Bush’s actions for an entire year, and that Bush’s medical records were not up to date. Regardless of what actions ARPC contemplated when reviewing Bush’s records, all options required that Bush be certified as physically fit to serve, or as unfit to serve. ARPC thus had to order Bush to get a physical examination, for which Bush did not show up. ARPC then designated Bush as AWOL and a “non-locatee” (i.e. a deserter) who had failed to satisfactorily participate in TXANG, and certified him for immediate induction through his local draft board. Once the Houston draft board got wind of the situation, strings were pulled; and documents were generated which directly contradict Air Force policy, and which were inconsistent with the rest of the records released by the White House.

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"...Under Air Force policy in force at that time, the only way that someone in Bush’s position could be placed in an “Inactive Status” was if they were being “completely severed from military status.” And the only way that could happen is if someone had become permanently disabled, or deserted. Bush was not disabled.

Instead, consistent with contemporaneous laws, regulations, and procedures, ARPC had reviewed Bush’s records, and found that he had failed to “satisfactorily participate” as a member of TXANG. Bush was then ordered to active duty, for which he did not show up. ARPC then certified him for immediate induction as a “non-locatee” (e.g. a deserter) through the Selective Service System.

This is the only explanation that is consistent with Bush’s military records and Air Force policy of that era.

It is also clear that the Bush records were tampered with to hide this fact. Many documents were thrown out that should have been kept, and there is indisputable evidence that at least one key document has been altered.

The documentary evidence also strongly suggests that when news of Bush’s situation reached Texas, strings were pulled that resulted in Bush being “rehabilitated” in a manner completely inconsistent with Air Force policy.

The paper trail is incomplete, and in some cases ambiguous. But “clerical error” is not sufficient to explain the anomalies, because the level of “coincidence” required for a “clerical error” explanation is well beyond any rational possibility.

Because Bush’s records are incomplete, a full understanding of what Bush’s records represent, and how they must be interpreted, can only be achieved through an understanding of what each document means within its specific context..."

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(thoroughly researched)

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Floridatexan wrote:
http://www.glcq.com/bush_at_arpc1.htm

DESERTER
THE STORY OF GEORGE W. BUSH AFTER HE QUIT THE TEXAS AIR NATIONAL GUARD

SUMMARY

An examination of the Bush military files within the context of US Statutory Law, Department of Defense regulations, and Air Force policies and procedures of that era lead to a single conclusion:  George W. Bush was considered a deserter by the United States Air Force.


After Bush quit TXANG, he still had nine months of his six-year military commitment left to serve.   As a result, Bush became a member of the Air Force Reserves and was transferred to the authority of the Air Reserve Personnel Center (ARPC) in Denver, Colorado.   Because this was supposed to be a temporary assignment, ARPC had to review Bush’s records to determine where he should ultimately be assigned.  That examination would have led to three conclusions: That Bush had “failed to satisfactorily participate” as defined by United States law and Air Force policy, that TXANG could not account for Bush’s actions for an entire year, and that Bush’s medical records were not up to date.  Regardless of what actions ARPC contemplated when reviewing Bush’s records, all options required that Bush be certified as physically fit to serve, or as unfit to serve.   ARPC thus had to order Bush to get a physical examination, for which Bush did not show up.  ARPC then designated Bush as AWOL and a “non-locatee” (i.e. a deserter) who had failed to satisfactorily participate in TXANG, and certified him for immediate induction through his local draft board.  Once the Houston draft board got wind of the situation, strings were pulled; and documents were generated which directly contradict Air Force policy, and which were inconsistent with the rest of the records released by the White House.

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"...Under Air Force policy in force at that time, the only way that someone in Bush’s position could be placed in an “Inactive Status” was if they were being “completely severed from military status.”   And the only way that could happen is if someone had become permanently disabled, or deserted.  Bush was not disabled.

Instead, consistent with contemporaneous laws, regulations, and procedures, ARPC had reviewed Bush’s records, and found that he had failed to “satisfactorily participate” as a member of TXANG.  Bush was then ordered to active duty, for which he did not show up.  ARPC then certified him for immediate induction as a “non-locatee” (e.g. a deserter) through the Selective Service System.

This is the only explanation that is consistent with Bush’s military records and Air Force policy of that era.

It is also clear that the Bush records were tampered with to hide this fact.  Many documents were thrown out that should have been kept, and there is indisputable evidence that at least one key document has been altered.

The documentary evidence also strongly suggests that when news of Bush’s situation reached Texas, strings were pulled that resulted in Bush being “rehabilitated” in a manner completely inconsistent with Air Force policy.

The paper trail is incomplete, and in some cases ambiguous.  But “clerical error” is not sufficient to explain the anomalies, because the level of “coincidence” required for a “clerical error” explanation is well beyond any rational possibility.

Because Bush’s records are incomplete, a full understanding of what Bush’s records represent, and how they must be interpreted, can only be achieved through an understanding of what each document means within its specific context..."

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(thoroughly researched)


I have told this story many times. However, the wingnuts are okay with chickenhawks who either did not serve, or who failed to fulfill their service obligation, just so long as these folks remain ideologically pure.

George W. Bush would not have even made the "B" team in any squadron I served in. He would have been eaten alive.

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