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1Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Old Stinky ECUA property 1/11/2014, 8:53 pm

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Selling the property is the ECUA’s next challenge, and the development of that land is a lynchpin to opening up the western edge of downtown to even more growth. The property was appraised twice last spring, though Benson says those appraisals have not been publicly revealed.

Benson says some of the pilings of the old plant were left in place in the hopes they might be able to be used as a foundation for whatever is built there. There is a major underground stream there that may raise questions about the ground stability.

DEP signed off on the project but the buyer of the site will probably want to have further study of the contamination done, she says.

“Building on the property is going to be very expensive because of the substrata and it is a floodplain,” Benson says. “Whatever is built there will have to be raised up 15 feet above Main Street.”

2Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Re: Old Stinky ECUA property 1/11/2014, 9:08 pm

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Maybe that would be a good place for my winter wonderland idea... outdoor ice skating, toboggan run, ice sculpture...

I can waste a hell of alot more money than studder.

3Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Re: Old Stinky ECUA property 1/11/2014, 9:11 pm

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Shannon’s Window: The cost of another man’s bad habits
Image of Shannon Nickinson - Editor, Progress + Promise —Shannon Nickinson - Editor, Progress + Promise —
This ought to be enough to make you drop the Big Mac.

Smoking, obesity and being overweight cost Escambia and Santa Rosa employers $800 million this year.

That is from David Sjoberg, who heads the Partnership for a Healthy Community. The Partnership has assessed the health of the Escambia-Santa Rosa area four times in the last 18 years.

In 18 years, the picture has never improved. Not once.

We rank 55th out of 67 counties in the state in terms of our health outcomes. And we do a lot of it to ourselves.
We outpace our peers counties in high rates of sexually transmitted diseases, indicators related to acts of violence, sexual assault offenses, theft, obesity, smoking and alcohol-related injuries. We go to the emergency room more frequently for things that aren’t really emergencies, driving up the cost of care to the system, taxpayers and individuals. Many of the diseases that are highly prevalent here -- such as heart disease, diabetes and high blood pressure -- are things that we have the power to reduce through our behavior. We don’t.

We are at risk of being viewed the way Dean Wormer warned Flounder about going through life -- eating and drinking too much and not living up to our educational potential.

Don’t think you pay for it when someone else chose fast-food over a salad? Think one man’s Coca-Cola is no skin off your wallet? Think again, brothers and sisters.

The new hangar and facilities outlined for ST Aerospace at Pensacola International Airport is slated to cost $37.34 million, for about 300 jobs. We could have 21 ST Aerospaces for the $800 million our poor health cost us this year, with enough left over for a couple of trips to Hamburg to find out why the German education and workforce development system is more integrated, responsive and functional than ours.

Put that in your iced tea and stir it.

Sjoberg says that until the Partnership’s cause is embraced by the community at large, we can essentially expect to keep throwing good money after bad when it comes to the toll our habits and lifestyle take on our bottom line.“If it is the health care organizations trying to do something about it, that is fine, but if this doesn’t become a communitywide effort, nothing is going is change,” he says.

To that end, the Partnership this year is going to focus its efforts on healthy weight, smoking and access to health care through the Live Well Northwest Florida program. Already 60 companies have signed up to get information, resources and guidance about how they can help their employees live healthier, which in turn reduces healthcare costs for them. (Learn about the effort here: www.pfahc.org)

In early 2014, Sjoberg says the Partnership will work with the local Health Departments on a childhood obesity campaign as well, an important effort in a county where 19 percent of the students are overweight and another 16 percent are at risk of being so.

Another boon for 2014 will be the services of Jan O’Neill from the University of Wisconsin. O’Neill will be our “community coach” thanks to a grant the Partnership received Dec. 26 from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Sjoberg says O’Neill will be able to share “best practices” of what has improved public health in other communities across the country from which we may draw inspiration.

“We want to make sure that we are looking at the right things when we suggest interventions for employers, that we are fully exposed to things that have worked well in other parts of the country,” Sjoberg says.

“We will pretty much start from scratch when she gets here.”

With such a long way to go, even small steps ought to yield visible results.

Blue Wahoos doing their share. LOL
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4Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Re: Old Stinky ECUA property 1/12/2014, 3:21 am

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I heard people talking over at Greyhound that the site may be targeted for a Casino if approved, and that apparently the dog tracks will get an automatic piece of any new casino approved. I listened to a dealer who convinced me that a casino is going on old stinky......like done deal, but it could simplybe the usual bs around a poker table, but some folks who were discussing the downtown location were intelligent and seemed very knowledgeable.

5Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Re: Old Stinky ECUA property 1/12/2014, 10:37 am

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Maybe, but I doubt it.  The last play was for the Jones Swamp area.  See the emails from Genve V on the subject of the "Bingo" hall.
Better question is  " What happens in a storm if they raise the ECUA property 15 feet?  They have already raised the Ball Park 15+ feet.  Now if they do the same thing across Main street on the ECUA property and leave the elevation of the road the same it would appear you would have a valley that would not be conducive to good storm water management.  There are already drainage issues.  Remember Opening day?

6Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Re: Old Stinky ECUA property 1/12/2014, 10:49 am

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There are a lot of ways to get your 15 feet without using fill. A concrete pile platform with proper retention will have zero impact on main street.

7Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Re: Old Stinky ECUA property 1/12/2014, 10:55 am

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2seaoat wrote:There are a lot of ways to get your 15 feet without using fill.  A concrete pile platform with proper retention will have zero impact on main street.  

There is a major underground stream there that may raise questions about the ground stability.

8Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Re: Old Stinky ECUA property 1/12/2014, 10:56 am

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I propose we dig a basement below the casino and move all govt into it. Think of the prime sites that would open up.

9Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Re: Old Stinky ECUA property 1/12/2014, 10:57 am

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Look for more housing like Aragon Court.

10Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Re: Old Stinky ECUA property 1/12/2014, 10:58 am

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PkrBum wrote:I propose we dig a basement below the casino and move all govt into it. Think of the prime sites that would open up.

Sell City Hall to the Casino guys. Problem solved

11Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Re: Old Stinky ECUA property 1/12/2014, 11:23 am

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L Benson of the ECUA said they built the Shit plant in 1937.  This is photo from 1950.  Where is the plant?
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12Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Re: Old Stinky ECUA property 1/12/2014, 11:42 am

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2seaoat wrote:I heard people talking over at Greyhound that the site may be targeted for a Casino if approved, and that apparently the dog tracks will get an automatic piece of any new casino approved. I listened to a dealer who convinced me that a casino is going on old stinky......like done deal, but it could simplybe the usual bs around a poker table, but some folks who were discussing the downtown location were intelligent and seemed very knowledgeable.

I had been told just before the poker room opened (can't tell you by who) that the reason Porch Creek purchased controlling interest was sole purpose of full blown casino and resort destination. As the past couple of years have gone by I thought the person who told me was full of it, now there may be a chance. I watched the live stream of the town hall meeting the other night and the audience was about 50-50 on the issue. I think the only way it will become legal is the rest of Florida approves it, because the panhandle wants to remain stagnant. Robertson is sure going to fight against it.

13Old Stinky ECUA property Empty Re: Old Stinky ECUA property 1/12/2014, 11:47 am

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I have to agree that a casino is coming. I just don't think it will be downtown. I could be wrong, I never saw a Baseball stadium either. I would venture to guess it will be on the westside, some where there will be room for expansion. Just a guess. Smile

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