Flu shots good or bad ?..Leave Neko's site for Neko info....

Ghost Rider wrote:I totally agree Teo. As I have told SO, I take a neutral stance on it. It is other peoples business whether they get one or not and who am I to attempt to sway them one way or another. But you are correct, this topic should be debated here instead of the one dedicated to Neko's illness.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Ghost Rider wrote:I totally agree Teo. As I have told SO, I take a neutral stance on it. It is other peoples business whether they get one or not and who am I to attempt to sway them one way or another. But you are correct, this topic should be debated here instead of the one dedicated to Neko's illness.

Thanks you did a good job trying to reason with the forum's bloated ego....

RottiesRule wrote:I tend to agree with G.R. on this subject. If it makes you feel better, then by all means get a flu shot.
Personally, I received too many "vaccinations" while in the Army and am leery.
Like G.R., I have never had the flu or a serious cold (nor any childhood diseases). It may be my immune system, good habits or luck. Who knows.
If I get sick it's on me. I do try to be careful during flu season when out in public and watch what I touch and who I am around.
For instance, how many of you use the wipes that are made available in the Grocery stores to wipe your hands and shopping cart?
Practicing good hygiene, healthy meals and exercise have worked for me so far.
My heart goes out to Neko and her family. I really hope she beats this.
Stay Safe.

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:I don't do flu shots. Of course, when I was in the Marines, they would line the whole squadron up and make us roll up our sleeves. I would afterward contract the flu for a couple of days. I stopped getting flu shots when my military service was over.

QueenOfHearts wrote:Why are you supposed to get the flu shot every year? Weren't our immunizations a once in a lifetime shot, like the polio vaccine?

RottiesRule wrote:thank you rottie, that was perfect.

TEOTWAWKI wrote:Many who died had already been vaccinated
The CDC is intentionally not tracking how many of the dead were previously vaccinated. They want you (and mainstream media journalists) to mistakenly believe that ZERO deaths occurred in those who were vaccinated. But this is blatantly false. Being vaccinated against H1N1 swine flu offers absolutely no reduction in mortality from swine flu infections.

And that means roughly 20% of the 11,160 Americans who died from the swine flu were probably already vaccinated against swine flu. That comes to around 2,200 deaths in people who were vaccinated!

How do I know that swine flu vaccines don't reduce infection mortality? Because I've looked through all the randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trials that have ever been conducted on H1N1 vaccines. It didn't take me very long, because the number of such clinical trials is ZERO.

That's right: There is not a single shred of evidence in existence today that scientifically supports the myth that H1N1 vaccines reduce mortality from H1N1 infections. The best evidence I can find on vaccines that target seasonal flu indicates a maximum mortality reduction effect of somewhere around 1% of those who are vaccinated. The other 99% have the same mortality rate as people who were not vaccinated.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/027956_H1N1_vaccine_CDC.html#ixzz2ophGFpMD


And that is a little tidbit of vital information that Seaoat so selectively leaves out of all those rants he had last night. He talked about the miracle drug and how it is supposed to prevent the flu, but there are those that get the shot and still die. Reminds me of the HPV shot for teens and pre-teen girls. After a few deaths from it Gardasil was pulled. Seaoat was saying that if the flu shot saves at least one person, it was worth it, well I say that if one death is caused by it, it was not worth it, just ask the loved ones of the deceased

Chrissy wrote:




Who is the NVIC from which this video came from?

http://www.nvic.org/

QueenOfHearts wrote:Why are you supposed to get the flu shot every year? Weren't our immunizations a once in a lifetime shot, like the polio vaccine?

BirdyBack wrote:

QueenOfHearts wrote:Why are you supposed to get the flu shot every year? Weren't our immunizations a once in a lifetime shot, like the polio vaccine?

There is a different strain of flu every year.  It mutates, usually after doctors have chosen a vaccine against the virus they believe is most likely to be prevalent in any given year.  It's a crap shoot.  The vaccine given in the mid-70's made me very ill, so I refused to get another until this year.  Since I was diagnosed with COPD, I decided to take that extra precaution of getting the vaccine this year.  I also changed jobs so that I have less exposure to the general public.  Being germophobic, I also do a lot of hand-washing and hand sanitizers.

BirdyBack wrote:

QueenOfHearts wrote:Why are you supposed to get the flu shot every year? Weren't our immunizations a once in a lifetime shot, like the polio vaccine?

There is a different strain of flu every year.  It mutates, usually after doctors have chosen a vaccine against the virus they believe is most likely to be prevalent in any given year.  It's a crap shoot.  The vaccine given in the mid-70's made me very ill, so I refused to get another until this year.  Since I was diagnosed with COPD, I decided to take that extra precaution of getting the vaccine this year.  I also changed jobs so that I have less exposure to the general public.  Being germophobic, I also do a lot of hand-washing and hand sanitizers.

QueenOfHearts wrote:

BirdyBack wrote:

QueenOfHearts wrote:Why are you supposed to get the flu shot every year? Weren't our immunizations a once in a lifetime shot, like the polio vaccine?

There is a different strain of flu every year.  It mutates, usually after doctors have chosen a vaccine against the virus they believe is most likely to be prevalent in any given year.  It's a crap shoot.  The vaccine given in the mid-70's made me very ill, so I refused to get another until this year.  Since I was diagnosed with COPD, I decided to take that extra precaution of getting the vaccine this year.  I also changed jobs so that I have less exposure to the general public.  Being germophobic, I also do a lot of hand-washing and hand sanitizers.

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Have they had a flu vaccine since the 70s?  I thought it just came out the last 10 years or so.  They have a pneumonia shot now too and I think that is yearly as we'll.

I always thought you were supposed to get the vaccines if you were an an at-risk group such as elderly, compromised immune system, etc.   My doctor has told me not to get the flu vaccine because of my allergy to eggs.  I think these vaccines are egg based or something.