Chase's Twitter Gambit Devolves Into All-Time PR Fiasco

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/279-82/20457-chases-twitter-gambit-devolves-into-all-time-pr-fiasco

I wonder if they'll be fined more than they were bailed out? lol... ya right. Corp/national socialism is fascism.

The govt didn't keep the sky from falling as you contended... they preserved the very things you say you hate.

I'm sorry you have a mental block when it comes to your terms. You have co-opted a view of fascism that is 180 degrees from reality. J P Morgan Chase has lost an important, but often underrated, asset called "goodwill".

Floridatexan wrote:
I'm sorry you have a mental block when it comes to your terms. You have co-opted a view of fascism that is 180 degrees from reality. J P Morgan Chase has lost an important, but often underrated, asset called "goodwill".

Then you tell me what the big distinction is between it and all the rest of the collectivist authoritarian central plans?

lol... you even have to ignore the words of the leaders and key players of that time... and instead regurgitate revision.

Control is effective ownership... the pretense of private property is a minor detail. It all ends the same.

PkrBum wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
I'm sorry you have a mental block when it comes to your terms.  You have co-opted a view of fascism that is 180 degrees from reality.  J P Morgan Chase has lost an important, but often underrated, asset called "goodwill".

Then you tell me what the big distinction is between it and all the rest of the collectivist authoritarian central plans?

lol... you even have to ignore the words of the leaders and key players of that time... and instead regurgitate revision.

Control is effective ownership... the pretense of private property is a minor detail. It all ends the same.

Why do you insist on referring to corporate domination of the economy as "collectivism"?  BTW, I lived through those years, and the worst abuser of the economy was Reagan.  And fascism is almost the direct opposite of liberalism.

Floridatexan wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
I'm sorry you have a mental block when it comes to your terms.  You have co-opted a view of fascism that is 180 degrees from reality.  J P Morgan Chase has lost an important, but often underrated, asset called "goodwill".

Then you tell me what the big distinction is between it and all the rest of the collectivist authoritarian central plans?

lol... you even have to ignore the words of the leaders and key players of that time... and instead regurgitate revision.

Control is effective ownership... the pretense of private property is a minor detail. It all ends the same.

Why do you insist on referring to corporate domination of the economy as "collectivism"?  BTW, I lived through those years, and the worst abuser of the economy was Reagan.  And fascism is almost the direct opposite of liberalism.

A scale of any use would go from the near anarchy of a govt so limited and powers dispersed to the most large and in charge control of everything central govt. Anarchy to Authoritarianism. Right to left. Now where would fascism really fit?

PkrBum wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
I'm sorry you have a mental block when it comes to your terms.  You have co-opted a view of fascism that is 180 degrees from reality.  J P Morgan Chase has lost an important, but often underrated, asset called "goodwill".

Then you tell me what the big distinction is between it and all the rest of the collectivist authoritarian central plans?

lol... you even have to ignore the words of the leaders and key players of that time... and instead regurgitate revision.

Control is effective ownership... the pretense of private property is a minor detail. It all ends the same.

Why do you insist on referring to corporate domination of the economy as "collectivism"?  BTW, I lived through those years, and the worst abuser of the economy was Reagan.  And fascism is almost the direct opposite of liberalism.

A scale of any use would go from the near anarchy of a govt so limited and powers dispersed to the most large and in charge control of everything central govt. Anarchy to Authoritarianism. Right to left. Now where would fascism really fit?

Fascism is by definition right-wing.



You will recognize this as the police response to the Occupy movement, a (for the most part) peaceful protest against the bank bailouts, among other injustices.

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-much-daylight-is-there-between.html

"Fascism is by definition right-wing."


You're just parroting what you were taught. The lightest independent thght would see the fundamental flaw.

The better question is why? It certainly wasn't considered right by the contemporary leaders. You've seen their words.

I think the reason is that the progressives and left wanted distance from what they knew was basically their idea.

PkrBum wrote:"Fascism is by definition right-wing."


You're just parroting what you were taught. The lightest independent thght would see the fundamental flaw.

The better question is why? It certainly wasn't considered right by the contemporary leaders. You've seen their words.

I think the reason is that the progressives and left wanted distance from what they knew was basically their idea.

Why would you think that? LOL, you accuse me of being brainwashed. Hitler may have branded himself a socialist, but he was the furthest thing from it...supported by the biggest German and American bankers and corporations at the time...including the illustrious Prescott Bush, father of George H W Bush (if those are their real names).

Let's try this again:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. - See more at: http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2011/04/allen-west-heywood-broun-and-another.html#sthash.pwQcrTro.dpuf

PkrBum wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

PkrBum wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:
I'm sorry you have a mental block when it comes to your terms.  You have co-opted a view of fascism that is 180 degrees from reality.  J P Morgan Chase has lost an important, but often underrated, asset called "goodwill".

Then you tell me what the big distinction is between it and all the rest of the collectivist authoritarian central plans?

lol... you even have to ignore the words of the leaders and key players of that time... and instead regurgitate revision.

Control is effective ownership... the pretense of private property is a minor detail. It all ends the same.

Why do you insist on referring to corporate domination of the economy as "collectivism"?  BTW, I lived through those years, and the worst abuser of the economy was Reagan.  And fascism is almost the direct opposite of liberalism.

A scale of any use would go from the near anarchy of a govt so limited and powers dispersed to the most large and in charge control of everything central govt. Anarchy to Authoritarianism. Right to left. Now where would fascism really fit?

Instead of a line, Left to Right, our political realm is a circle.

Floridatexan wrote:

PkrBum wrote:"Fascism is by definition right-wing."


You're just parroting what you were taught. The lightest independent thght would see the fundamental flaw.

The better question is why? It certainly wasn't considered right by the contemporary leaders. You've seen their words.

I think the reason is that the progressives and left wanted distance from what they knew was basically their idea.

Why would you think that?  LOL, you accuse me of being brainwashed.  Hitler may have branded himself a socialist, but he was the furthest thing from it...supported by the biggest German and American bankers and corporations at the time...including the illustrious Prescott Bush, father of George H W Bush (if those are their real names).  

Let's try this again:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. - See more at: http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2011/04/allen-west-heywood-broun-and-another.html#sthash.pwQcrTro.dpuf

Just can't make these things up. If you recall, scores of America's largest corporations worked with and invested in Hitler and the Nazi's. America did not want to go to war with Germany.

Did you recall that President Barack Hussein Obama's father was a Communist? That's a bit closer than someone's grandfather.

Keep up the good work! You are amusing in your desperation to divert attention from the collapse of the administration of President Obama.

It makes no sense that a scale used to measure a level of govt would place fascism on the end of least govt.

Markle wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:

PkrBum wrote:"Fascism is by definition right-wing."


You're just parroting what you were taught. The lightest independent thght would see the fundamental flaw.

The better question is why? It certainly wasn't considered right by the contemporary leaders. You've seen their words.

I think the reason is that the progressives and left wanted distance from what they knew was basically their idea.

Why would you think that?  LOL, you accuse me of being brainwashed.  Hitler may have branded himself a socialist, but he was the furthest thing from it...supported by the biggest German and American bankers and corporations at the time...including the illustrious Prescott Bush, father of George H W Bush (if those are their real names).  

Let's try this again:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. - See more at: http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2011/04/allen-west-heywood-broun-and-another.html#sthash.pwQcrTro.dpuf

Just can't make these things up.  If you recall, scores of America's largest corporations worked with and invested in Hitler and the Nazi's.  America did not want to go to war with Germany.

Did you recall that President Barack Hussein Obama's father was a Communist?  That's a bit closer than someone's grandfather.

Keep up the good work!  You are amusing in your desperation to divert attention from the collapse of the administration of President Obama.

Do you recall that George H W Bush's father was a Nazi financier and collaborator? In short, a fascist. The Obama administration is not collapsing. The last election is your proof. Keep clinging to your failed ideology.