Palin speaks out on Obamacare

Sal wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

People need to remember that the website is not health care reform nor is it actual medical treatment. It is a website. Sure, it is totally ironic bordering on comical that the most comprehensive reform of the health care system was successfully passed during the administration of the most technologically astute groups of people to ever inhabit the White House and it hit the road with a snafu the size of Texas because of the IT mess up.

Given that, it in itself is not the PPACA.

I predict in two years this seemingly huge fubar will be a distant memory and most people will be experiencing the benefits of the reform.

Markle wrote:

othershoe1030 wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

People need to remember that the website is not health care reform nor is it actual medical treatment. It is a website. Sure, it is totally ironic bordering on comical that the most comprehensive reform of the health care system was successfully passed during the administration of the most technologically astute groups of people to ever inhabit the White House and it hit the road with a snafu the size of Texas because of the IT mess up.

Given that, it in itself is not the PPACA.

I predict in two years this seemingly huge fubar will be a distant memory and most people will be experiencing the benefits of the reform.

In two years it will have collapsed.  The facts about small employers will become known and they be getting dropped and faced with higher rates and higher deductible as will large businesses.

EVEN the Democrats are running from this train wreck and it is obvious President Barack Hussein Obama intentionally deceived the voters and would never have won the primaries had he been honest.

othershoe1030 wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

People need to remember that the website is not health care reform nor is it actual medical treatment. It is a website. Sure, it is totally ironic bordering on comical that the most comprehensive reform of the health care system was successfully passed during the administration of the most technologically astute groups of people to ever inhabit the White House and it hit the road with a snafu the size of Texas because of the IT mess up.

Given that, it in itself is not the PPACA.

I predict in two years this seemingly huge fubar will be a distant memory and most people will be experiencing the benefits of the reform.

othershoe1030 wrote:

PACEDOG#1 wrote:

People need to remember that the website is not health care reform nor is it actual medical treatment. It is a website. Sure, it is totally ironic bordering on comical that the most comprehensive reform of the health care system was successfully passed during the administration of the most technologically astute groups of people to ever inhabit the White House and it hit the road with a snafu the size of Texas because of the IT mess up.

Given that, it in itself is not the PPACA.

I predict in two years this seemingly huge fubar will be a distant memory and most people will be experiencing the benefits of the reform.

othershoe1030 wrote:Here are Palin's thoughts on our health care situation taken from an interview on the Today Show's interview by Matt Lauer.

Matt Lauer:  "What are we hearing from the Tea Party in terms of an absolute, realistic plan that can be an alternative to Obamacare?"
Without even thinking, Palin sprung into action:

Said Palin: "The plan is to allow those things that had been proposed over many years to reform a health-care system in America that certainly does need more help so that there's more competition, there's less tort reform threat, there's less trajectory of the cost increases, and those plans have been proposed over and over again. And what thwarts those plans? It's the far left. It's President Obama and his supporters who will not allow the Republicans to usher in free market, patient-centered, doctor-patient relationship links to reform health care."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/12/1254979/-Palin-Asked-for-Her-Alternative-to-ACA-She-NAILS-It?detail=email

othershoe1030 wrote:Here's another view of the ACA status, old policies, etc.

No, Obama Didn't Lie to You About Your Health Care Plans
The claim that President Obama lied in saying that people could keep their insurance looks like another Fox News special.
November 13, 2013  |  


President Obama has been getting a lot of grief in the last few weeks over his pledge that with the Affordable Care Act (ACA) in place, people would be able to keep their insurance if they like it. The media have been filled with stories about people across the country who are having their insurance policies terminated, ostensibly because they did not meet the requirements of the ACA. While this has led many to say that Obama was lying, there is much less here than meets the eye.

First, it is important to note that the ACA grand-fathered all the individual policies that were in place at the time the law was enacted. This means that the plans in effect at the time that President Obama was pushing the bill could still be offered even if they did not meet all the standards laid out in the ACA.

The plans being terminated because they don't meet the minimal standards were all plans that insurers introduced after the passage of the ACA. Insurers introduced these plans knowing that they would not meet the standards that would come into effect in 2014. Insurers may not have informed their clients at the time they sold these plans that they would not be available after 2014 because they had designed a plan that did not comply with the ACA.

However if the insurers didn't tell their clients that the new plans would only be available for a short period of time, the blame would seem to rest with the insurance companies, not the ACA. After all, President Obama did not promise people that he would keep insurers from developing new plans that will not comply with the provisions of the ACA.

In addition to the new plans that were created that did not comply with the terms of the ACA, there have been complaints that the grandfathering was too strict. For example, insurers can only raise their premiums or deductibles by a small amount above the rate of medical inflation. As a result, many of the plans in existence at the time of the ACA are losing their grandfathered status.

http://www.alternet.org/no-obama-didnt-lie-you-about-your-health-care-plans?page=0%2C0&akid=11142.310455.mMtTb4&rd=1&src=newsletter923725&t=3

othershoe1030 wrote:Here's another view of the ACA status, old policies, etc.

No, Obama Didn't Lie to You About Your Health Care Plans
The claim that President Obama lied in saying that people could keep their insurance looks like another Fox News special.
November 13, 2013  |  


President Obama has been getting a lot of grief in the last few weeks over his pledge that with the Affordable Care Act (ACA) in place, people would be able to keep their insurance if they like it. The media have been filled with stories about people across the country who are having their insurance policies terminated, ostensibly because they did not meet the requirements of the ACA. While this has led many to say that Obama was lying, there is much less here than meets the eye.

First, it is important to note that the ACA grand-fathered all the individual policies that were in place at the time the law was enacted. This means that the plans in effect at the time that President Obama was pushing the bill could still be offered even if they did not meet all the standards laid out in the ACA.

The plans being terminated because they don't meet the minimal standards were all plans that insurers introduced after the passage of the ACA. Insurers introduced these plans knowing that they would not meet the standards that would come into effect in 2014. Insurers may not have informed their clients at the time they sold these plans that they would not be available after 2014 because they had designed a plan that did not comply with the ACA.

However if the insurers didn't tell their clients that the new plans would only be available for a short period of time, the blame would seem to rest with the insurance companies, not the ACA. After all, President Obama did not promise people that he would keep insurers from developing new plans that will not comply with the provisions of the ACA.

In addition to the new plans that were created that did not comply with the terms of the ACA, there have been complaints that the grandfathering was too strict. For example, insurers can only raise their premiums or deductibles by a small amount above the rate of medical inflation. As a result, many of the plans in existence at the time of the ACA are losing their grandfathered status.

http://www.alternet.org/no-obama-didnt-lie-you-about-your-health-care-plans?page=0%2C0&akid=11142.310455.mMtTb4&rd=1&src=newsletter923725&t=3

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Sarah Palin couldn't put a cogent thought together if she wanted to. And these Frightwingers would make her a president, if they could. Frightening!

Joanimaroni wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Sarah Palin couldn't put a cogent thought together if she wanted to. And these Frightwingers would make her a president, if they could. Frightening!

Who would?

Damaged Eagle wrote:

Joanimaroni wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Sarah Palin couldn't put a cogent thought together if she wanted to. And these Frightwingers would make her a president, if they could. Frightening!

Who would?

I'll take her as my vice-president.

Then the liberals will gladly pay, out of their own pockets mind you, for my increased security and health care while I'm in office.

Damaged Eagle for President campaign begins now!

*****ROFLMAO*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJwZhqU0QL4

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:Sarah Palin couldn't put a cogent thought together if she wanted to. And these Frightwingers would make her a president, if they could. Frightening!

Joanimaroni wrote:

ZVUGKTUBM wrote:[color=#333399]

I'll take her as my vice-president.

Then the liberals will gladly pay, out of their own pockets mind you, for my increased security and health care while I'm in office.

Damaged Eagle for President campaign begins now!

*****ROFLMAO*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJwZhqU0QL4

As president, you would be exempt from Obamacare....and like the other high paid politicians keep your high quality government paid  insurance for life.

Markle wrote:My curiosity continues.

Chaos is raining down everywhere about ObamaCare's fraud and corruption along with Benghazi, the IRS, Fast and Furious and who do the Progressives want to discuss?  Former Governor Sarah Palin.

Key players in ObamaCare are interviewed, one after the other, on Fox News and the Progressives refuse to learn and then wonder why their world is falling apart all around them.

Go figure!

knothead wrote:What person, in their right mind, could give a rat's behind what Sarah thinks for goodness sake . . . . she's a bimbo personified!

othershoe1030 wrote:

knothead wrote:What person, in their right mind, could give a rat's behind what Sarah thinks for goodness sake . . . . she's a bimbo personified!

True, however the media still seems to find her ramblings irresistible. Perhaps it is a misplaced attempt to present "both sides of an issue"? Then she is so HOT! always a good reason to vote for someone don't you think?