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The Nazis arose out of a macho homosexual subculture long-incubating in Germany that idealized warriorship and homosexual pederasty (males with younger males)

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Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

-- Many founding and high-ranking Nazis were homosexuals.
The evidence indicates that Adolf Hitler himself was a homosexual.
Persecution of homosexuals by the Nazis was for show to deflect from themselves and keep the German public fooled. And only feminine type homosexuals were then persecuted. The "Butch" homosexuals who founded Nazism viewed femmes as lower than heterosexuals, not even men. The persecution of a small percentage of Germany's femme gays was a public relations move to obfuscate the Nazis' own perversity and placate the German masses.

-- The Nazi movement was riddled with homosexuals at the highest level. The most obvious was Ernst Rohm, the most powerful Nazi in Germany after Hitler. Homosexuals prefer other homosexuals for company.

more...

http://gaynazis.com/

TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

American gays are really just closet Nazis...report at noon.

Guest


Guest

Führerprinzip... this allowed them to become more and more extreme. The roots go in directions that may surprise you.

The nazis did very little that was original.

2seaoat



so liberal icon Harvey milk would be a good candidate to be a nazi


Nope, but having a track record of broken relationships, failed artistic expression, and general personal failure does give a better indication of migration to nazi ideals than sexual preference. It allow scapegoats to explain their life position. Making people of color something less than their existence gives them a framework to rationalize their personal failure.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

TEOTWAWKI wrote:American gays are really just closet Nazis...report at noon.
It appears so. Nazis and homosexuals are the same thing.
And the mainstream media covered all this up no different than they covered up FDR being a wheelchair.
It makes you wonder about all the other lies we've been told.

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2seaoat wrote:so liberal icon Harvey milk would be a good candidate to be a nazi


Nope, but having a track record of broken relationships, failed artistic expression, and general personal failure does give a better indication of migration to nazi ideals than sexual preference. It allow scapegoats to explain their life position. Making people of color something less than their existence gives them a framework to rationalize their personal failure.
Are you talking about the progressive policies of woodrow wilson... or eugenics? Migration indeed... or just adoption.

2seaoat



Are you talking about the progressive policies of woodrow wilson... or eugenics? Migration indeed... or just adoption.


Are you OK? Confused that Woodrow Wilson is not considered a Nazi? Not surprised in the least.

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2seaoat wrote:Are you talking about the progressive policies of woodrow wilson... or eugenics? Migration indeed... or just adoption.


Are you OK? Confused that Woodrow Wilson is not considered a Nazi? Not surprised in the least.
Hell... he might have been the first nazi. There's certainly no doubt that many nazi ideals mirrored the progressives.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

PkrBum wrote: There's certainly no doubt that many nazi ideals mirrored the progressives.
Hitler Was A Socialist, (And Not A Right Wing Conservative)

http://democraticpeace.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/hitler-was-a-socialist/

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Bob wrote:
PkrBum wrote: There's certainly no doubt that many nazi ideals mirrored the progressives.
Hitler Was A Socialist, (And Not A Right Wing Conservative)

http://democraticpeace.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/hitler-was-a-socialist/
Collectivist for sure.

Not sure how that gets moved completely across the spectrum to the right... but it is repeated over and over.

Up is down... etc.

2seaoat



Hitler was a fascist and a nazi. End of story. Nazis believe in hate and bigotry and racial superiority. Do not try to confuse the issue of the central tenets of being a Nazi. The political spectrum is a circle. Different political ideology fits on different locations on that circle. A fascist Nazi ideology is 180 degrees from the point on that ideological from democratic socialism. When a person comes on this forum and continually spews nazi ideology under the guise of libertarian views, they only fool the fool. Vigilance with a Nazi is the only solution, and sitting on the fence does not cut it......you either are with a Nazi or against the ideology.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

2seaoat wrote:Hitler was a fascist and a nazi.  End of story.
Well that's the end of the story alright if you're getting the story from the liberal mainstream media.

But Hitler himself said "I am a socialist" and staunchly opposed capitalism.

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" spews nazi ideology under the guise of libertarian view "

lol... listen to yourself. You can't be typing this shit w a straight face.

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Guest

Bob wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Hitler was a fascist and a nazi.  End of story.
Well that's the end of the story alright if you're getting the story from the  liberal mainstream media.

But Hitler himself said "I am a socialist" and staunchly opposed capitalism.
wasn't the word Nazi formed from the words "national socialist party" or something like that

Joanimaroni

Joanimaroni

Bob wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Hitler was a fascist and a nazi.  End of story.
Well that's the end of the story alright if you're getting the story from the  liberal mainstream media.

But Hitler himself said "I am a socialist" and staunchly opposed capitalism.

What the hell did Hitler know? Seaoat is never wrong, ask him.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Bob wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Hitler was a fascist and a nazi.  End of story.
Well that's the end of the story alright if you're getting the story from the  liberal mainstream media.

But Hitler himself said "I am a socialist" and staunchly opposed capitalism.
Oh, good grief, Bob. Hitler was NOT a socialist. He was a tool for the uber-capitalists, aka FASCISTS.

http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=WallStHitler&C=12.0

"...Summary
We have demonstrated with documentary evidence a number of critical associations between Wall Street international bankers and the rise of Hitler and Naziism in Germany.

First: that Wall Street financed the German cartels in the mid-1920s which in turn proceeded to bring Hitler to power.

Second: that the financing for Hitler and his S.S. street thugs came in part from affiliates or subsidiaries of U.S. firms, including Henry Ford in 1922, payments by I.G. Farben and General Electric in 1933, followed by the Standard Oil of New Jersey and I.T.T. subsidiary payments to Heinrich Himmler up to 1944.

Third: that U.S. multi-nationals under the control of Wall Street profited handsomely from Hitler's military construction program in the 1930s and at least until 1942.

Fourth: that these same international bankers used political influence in the U.S. to cover up their wartime collaboration and to do this infiltrated the U.S. Control Commission for Germany..."

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I could have got him mixed up with Adolph Sutton who was a jukebox operator in Monroeville.

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"Of what importance is all that, if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the Party, is supreme over them regardless of whether they are owners or workers. All that is unessential; our socialism goes far deeper. It establishes a relationship of the individual to the State, the national community. Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.”

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Floridatexan wrote:
Bob wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Hitler was a fascist and a nazi.  End of story.
Well that's the end of the story alright if you're getting the story from the  liberal mainstream media.

But Hitler himself said "I am a socialist" and staunchly opposed capitalism.
Oh, good grief, Bob.  Hitler was NOT a socialist.  He was a tool for the uber-capitalists, aka FASCISTS.  

http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=WallStHitler&C=12.0

"...Summary
We have demonstrated with documentary evidence a number of critical associations between Wall Street international bankers and the rise of Hitler and Naziism in Germany.

First: that Wall Street financed the German cartels in the mid-1920s which in turn proceeded to bring Hitler to power.

Second: that the financing for Hitler and his S.S. street thugs came in part from affiliates or subsidiaries of U.S. firms, including Henry Ford in 1922, payments by I.G. Farben and General Electric in 1933, followed by the Standard Oil of New Jersey and I.T.T. subsidiary payments to Heinrich Himmler up to 1944.

Third: that U.S. multi-nationals under the control of Wall Street profited handsomely from Hitler's military construction program in the 1930s and at least until 1942.

Fourth: that these same international bankers used political influence in the U.S. to cover up their wartime collaboration and to do this infiltrated the U.S. Control Commission for Germany..."

The Nazi Party:
Platform of the National-Socialist German Workers’ Party

The Program of the German Workers’ Party is a program for our time.

The leadership rejects the establishment of new aims after those set out in the Program have been achieved, for the sole purpose of making it possible for the Party to continue to exist as the result of the artificially stimulated dissatisfaction of the masses.


1. We demand the uniting of all Germans within one Greater Germany, on the basis of the right to self-determination of nations.

2. We demand equal rights for the German people (Volk) with respect to other nations, and the annulment of the peace treaty of Versailles and St. Germain.

3. We demand land and soil (Colonies) to feed our People and settle our excess population.

4. Only Nationals (Volksgenossen) can be Citizens of the State. Only persons of German blood can be Nationals, regardless of religious affiliation. No Jew can therefore be a German National.

5. Any person who is not a Citizen will be able to live in Germany only as a guest and must be subject to legislation for Aliens.

6. Only a Citizen is entitled to decide the leadership and laws of the State. We therefore demand that only Citizens may hold public office, regardless of whether it is a national, state or local office.

We oppose the corrupting parliamentary custom of making party considerations, and not character and ability, the criterion for appointments to official positions.

7. We demand that the State make it its duty to provide opportunities of employment first of all for its own Citizens. If it is not possible to maintain the entire population of the State, then foreign nationals (non-Citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.

8. Any further immigration of non-Germans is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who entered Germany after August 2, 1914, be forced to leave the Reich without delay.

9. All German Citizens must have equal rights and duties.

10. It must be the first duty of every Citizen to carry out intellectual or physical work. Individual activity must not be harmful to the public interest and must be pursued within the framework of the community and for the general good.

We therefore demand:


11. The abolition of all income obtained without labor or effort.

Breaking the Servitude of Interest.


12. In view of the tremendous sacrifices in property and blood demanded of the nation by every war, personal gain from the war must be termed a crime against the nation. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all enterprises (already) converted into corporations (trusts).

14. We demand profit-sharing in large enterprises.

15. We demand the large-scale development of old-age pension schemes.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle class; the immediate communalization of the large department stores, which are to be leased at low rates to small tradesmen. We demand the most careful consideration for the owners of small businesses in orders placed by national, state, or community authorities.

17. We demand land reform in accordance with our national needs and a law for expropriation without compensation of land for public purposes. Abolition of ground rent and prevention of all speculation in land.

18. We demand ruthless battle against those who harm the common good by their activities. Persons committing base crimes against the People, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished by death without regard to religion or race.

19. We demand the replacement of Roman Law, which serves a materialistic World Order, by German Law.

20. In order to make higher education – and thereby entry into leading positions – available to every able and industrious German, the State must provide a thorough restructuring of our entire public educational system. The courses of study at all educational institutions are to be adjusted to meet the requirements of practical life. Understanding of the concept of the State must be achieved through the schools (teaching of civics) at the earliest age at which it can be grasped. We demand the education at the public expense of specially gifted children of poor parents, without regard to the latters’ position or occupation.

21. The State must raise the level of national health by means of mother-and-child care, the banning of juvenile labor, achievements of physical fitness through legislation for compulsory gymnastics and sports, and maximum support for all organizations providing physical training for young people.

22. We demand the abolition of hireling troops and the creation of a national army.

23. We demand laws to fight against deliberate political lies and their dissemination by the press. In order to make it possible to create a German press, we demand:


a) all editors and editorial employees of newspapers appearing in the German language must be German by race;

b) non-German newspapers require express permission from the State for their publication. They may not be printed in the German language;

c) any financial participation in a German newspaper or influence on such a paper is to be forbidden by law to non-Germans and the penalty for any breach of this law will be the closing of the newspaper in question, as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-Germans involved.

Newspapers which violate the public interest are to be banned. We demand laws against trends in art and literature which have a destructive effect on our national life, and the suppression of performances that offend against the above requirements.

24. We demand freedom for all religious denominations, provided that they do not endanger the existence of the State or offend the concepts of decency and morality of the Germanic race.

The Party as such stands for positive Christianity, without associating itself with any particular denomination. It fights against the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a permanent revival of our nation can be achieved only from within, on the basis of: Public Interest before Private Interest.


25. To carry out all the above we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the Reich. Unquestioned authority by the political central Parliament over the entire Reich and over its organizations in general. The establishment of trade and professional organizations to enforce the Reich basic laws in the individual states.

The Party leadership promises to take an uncompromising stand, at the cost of their own lives if need be, on the enforcement of the above points.

Munich, Germany

February 24, 1920.

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Chrissy wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Bob wrote:
2seaoat wrote:Hitler was a fascist and a nazi.  End of story.
Well that's the end of the story alright if you're getting the story from the  liberal mainstream media.

But Hitler himself said "I am a socialist" and staunchly opposed capitalism.
Oh, good grief, Bob.  Hitler was NOT a socialist.  He was a tool for the uber-capitalists, aka FASCISTS.  

http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=WallStHitler&C=12.0

"...Summary
We have demonstrated with documentary evidence a number of critical associations between Wall Street international bankers and the rise of Hitler and Naziism in Germany.

First: that Wall Street financed the German cartels in the mid-1920s which in turn proceeded to bring Hitler to power.

Second: that the financing for Hitler and his S.S. street thugs came in part from affiliates or subsidiaries of U.S. firms, including Henry Ford in 1922, payments by I.G. Farben and General Electric in 1933, followed by the Standard Oil of New Jersey and I.T.T. subsidiary payments to Heinrich Himmler up to 1944.

Third: that U.S. multi-nationals under the control of Wall Street profited handsomely from Hitler's military construction program in the 1930s and at least until 1942.

Fourth: that these same international bankers used political influence in the U.S. to cover up their wartime collaboration and to do this infiltrated the U.S. Control Commission for Germany..."

The Nazi Party:
Platform of the National-Socialist German Workers’ Party

The Program of the German Workers’ Party is a program for our time.

The leadership rejects the establishment of new aims after those set out in the Program have been achieved, for the sole purpose of making it possible for the Party to continue to exist as the result of the artificially stimulated dissatisfaction of the masses.


1. We demand the uniting of all Germans within one Greater Germany, on the basis of the right to self-determination of nations.

2. We demand equal rights for the German people (Volk) with respect to other nations, and the annulment of the peace treaty of Versailles and St. Germain.

3. We demand land and soil (Colonies) to feed our People and settle our excess population.

4. Only Nationals (Volksgenossen) can be Citizens of the State. Only persons of German blood can be Nationals, regardless of religious affiliation. No Jew can therefore be a German National.

5. Any person who is not a Citizen will be able to live in Germany only as a guest and must be subject to legislation for Aliens.

6. Only a Citizen is entitled to decide the leadership and laws of the State. We therefore demand that only Citizens may hold public office, regardless of whether it is a national, state or local office.

We oppose the corrupting parliamentary custom of making party considerations, and not character and ability, the criterion for appointments to official positions.

7. We demand that the State make it its duty to provide opportunities of employment first of all for its own Citizens. If it is not possible to maintain the entire population of the State, then foreign nationals (non-Citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.

8. Any further immigration of non-Germans is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who entered Germany after August 2, 1914, be forced to leave the Reich without delay.

9. All German Citizens must have equal rights and duties.

10. It must be the first duty of every Citizen to carry out intellectual or physical work. Individual activity must not be harmful to the public interest and must be pursued within the framework of the community and for the general good.

We therefore demand:


11. The abolition of all income obtained without labor or effort.

Breaking the Servitude of Interest.


12. In view of the tremendous sacrifices in property and blood demanded of the nation by every war, personal gain from the war must be termed a crime against the nation. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all enterprises (already) converted into corporations (trusts).

14. We demand profit-sharing in large enterprises.

15. We demand the large-scale development of old-age pension schemes.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle class; the immediate communalization of the large department stores, which are to be leased at low rates to small tradesmen. We demand the most careful consideration for the owners of small businesses in orders placed by national, state, or community authorities.

17. We demand land reform in accordance with our national needs and a law for expropriation without compensation of land for public purposes. Abolition of ground rent and prevention of all speculation in land.

18. We demand ruthless battle against those who harm the common good by their activities. Persons committing base crimes against the People, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished by death without regard to religion or race.

19. We demand the replacement of Roman Law, which serves a materialistic World Order, by German Law.

20. In order to make higher education – and thereby entry into leading positions – available to every able and industrious German, the State must provide a thorough restructuring of our entire public educational system. The courses of study at all educational institutions are to be adjusted to meet the requirements of practical life. Understanding of the concept of the State must be achieved through the schools (teaching of civics) at the earliest age at which it can be grasped. We demand the education at the public expense of specially gifted children of poor parents, without regard to the latters’ position or occupation.

21. The State must raise the level of national health by means of mother-and-child care, the banning of juvenile labor, achievements of physical fitness through legislation for compulsory gymnastics and sports, and maximum support for all organizations providing physical training for young people.

22. We demand the abolition of hireling troops and the creation of a national army.

23. We demand laws to fight against deliberate political lies and their dissemination by the press. In order to make it possible to create a German press, we demand:


a) all editors and editorial employees of newspapers appearing in the German language must be German by race;

b) non-German newspapers require express permission from the State for their publication. They may not be printed in the German language;

c) any financial participation in a German newspaper or influence on such a paper is to be forbidden by law to non-Germans and the penalty for any breach of this law will be the closing of the newspaper in question, as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-Germans involved.

Newspapers which violate the public interest are to be banned. We demand laws against trends in art and literature which have a destructive effect on our national life, and the suppression of performances that offend against the above requirements.

24. We demand freedom for all religious denominations, provided that they do not endanger the existence of the State or offend the concepts of decency and morality of the Germanic race.

The Party as such stands for positive Christianity, without associating itself with any particular denomination. It fights against the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a permanent revival of our nation can be achieved only from within, on the basis of: Public Interest before Private Interest.


25. To carry out all the above we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the Reich. Unquestioned authority by the political central Parliament over the entire Reich and over its organizations in general. The establishment of trade and professional organizations to enforce the Reich basic laws in the individual states.

The Party leadership promises to take an uncompromising stand, at the cost of their own lives if need be, on the enforcement of the above points.

Munich, Germany

February 24, 1920.

Most of that was pilfered directly from the marxists and progressive movement right here in the old us of a.

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