All pretense removed..USA going Gestapo

TEOTWAWKI wrote:We would be treated better in North Korea.

Sal wrote:

TEOTWAWKI wrote:We would be treated better in North Korea.

Well, there's a theory just begging to be tested.

Floridatexan wrote:I liked this comment (Bobby Choquette):

"OMG, that's hilarious. One side introduces a bill, gets it passed through Congress, signed by the President, and when its Constitutionality is challenged, the new law is upheld by the Supreme Court. You can't be held to a more rigorous standard, and this bill could not have been passed in a more above-board way.

The other side, which put "party" over "country" a long long time ago, commits everything they've got to stopping this new law. Unprecedented filibusters, an unprecedented forty-something attempts at repeal, and when those didn't work, a final, desperate "blow everything up" plan of literally shutting down the federal government.

I can respect even THAT. At least they're still within the rules of the game, even if I find their methods extreme.

But for Mae (and the 100+ folks who clicked the Like button attached to her post) to posit that it's the DEMS who are spiting anyone, or holding anyone "hostage at gunpoint", is a level of hypocrisy that takes this divide from "reasonable people can disagree" to "sickening". I'd ask her to defend this position, to show its untenability, but I'm certain it would be more of the "we freedom lovers are superior to those bleeding heart liberals, we can do no wrong and they can do no right", so why bother?"

Floridatexan wrote:I liked this comment (Bobby Choquette):

"OMG, that's hilarious. One side introduces a bill, gets it passed through Congress, signed by the President, and when its Constitutionality is challenged, the new law is upheld by the Supreme Court. You can't be held to a more rigorous standard, and this bill could not have been passed in a more above-board way.

The other side, which put "party" over "country" a long long time ago, commits everything they've got to stopping this new law. Unprecedented filibusters, an unprecedented forty-something attempts at repeal, and when those didn't work, a final, desperate "blow everything up" plan of literally shutting down the federal government.

I can respect even THAT. At least they're still within the rules of the game, even if I find their methods extreme.

But for Mae (and the 100+ folks who clicked the Like button attached to her post) to posit that it's the DEMS who are spiting anyone, or holding anyone "hostage at gunpoint", is a level of hypocrisy that takes this divide from "reasonable people can disagree" to "sickening". I'd ask her to defend this position, to show its untenability, but I'm certain it would be more of the "we freedom lovers are superior to those bleeding heart liberals, we can do no wrong and they can do no right", so why bother?"

TEOTWAWKI wrote:

Floridatexan wrote:I liked this comment (Bobby Choquette):

"OMG, that's hilarious...Blah...Whine...Blah...Blah...More Whine...And Cheesy! (NOTE: The red part of this rant was edited for clarification.)

This is just begging for a clarification...rewrite this with less rant and more thought..

Nekochan wrote:These were foreign tourists who planned for months and spent thousands of dollars for this trip.  The way these visitors to our country were treated is an embarrassment for the USA. 

2seaoat wrote:Doublethink is the act of ordinary people simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts.


it is openly being displayed on this thread.

Dreamsglore wrote:President Obama will be glad to negotiate as soon as they open up the govt.  

2seaoat wrote:The answer is simple.  Open government.   Congress expand their work schedule.   Fix our budget.

Instead......like a child who throws his toy to the floor and breaks it and then turns to his parent and blames the parent the Republicans are having an epic tantrum which is harming America.   The polls clearly show that the American people blame the republicans.   I have argued for years that real Republicans are not to be blamed, but the interlopers the Dixiecrats and the paid shills of the Oligarchy have taken over the once noble party of Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Ike.   Fortunately, the polls are pretty accurate.   This problem will be over after 2014, and hopefully real republicans as a result can start winning the primaries from the crazies, but if this forum is any indication......the crazies and dixiecrats will still defeat common sense Republican traditions.

http://news.msn.com/us/poll-republicans-get-the-blame-in-shutdown