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"The Shutdown Standoff Is One of the Worst Crises in American History"

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http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114962/shutdown-standoff-one-worst-crises-american-history

The current government shutdown threatens to stall the already slow economic recovery from the Great Recession. But more is at stake here. Political philosophers from Aristotle to Locke have defined the nation-state as the highest form of political community. Locke, whose views are embedded in America’s Declaration of Independence, saw government as a result of a communal compact—a social contract—among peoples. What is happening in America is that this social contract is being voided, largely through the initiative of rightwing Republicans from the deep South and rural Midwest. America is not likely to become Afghanistan, but it could easily become Italy or Greece or even Weimar Germany.

There is no simple explanation for why this is happening now, but there are precedents in American history for the kind of assault on government that the Republicans are mounting. First, there is the South of John Calhoun, which Sam Tannenhaus wrote about in The New Republic. Calhoun developed the doctrine of nullification—that states, claiming a higher Constitutional authority, could refuse to obey federal laws—in order to justify South Carolina’s opposition to tariffs adopted in 1828 and 1832. Calhoun’s doctrine became the basis of the state’s rights argument against attempts by the federal government to limit the expansion of slavery and a century later to enforce racial desegregation.

Secondly, there is the rise in 1937 of a conservative coalition of conservative Southern Democrats and rural Midwestern Republicans to block and repeal the New Deal through parliamentary maneuvers and investigations, which I wrote about two years ago. Calhounist nullification anticipates the anti-federal tactics of today’s Republican right. The conservative coalition of the late 1930s anticipates the composition of today’s Republican coalition and its grievance: the expansion of the federal safety net. Both of these older movements cited the United States Constitution as their authority for attempting to defy or dismantle the federal government. Like today’s Republican rightists, both older movements claimed to represent tradition and morality against a decadent modernity. They looked backwards. They were reactionary rather than conservative movements.

What happened to these movements gives some indication of what could happen to today’s Republican intransigents. The Calhounists precipitated a civil war, in which over 600,000 Americans died. The conservative coalition, on the other hand, faded temporarily from view and only reemerged in the last decades. That was because in 1941 Americans went to war against Nazi Germany and Japan. World War II unified Americans. In modern wars, the national government has to call upon all its citizens to do their part and to submerge their differences. Business made peace with labor; blacks served alongside whites. And that spirit of national unification lasted for 15 years after the war. It helped to give rise—although not without conflict—to a social compact between business and labor, an end to racial segregation and the preservation and expansion of New Deal programs like social security. If World War II had not intervened, it’s very likely that the conservative coalition would have grown stronger, and would have been able to stop the expansion of, if not undermine, social security.

The current political crisis—and the challenge presented by right-wing Republicanism—can be traced to the unraveling of this consensus. That began in the Sixties and then accelerated after the end of the Cold War. It took its final political form from the realignment of the parties, which, reaching a climax in 1994, brought conservative Democrats in the South into the Republican party. What had earlier been a coalition between Republicans and their conservative Democratic counterparts became a partisan effort entirely within the Republican party, which surfaced with a vengeance after the Republicans took control of Congress in November 1994. The next year, Republicans shut down the government, and in Bill Clinton’s second term, they tried to impeach the president on spurious grounds of sexual misconduct. (These events should be kept in mind before attributing the current fervor of the radical right entirely to the election of a black man as president.)

I wouldn’t expect the current crisis, which was precipitated by the descendants of Calhoun, to result in a civil war. The civil war, as Marx once wrote, was a revolutionary clash that pitted one mode of production against another. Nothing so momentous is at stake today. It also pitted one region against another, and it was fought with rifles and men on horseback. The largest effect is likely to be continued dysfunction in Washington, which if it continues over a decade or so, will threaten economic growth and America’s standing in the world, undermine social programs like the Affordable Care Act, and probably encourage more radical movements on the right and the left. Think of Italy, Greece, or Weimar Germany. Or think about what the United States would have been like if World War II had not occurred, and if Europe, the United States, and Japan had failed to pull themselves out of the Great Depression.

What is the alternative? How can the United States escape this quagmire? There seem to me be two kinds of things that have to happen—one having to do with political movements and the other with structural changes in American politics. Politically, the Republican far right has to be marginalized. That can happen either through ordinary conservative Republicans like Tennessee Senator Bob Corker or California Congressman Devin Nunes bolting the party or by the conservatives and moderates reclaiming control of the party and forcing the far right to create its own party along the lines of the old Dixiecrats or George Wallace’s American Independent Party. In the former case, you would have the emergence of an FDR-strength Democratic majority; in the latter, an Eisenhower era collaboration between the parties.

These kind of changes would have to be sustained by developments within the electorate. Roosevelt’s majority was sustained by the growth of an industrial labor movement. But today’s labor movement has not been able to adjust to post-industrial capitalism. Peter Beinart has argued for the rise of a “new new left” based in the political generations that have come of age in the Obama years. There is something to this, but I’m more inclined to see these voters as part of a movement that has taken place among college-educated workers since the 1960s; They backed the anti-Vietnam war, feminist, civil rights, and environmental movements; they contributed to the rise of public sector unionism; and they have staffed and funded a myriad of interest groups in Washington. But this complex of people and groups lack the organized clout that the labor movement enjoyed. The question for the future is: Can the older workplace-centered movement be fully replaced by the virtual community of Internet, as groups like Move-on have attempted to do?

Equally, if not more important, is the growth of organized business opposition to the radical right. So far, organized business groups have stayed largely on the sidelines. If anything, they have been more inclined to fund Republicans, and some of the very wealthy, often drawn from older extractive industries or fringe financial operations, have backed reactionary groups like the Club for Growth and Americans for Prosperity. To withstand the challenge from the radical right, the mainstream business groups would have to target the Republican right with the same fervor and determination that business groups of the early twentieth century targeted the socialist left. Organizations like the Fix the Debt that attempt to blame both sides equally are useless.

Structurally, much of the power of the radical right depends upon two loopholes in American politics that need to be closed. The first are the campaign finance laws, which allow eccentric billionaires like the Koch Brothers or Peter Thiel to exert inordinate influence over American politics. Restoring the McCain-Feingold limits on independent expenditures would help, but what is really needed is a liberal Supreme Court that could overturn Citizens United and the pernicious 1976 ruling Buckley v. Valeo that threw out the 1974 campaign finance law’s effort to limit total spending on individual campaigns. Getting a liberal Supreme Court would require the Democrats’ retention of the White House in 2016 and perhaps even in 2020, and getting it to overturn these laws would mean years of agitation directed at campaign finance reform. It’s no longer simply a good government issue; it’s about the distribution of power in American society.

The second loophole, for which Democrats and Republicans are equally to blame, are the congressional redistricting rules in states that allow whatever party controls the state government at decennial intervals to create maps that inordinately favor their own party. As the example of California shows, Democrats, who won a majority in the overall House vote in 2012, stand to benefit by non-partisan redistricting. Democrats need to make that happen, as well as repeal the new racist restrictions on voting rights cropping up in state politics. Much of the radical right, particularly in states like Texas, owe their seats to gerrymandered districts. This is a good government issue that could attract support from people who are not ready to blame the Republicans for the mess in Washington.

None of these changes will be easy to achieve. But the current shutdown—with a battle over the debt ceiling looming—should serve as an object lesson to many Americans, including the CEOs of the Business Roundtable and the Financial Services Roundtable, of the price that the country will pay for allowing the radical right to run wild in Washington.


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In the long run... it's inconsequential. Even the near million nonessential govt employees will be paid... as usual.

Obamacare will have much further reach and repercussions.

Floridatexan

Floridatexan


Just talked to my daughter last night. She can't access the Bureau of Land Management, which is hampering her ability to do her job.

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

The "shutdown" is not in the major leagues. More like whatever the league the Wahoos are in.
The major leagues is a whole different ball game. would be like when they took a few thousand in bribes to throw the world series (although Shoeless Joe was crucified for it as an innocent man)
But anyway where was I. Oh yeah I remember.

I was gonna say the major leagues of this bad stuff would be the 49,000 of us who died on the field at Gettysburg. And that's 49,000 in three days. In one battle. And all because of a divided country.
The shutdown? Nah we aint even had any eyes poked out yet. lol

Hospital Bob

Hospital Bob

I will say though that I fully believe there's some major cussing going on behind the cameras.  Probably would even make Nixon blush.  lol

I just hope we find out they have secret tapes running like Nixon and we get to hear it on CNN.  lol

Markle

Markle

boards of FL wrote:http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114962/shutdown-standoff-one-worst-crises-american-history

The current government shutdown threatens to stall the already slow economic recovery from the Great Recession. But more is at stake here.
None of these changes will be easy to achieve. But the current shutdown—with a battle over the debt ceiling looming—should serve as an object lesson to many Americans, including the CEOs of the Business Roundtable and the Financial Services Roundtable, of the price that the country will pay for allowing the radical right to run wild in Washington.
Again, a lot of word salad meaning nothing from a far, far left Progressive site.

A shutdown is common and has happened many times. The difference is with the last one, President William Jefferson Clinton stayed in Washington and sat down with Republican Leaders to hammer out an agreement.

This president does the only thing he knows...he hits the Campaign Trail and has kept his golf course open. What a "great American leader"....

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ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

All this clown has to do is allow an up or down vote in the House for a clean FY-14 appropriations bill and the showdown will be over.

"The Shutdown Standoff Is One of the Worst Crises in American History" JOHN-BOEHNER-clown03

There are enough moderate Republicans in the House to overcome the terrorism of the GOP Teahadist faction.

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ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan

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knothead

knothead

It seems to be escalating in a manner no one hoped for as just minutes ago shots are fired around the US Capital building and I do hope that this is unrelated to our dysfunctional government, if so, it would qualify as one of the worst crises in American history. Multiple shots fired . . . .

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

knothead wrote:It seems to be escalating in a manner no one hoped for as just minutes ago shots are fired around the US Capital building and I do hope that this is unrelated to our dysfunctional government, if so, it would qualify as one of the worst crises in American history.  Multiple shots fired . . . .
Probably some nut all fired up over the anti-Obamacare rhetoric.....

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TEOTWAWKI

TEOTWAWKI

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knothead

knothead

TEOTWAWKI wrote:"The Shutdown Standoff Is One of the Worst Crises in American History" 9436b210


C'mon Teo, that's pure unadulterated horse shit and you know it. . . . .

gulfbeachbandit

gulfbeachbandit

I like the shutdown. Enjoying the time off from my jay-oh-bee and you know that the gubment is going to pay me back for the "time off".
God bless America.

Yella

Yella

Bob wrote:I will say though that I fully believe there's some major cussing going on behind the cameras.  Probably would even make Nixon blush.  lol

I just hope we find out they have secret tapes running like Nixon and we get to hear it on CNN.  lol
The combined power of all Corporations that comprise the combined facets of the American Healthcare system is beyond anything the average folks can imagine. The CEOS of these companies do NOT want the Affordable Care Act. It will eat into the astronomical profits they all presently enjoy. They will do anything to prevent it.

Shes's doingwell while Americans suffer.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130411/NEWS03/130419970/blue-cross-parent-ceos-compensation-rockets-past-16-million

http://warpedinblue,blogspot.com/

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:
Just talked to my daughter last night.  She can't access the Bureau of Land Management, which is hampering her ability to do her job.  
Tell her to write a letter to President Barack Hussein Obama telling him to quit the campaign and start negotiating. He doesn't know how, no one at ACORN ever talked back to him.

ZVUGKTUBM

ZVUGKTUBM

Markle wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Just talked to my daughter last night.  She can't access the Bureau of Land Management, which is hampering her ability to do her job.  
Tell her to write a letter to President Barack Hussein Obama telling him to quit the campaign and start negotiating.  He doesn't know how, no one at ACORN ever talked back to him.
There is nothing to negotiate. Moderate Republicans have indicated they will vote to fund the government without the terrorist Teahadist attachments to the ACA. All Speaker Boehner has to do is to allow the vote. He won't because he is affraid to buck the House GOP Tea Party rebels. Sad that the 40 or so Teahadists are going to cost Republican seats in November of 2014. Don't complain if Obama winds up with a majority in both houses of Congress during his last two years.

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Floridatexan

Floridatexan

Markle wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Just talked to my daughter last night.  She can't access the Bureau of Land Management, which is hampering her ability to do her job.  
Tell her to write a letter to President Barack Hussein Obama telling him to quit the campaign and start negotiating.  He doesn't know how, no one at ACORN ever talked back to him.
It's YOUR PARTY and YOUR REPRESENTATIVES who have caused this...deflect all you want; everyone knows the truth...

Jake92



It's NOT the party that's to blame for anything. It's the PEOPLE that were elected to do the job that are refusing to do anything other than blame the other party for all of the problems.. Let the dems get the house, senate, and president in 20154 and the PROOF will come out what party is totally destroying the country...

Sal

Sal

The Republican party forced the government shutdown because they are intent on denying people affordable health coverage because it isn't in the interest of their corporatist benefactors.

It's that simple.

Now, a faction of them would like to see the country default on its obligations.

They are economic terrorists.

Markle

Markle

knothead wrote:It seems to be escalating in a manner no one hoped for as just minutes ago shots are fired around the US Capital building and I do hope that this is unrelated to our dysfunctional government, if so, it would qualify as one of the worst crises in American history.  Multiple shots fired . . . .
You do live in a parallel universe don't you?

Markle

Markle

Floridatexan wrote:
Markle wrote:
Floridatexan wrote:
Just talked to my daughter last night.  She can't access the Bureau of Land Management, which is hampering her ability to do her job.  
Tell her to write a letter to President Barack Hussein Obama telling him to quit the campaign and start negotiating.  He doesn't know how, no one at ACORN ever talked back to him.
It's YOUR PARTY and YOUR REPRESENTATIVES who have caused this...deflect all you want; everyone knows the truth...
As you well know, it is President Barack Hussein Obama and Harry Reid who has said the will NOT negotiate, not the Republicans.

Try facing FACTS.

Jake92



A party is NOT a living thing, just like a gun is not a living thing. It's the PEOPLE that need to change.. The easiest way to change them is to vote them ALL out no matter what party they are in...

Markle

Markle

Sal wrote:The Republican party forced the government shutdown because they are intent on denying people affordable health coverage because it isn't in the interest of their corporatist benefactors.

It's that simple.

Now, a faction of them would like to see the country default on its obligations.

They are economic terrorists.
Another FACT you are missing, prices are turning out to be much, much higher than you were promised, just as Conservatives told you they would be. Is that ANOTHER fact you chose to ignore?

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