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What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 2:12 am
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 5:59 am
Wordslinger wrote:They've offended women, old people, people without healthcare insurance, the homeless, latinos, black Americans and college students.
If only Mr. Cruz was their presidential candidate, it would be like a hole in one.
Reality!
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 12:18 pmHow can you blame Obama for not wanting to "negotiate" with the illogical, unethical, irrational and whining crowd of Tea Party led unwashed hoards? LOLMarkle wrote:Wordslinger wrote:They've offended women, old people, people without healthcare insurance, the homeless, latinos, black Americans and college students.
If only Mr. Cruz was their presidential candidate, it would be like a hole in one.
Reality!
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 12:24 pm Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 1:07 pm
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 1:15 pm Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 9:21 pmI have nothing against anyone who suspects that Obamacare is a failure. But dealing with the tea party who is leading today's Washington debacle, is like talking over the phone to a kidnapper who has your child and is threatening to shoot him in the head unless you give them everything they want -- and if they do kill the kid, it will be YOUR fault.PkrBum wrote:What exactly do you want? For the govt to continue unchecked? To grow with each election? The debt to double again?
I've never even met a member of that evil tea party... have you? All I see is an opportunity at demagoguery.
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 9:37 pm
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 9:37 pmno it doesn't.Wordslinger wrote:I have nothing against anyone who suspects that Obamacare is a failure. But dealing with the tea party who is leading today's Washington debacle, is like talking over the phone to a kidnapper who has your child and is threatening to shoot him in the head unless you give them everything they want -- and if they do kill the kid, it will be YOUR fault.PkrBum wrote:What exactly do you want? For the govt to continue unchecked? To grow with each election? The debt to double again?
I've never even met a member of that evil tea party... have you? All I see is an opportunity at demagoguery.
C'mon get real. Obamacare beats hell out of what we had before it -- six million or more Americans will now have health coverage. You don't like the idea, fine. Build a concensus and vote it out . . but don't put thousands of workers out of work and screw the economy because you didn't get your way. You want to play gangster? Then be prepared to pay the penalty! The republicans are about to reap the whirlwind for letting Cruz and his minions drag them by the ring in their noses! Reality.
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 9:38 pmLOLTEOTWAWKI wrote:Actually this Obamacare will destroy the clinics and many many Doctors are retiring. So the overall effect is yes more will have coverage and we will all pay more and get far less in medical care...so I don't use doctors any way so I could give a flying flip.....Liberals will be dying in the parking lot getting knifed by illegals ....
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 11:11 pm Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 11:24 pm Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 9/30/2013, 11:26 pm Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 10/1/2013, 7:07 amHere's your answer: When the government is owned or controlled by corporations you have fascism.TEOTWAWKI wrote:Slinger we have to first identify what kind of country we are. If we were a true capitalism like India you would either work and have money or sell your organs or starve to death and get tossed in the Ganges. If we are a compassionate Capitalism then we have charity organizations supplied by donations that provide for the poor but it is all voluntary. If we are a Socialism then it brings in a third party the government to take our money by taxation and distribute it for us and of course this stops a lot of the compassionate capitalism. Now if it was Communism, which it looks more and more like what we got now . The Party members would get adequate medical care and the peasants would get what's left spread around and that would be not so great....so what kind of economic system we got ?
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 10/1/2013, 8:02 am Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 10/1/2013, 8:03 am Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 10/1/2013, 8:09 ampkr, I notice they keep avoiding your question. Its because its too accurate and to the point and really puts the situation in prospective and they don't like that.PkrBum wrote:Well... I'll ask you since seagoat has a parallel thread and avoided the question.
Corporate/employer mandate delay? Ok
Private citizen individual mandate delay? No
Govt employees and family put in obamacare exchange? No
Corporations to put employees in obamacare exchanges? Ok
Unions and countless groups and corporations given waivers and exemptions? Ok
These are your positions and you agree with these decisions from the left... correct?
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 10/1/2013, 8:15 am
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 10/1/2013, 8:28 amand you've been explained to a zillion times too why healthcare cost is out of control, its because of gov intervention.Bob wrote:With or without obamacare, the costs of health care are out of control.
Nothing meaningful is being done to control those costs. Just a fake wrastlin match with fanboys on each side of the wrastlin ring screaming and yelling at each other.
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 10/2/2013, 1:23 am Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 10/2/2013, 3:45 amThe cost of health care is out of control because of government mandates and government regulations.Bob wrote:With or without obamacare, the costs of health care are out of control.
Nothing meaningful is being done to control those costs. Just a fake wrastlin match with fanboys on each side of the wrastlin ring screaming and yelling at each other.
Re: What else can the republicans do to commit political suicide? 10/2/2013, 3:56 amWhat other combination of countries have invented more new drugs, new procedures and technology than the United States? What drug company, would invest BILLIONS of dollars in new drugs, many of which fail, if there is no profit at the end? After all those procedures, drugs and technology are on the market, do they, or do they not save lives and improve lives of people around the world?Wordslinger wrote: Healthcare costs are out of control because drug manufacturers, medical equipment manufacturers and suppliers and insurers believe they have a right to make profits from people being ill.
Drug costs would be dramatically reduced if true competition in the marketplace was allowed.
Ultimately, the reason healthcare costs are so high is because they make some people tons of profits.
Screw Amerika Inc!!
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