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1The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty The Nakedness of Their Greed on 7/28/2012, 6:58 pm

Floridatexan

Floridatexan
http://www.nationofchange.org/nakedness-their-greed-1343482113

“The GOP bill would actually increase the average tax bill for 25 million households who earn less than $250,000.”

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"In Plain Sight

Yesterday the Senate voted on a Democratic proposal to extend the Bush-era tax breaks for all income below $250,000 per year. Everybody would get that tax break, even billionaires. Taxes would go up for anything earned above that amount, and for some kinds of investment income. The bill would also preserve a number of tax breaks for middle class and lower-income working people.

Forty-eight Senators voted against the Democratic bill. Forty-four of them then promptly voted for the Republican proposal, which would keep the Bush tax cut for earnings above $250,000 - a cut which provides greater and greater tax breaks as you climb the earnings scale toward "millionaire" status and eventually ascend to the rarefied atmosphere of the billionaires' club.

They didn't even try to hide what they were doing. They didn't bury it in loopholes, or under pages of indecipherable legal language. They just ... put it all out there..."

2The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty Re: The Nakedness of Their Greed on 7/31/2012, 10:41 pm

Guest


Guest
Floridatexan wrote:http://www.nationofchange.org/nakedness-their-greed-1343482113

“The GOP bill would actually increase the average tax bill for 25 million households who earn less than $250,000.”

---------------

"In Plain Sight

Yesterday the Senate voted on a Democratic proposal to extend the Bush-era tax breaks for all income below $250,000 per year. Everybody would get that tax break, even billionaires. Taxes would go up for anything earned above that amount, and for some kinds of investment income. The bill would also preserve a number of tax breaks for middle class and lower-income working people.

Forty-eight Senators voted against the Democratic bill. Forty-four of them then promptly voted for the Republican proposal, which would keep the Bush tax cut for earnings above $250,000 - a cut which provides greater and greater tax breaks as you climb the earnings scale toward "millionaire" status and eventually ascend to the rarefied atmosphere of the billionaires' club.

They didn't even try to hide what they were doing. They didn't bury it in loopholes, or under pages of indecipherable legal language. They just ... put it all out there..."

That doesn't surprise me. When are people going to learn the repugs are not for the people.

3The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty Re: The Nakedness of Their Greed on 7/31/2012, 11:59 pm

NaNook

NaNook
Would the 47-48% of people who DON'T pay income taxes get a break?

Do you both know the bottom of income earners pay a -6.8% of taxes??????

Are you asking how one can pay -6.8% ???????

If so....public education at work again.......

4The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty Re: The Nakedness of Their Greed on 8/1/2012, 10:47 am

Floridatexan

Floridatexan
NaNook wrote:Would the 47-48% of people who DON'T pay income taxes get a break?

Do you both know the bottom of income earners pay a -6.8% of taxes??????

Are you asking how one can pay -6.8% ???????

If so....public education at work again.......

Everyone pays taxes.

5The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty Re: The Nakedness of Their Greed on 8/1/2012, 12:24 pm

Sal

Sal
NaNook wrote:Would the 47-48% of people who DON'T pay income taxes get a break?

Do you both know the bottom of income earners pay a -6.8% of taxes??????

Are you asking how one can pay -6.8% ???????

If so....public education at work again.......

Dubya came into office and immediately gave everyone who pays income taxes a tax break. For some people on the lower end of the pay-scale, this amounted to a few hundred extra bucks a year. For people on the high end of the pay-scale, however, this amounted to few extra hundred thousand bucks a year, or even millions of extra bucks a year for the very top earners. We quickly ate through what had been a large projected surplus in revenues and began to go trillions of dollars into debt. Then Bush sent our troops off to fight a war of choice in Iraq that turned into an expensive quagmire. For the first time in our history, no one was asked to pay for this war, nor the one in Afghanistan.

Now they've submitted a tax plan that raises taxes on ten times as many people as receive cuts. Middle class folks will see cuts in the Child Tax Credit, the Earned Income Tax Credit, and the American Opportunity Tax Credit that helps them pay for their children's higher education, but rich people will see their Bush tax cuts extended. In other words, they want the middle class to retroactively pay for the Bush wars (with interest). Then they are going to ask you to work longer to receive less from Social Security and Medicare. Why? Because they want the middle class to pay for the huge hole Bush's handouts to the rich blew in the country's budget.

The other catalyst for our economic meltdown was the lack of regulation and oversight of Wall Street. Once again, a gift to rich people, the smartest of which developed schemes to game the housing market and make a fortune for themselves, while the rest of us were left with properties that were worth less than we borrowed to move into them. They took away our money and then they took away our jobs and then they took away our freedom to move to find a new job.

And then they convinced the SCOTUS to allow their plutocrat overlords to contribute any amount, even into the billions, to corrupt and influence our politicians and misinform us about the real deal that has been going down in this country.

And, here comes Nanook right on cue to blame all our woes on the poorz. Public education, indeed.

6The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty Re: The Nakedness of Their Greed on 8/1/2012, 12:38 pm

boards of FL

boards of FL
salinsky wrote:
NaNook wrote:Would the 47-48% of people who DON'T pay income taxes get a break?

Do you both know the bottom of income earners pay a -6.8% of taxes??????

Are you asking how one can pay -6.8% ???????

If so....public education at work again.......

Dubya came into office and immediately gave everyone who pays income taxes a tax break. For some people on the lower end of the pay-scale, this amounted to a few hundred extra bucks a year. For people on the high end of the pay-scale, however, this amounted to few extra hundred thousand bucks a year, or even millions of extra bucks a year for the very top earners. We quickly ate through what had been a large projected surplus in revenues and began to go trillions of dollars into debt. Then Bush sent our troops off to fight a war of choice in Iraq that turned into an expensive quagmire. For the first time in our history, no one was asked to pay for this war, nor the one in Afghanistan.

Now they've submitted a tax plan that raises taxes on ten times as many people as receive cuts. Middle class folks will see cuts in the Child Tax Credit, the Earned Income Tax Credit, and the American Opportunity Tax Credit that helps them pay for their children's higher education, but rich people will see their Bush tax cuts extended. In other words, they want the middle class to retroactively pay for the Bush wars (with interest). Then they are going to ask you to work longer to receive less from Social Security and Medicare. Why? Because they want the middle class to pay for the huge hole Bush's handouts to the rich blew in the country's budget.

The other catalyst for our economic meltdown was the lack of regulation and oversight of Wall Street. Once again, a gift to rich people, the smartest of which developed schemes to game the housing market and make a fortune for themselves, while the rest of us were left with properties that were worth less than we borrowed to move into them. They took away our money and then they took away our jobs and then they took away our freedom to move to find a new job.

And then they convinced the SCOTUS to allow their plutocrat overlords to contribute any amount, even into the billions, to corrupt and influence our politicians and misinform us about the real deal that has been going down in this country.

And, here comes Nanook right on cue to blame all our woes on the poorz. Public education, indeed.

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7The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty Re: The Nakedness of Their Greed on 8/1/2012, 2:10 pm

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I think he might be right about the uneducated, if not how did shrub get elected twice and how is it that a 1%er like romney is even in the race?
There's a hell of a lot of uneducated and clueless people out there.
It's like turkeys voting for another Thanksgiving..

8The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty Re: The Nakedness of Their Greed on 8/3/2012, 1:45 am

Markle

Markle
Lurch wrote:I think he might be right about the uneducated, if not how did shrub get elected twice and how is it that a 1%er like romney is even in the race?
There's a hell of a lot of uneducated and clueless people out there.
It's like turkeys voting for another Thanksgiving..

Hey, take it easy, you're talking about the vast majority of the Barack Hussein Obama voter base.



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9The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty Re: The Nakedness of Their Greed on 8/3/2012, 9:01 am

Floridatexan

Floridatexan
Lurch wrote:I think he might be right about the uneducated, if not how did shrub get elected twice and how is it that a 1%er like romney is even in the race?
There's a hell of a lot of uneducated and clueless people out there.
It's like turkeys voting for another Thanksgiving..

There's a reason for that. I just read a book called IDIOT AMERICA, which I think defines the problem fairly well. TV and popular culture contribute to what I will call the PT Barnum effect. The presidency of George W Bush was a catalyst in that he: glorified religion (although I sincerely doubt he has any); demonized science and real expertise in favor of getting a "gut" response from the public, aided and abetted by the FOX NEWS crowd and the right-wing radio talk show hosts. In other words, don't think about the issues...just "feel" them. Never mind if the outrage you feel is based on yet another series of lies or some convenient, electorally-timed fearmongering (Orange Alert, anyone?)

We're supposed to be set apart from the rest of the animal kingdom by our BRAINS, folks. Instead, some of us prefer to wrap ourselves in our bibles, guns and flags. It's so much easier than thinking, and it leaves time to watch sports and drink imported Bud.

10The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty Re: The Nakedness of Their Greed on 8/3/2012, 5:03 pm

NaNook

NaNook
salinsky wrote:
NaNook wrote:Would the 47-48% of people who DON'T pay income taxes get a break?

Do you both know the bottom of income earners pay a -6.8% of taxes??????

Are you asking how one can pay -6.8% ???????

If so....public education at work again.......

Dubya came into office and immediately gave everyone who pays income taxes a tax break. For some people on the lower end of the pay-scale, this amounted to a few hundred extra bucks a year. For people on the high end of the pay-scale, however, this amounted to few extra hundred thousand bucks a year, or even millions of extra bucks a year for the very top earners. We quickly ate through what had been a large projected surplus in revenues and began to go trillions of dollars into debt. Then Bush sent our troops off to fight a war of choice in Iraq that turned into an expensive quagmire. For the first time in our history, no one was asked to pay for this war, nor the one in Afghanistan.

Now they've submitted a tax plan that raises taxes on ten times as many people as receive cuts. Middle class folks will see cuts in the Child Tax Credit, the Earned Income Tax Credit, and the American Opportunity Tax Credit that helps them pay for their children's higher education, but rich people will see their Bush tax cuts extended. In other words, they want the middle class to retroactively pay for the Bush wars (with interest). Then they are going to ask you to work longer to receive less from Social Security and Medicare. Why? Because they want the middle class to pay for the huge hole Bush's handouts to the rich blew in the country's budget.

The other catalyst for our economic meltdown was the lack of regulation and oversight of Wall Street. Once again, a gift to rich people, the smartest of which developed schemes to game the housing market and make a fortune for themselves, while the rest of us were left with properties that were worth less than we borrowed to move into them. They took away our money and then they took away our jobs and then they took away our freedom to move to find a new job.

And then they convinced the SCOTUS to allow their plutocrat overlords to contribute any amount, even into the billions, to corrupt and influence our politicians and misinform us about the real deal that has been going down in this country.

And, here comes Nanook right on cue to blame all our woes on the poorz. Public education, indeed.

I guess you missed the 2000 CLINTON INTERNET BUBBLE? Check NASDAQ? Only a 50% loss of equity...get it...50%!!!!! Bill Clinton....get it...did BUSH cry amd blame? Did Bush cry and blame??????

8 months later....9/11, the Markets closed for a week, panic in the streets. Did Bush cry and blame? Did Bush cry and Blame?

BTW; What was the Nasdaq Close today? What was the Nasdaq high/low in 2000? So you see.....maybe not,,,,been following Fannie Mae lately? Obama is going to try and screw investors again. Not going to happen this time....

Want to talk GM and their 100% increase in sub-prime auto loans this last quarter? They were writing off 5.5% of their loans, going for 10% I guess? Who really pays, the credit worthy. How is our GM stock doing? Is it up to $20? Only $33 more a share to just break even on 500,000,000 shares. Don't forget the 10 year tax break on earnings, no taxes for 10 years. Maybe Harry Reid mixed up GM and Romney?

Remember, G.W.Bush walked into a recession. He didn't cry about it, he tried to solve it. He certainly didn't blame Clinton for the 50% loss on the NASDAQ. You know, retirement funds, IRAs, pension funds........

It's all real history.......

11The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty Re: The Nakedness of Their Greed on 8/4/2012, 3:21 pm

NaNook

NaNook
NaNook wrote:
salinsky wrote:
NaNook wrote:Would the 47-48% of people who DON'T pay income taxes get a break?

Do you both know the bottom of income earners pay a -6.8% of taxes??????

Are you asking how one can pay -6.8% ???????

If so....public education at work again.......

Dubya came into office and immediately gave everyone who pays income taxes a tax break. For some people on the lower end of the pay-scale, this amounted to a few hundred extra bucks a year. For people on the high end of the pay-scale, however, this amounted to few extra hundred thousand bucks a year, or even millions of extra bucks a year for the very top earners. We quickly ate through what had been a large projected surplus in revenues and began to go trillions of dollars into debt. Then Bush sent our troops off to fight a war of choice in Iraq that turned into an expensive quagmire. For the first time in our history, no one was asked to pay for this war, nor the one in Afghanistan.

Now they've submitted a tax plan that raises taxes on ten times as many people as receive cuts. Middle class folks will see cuts in the Child Tax Credit, the Earned Income Tax Credit, and the American Opportunity Tax Credit that helps them pay for their children's higher education, but rich people will see their Bush tax cuts extended. In other words, they want the middle class to retroactively pay for the Bush wars (with interest). Then they are going to ask you to work longer to receive less from Social Security and Medicare. Why? Because they want the middle class to pay for the huge hole Bush's handouts to the rich blew in the country's budget.

The other catalyst for our economic meltdown was the lack of regulation and oversight of Wall Street. Once again, a gift to rich people, the smartest of which developed schemes to game the housing market and make a fortune for themselves, while the rest of us were left with properties that were worth less than we borrowed to move into them. They took away our money and then they took away our jobs and then they took away our freedom to move to find a new job.

And then they convinced the SCOTUS to allow their plutocrat overlords to contribute any amount, even into the billions, to corrupt and influence our politicians and misinform us about the real deal that has been going down in this country.

And, here comes Nanook right on cue to blame all our woes on the poorz. Public education, indeed.

I guess you missed the 2000 CLINTON INTERNET BUBBLE? Check NASDAQ? Only a 50% loss of equity...get it...50%!!!!! Bill Clinton....get it...did BUSH cry amd blame? Did Bush cry and blame??????

8 months later....9/11, the Markets closed for a week, panic in the streets. Did Bush cry and blame? Did Bush cry and Blame?

BTW; What was the Nasdaq Close today? What was the Nasdaq high/low in 2000? So you see.....maybe not,,,,been following Fannie Mae lately? Obama is going to try and screw investors again. Not going to happen this time....

Want to talk GM and their 100% increase in sub-prime auto loans this last quarter? They were writing off 5.5% of their loans, going for 10% I guess? Who really pays, the credit worthy. How is our GM stock doing? Is it up to $20? Only $33 more a share to just break even on 500,000,000 shares. Don't forget the 10 year tax break on earnings, no taxes for 10 years. Maybe Harry Reid mixed up GM and Romney?

Remember, G.W.Bush walked into a recession. He didn't cry about it, he tried to solve it. He certainly didn't blame Clinton for the 50% loss on the NASDAQ. You know, retirement funds, IRAs, pension funds........

It's all real history.......

I'm waiting.....for a response....anyone?

12The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty Re: The Nakedness of Their Greed on 8/4/2012, 3:35 pm

Guest


Guest
Floridatexan wrote:
NaNook wrote:Would the 47-48% of people who DON'T pay income taxes get a break?

Do you both know the bottom of income earners pay a -6.8% of taxes??????

Are you asking how one can pay -6.8% ???????

If so....public education at work again.......

Everyone pays taxes.

If you are speaking of FITW then you are wrong as wrong can be. There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands that get more back than they paid in, so how is it that everyone pays taxes, unless you are talking about sales tax and such. But the ones that are getting back more than they paid in certainly do not.

13The Nakedness of Their Greed Empty Re: The Nakedness of Their Greed on 8/4/2012, 6:22 pm

no stress

no stress
That is the pat reply from the libs when you say that 47% do not pay INCOME TAXES. They come back with "No, everyone pays TAXES" and they are correct of course, everyone does pay taxes (sales tax, fuel tax etc) but everyone doesnt pay income taxes. Typical and expected BS.

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