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More waste in the F-35B program

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Since the overpriced and underdeveloped F-35B delivery has slipped at least another two years the Marines are now forced to upgrade existing AV-8B Harriers to increase their life expectancy. Of course the Marines also spent $180 Million to buy all of Britain’s Harriers and spare parts inventory. The whole F-35 boondoggle should have been cancelled years ago with the F-15 and F-18 upgraded instead. The A/F could also buy another 100 proven F-22’s and still save money over their version of the F-35.

The DoD procurement system is a bottomless money pit that politicians use to buy votes.

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The Marines have already declared IOC with the F-35B at Yuma, AZ. The funny thing is, the first squadron replaced F-18Ds, and not AV-8Bs. I think they are planning on keeping the Harrier II around for awhile; especially after buying the used British Harriers--they are supposedly only using those aircraft for spare parts and will not fly any of them.

The aircraft I am following closely is the X-47B. The thing is awesome, and should make its first arrrested landings aboard ship within a couple of months. I have read they are looking seriously at adapting the autonomous landing technology in the X-47B to other fleet aircraft so the Navy doesn't have to train pilots and waste flight-hours, fuel, and aircraft wear & tear training pilots to land on the boat. A crazy concept, but an awesome one.

I hope the UCAS system that follows the X-47B is a better procurement than the F-35 has been.

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ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Marines have already declared IOC with the F-35B at Yuma, AZ. The funny thing is, the first squadron replaced F-18Ds, and not AV-8Bs. I think they are planning on keeping the Harrier II around for awhile; especially after buying the used British Harriers--they are supposedly only using those aircraft for spare parts and will not fly any of them.

The aircraft I am following closely is the X-47B. The thing is awesome, and should make its first arrrested landings aboard ship within a couple of months. I have read they are looking seriously at adapting the autonomous landing technology in the X-47B to other fleet aircraft so the Navy doesn't have to train pilots and waste flight-hours, fuel, and aircraft wear & tear training pilots to land on the boat. A crazy concept, but an awesome one.

I hope the UCAS system that follows the X-47B is a better procurement than the F-35 has been.

It seems the MARCORP has some goal dates for IOC but no aircraft, logistics, trained personnel (including Pilots) for a squadron to be IOC now. There are still ancillary issues with the "smart helmet" and other little "minor" items that is eating the budget alive. This is the latest I read on it:

"Marine Corps F-35B IOC shall be declared when the first operational squadron is equipped with 10-16 aircraft, and US Marines are trained, manned, and equipped to conduct CAS, Offensive and Defensive Counter Air, Air Interdiction, Assault Support Escort, and Armed Reconnaissance in concert with Marine Air Ground Task Force resources and capabilities. Based on the current F-35 JPO schedule, the F-35B will reach the IOC milestone between July 2015 (Objective) and December 2015 (Threshold). Should capability delivery experience changes or delays, this estimate will be revised appropriately."

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nochain wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Marines have already declared IOC with the F-35B at Yuma, AZ. The funny thing is, the first squadron replaced F-18Ds, and not AV-8Bs. I think they are planning on keeping the Harrier II around for awhile; especially after buying the used British Harriers--they are supposedly only using those aircraft for spare parts and will not fly any of them.

The aircraft I am following closely is the X-47B. The thing is awesome, and should make its first arrrested landings aboard ship within a couple of months. I have read they are looking seriously at adapting the autonomous landing technology in the X-47B to other fleet aircraft so the Navy doesn't have to train pilots and waste flight-hours, fuel, and aircraft wear & tear training pilots to land on the boat. A crazy concept, but an awesome one.

I hope the UCAS system that follows the X-47B is a better procurement than the F-35 has been.

It seems the MARCORP has some goal dates for IOC but no aircraft, logistics, trained personnel (including Pilots) for a squadron to be IOC now. There are still ancillary issues with the "smart helmet" and other little "minor" items that is eating the budget alive. This is the latest I read on it:

"Marine Corps F-35B IOC shall be declared when the first operational squadron is equipped with 10-16 aircraft, and US Marines are trained, manned, and equipped to conduct CAS, Offensive and Defensive Counter Air, Air Interdiction, Assault Support Escort, and Armed Reconnaissance in concert with Marine Air Ground Task Force resources and capabilities. Based on the current F-35 JPO schedule, the F-35B will reach the IOC milestone between July 2015 (Objective) and December 2015 (Threshold). Should capability delivery experience changes or delays, this estimate will be revised appropriately."

I know they "declared" it, but that was likely more political than anything else.

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ZVUGKTUBM wrote:
nochain wrote:
ZVUGKTUBM wrote:The Marines have already declared IOC with the F-35B at Yuma, AZ. The funny thing is, the first squadron replaced F-18Ds, and not AV-8Bs. I think they are planning on keeping the Harrier II around for awhile; especially after buying the used British Harriers--they are supposedly only using those aircraft for spare parts and will not fly any of them.

The aircraft I am following closely is the X-47B. The thing is awesome, and should make its first arrrested landings aboard ship within a couple of months. I have read they are looking seriously at adapting the autonomous landing technology in the X-47B to other fleet aircraft so the Navy doesn't have to train pilots and waste flight-hours, fuel, and aircraft wear & tear training pilots to land on the boat. A crazy concept, but an awesome one.

I hope the UCAS system that follows the X-47B is a better procurement than the F-35 has been.

It seems the MARCORP has some goal dates for IOC but no aircraft, logistics, trained personnel (including Pilots) for a squadron to be IOC now. There are still ancillary issues with the "smart helmet" and other little "minor" items that is eating the budget alive. This is the latest I read on it:

"Marine Corps F-35B IOC shall be declared when the first operational squadron is equipped with 10-16 aircraft, and US Marines are trained, manned, and equipped to conduct CAS, Offensive and Defensive Counter Air, Air Interdiction, Assault Support Escort, and Armed Reconnaissance in concert with Marine Air Ground Task Force resources and capabilities. Based on the current F-35 JPO schedule, the F-35B will reach the IOC milestone between July 2015 (Objective) and December 2015 (Threshold). Should capability delivery experience changes or delays, this estimate will be revised appropriately."

I know they "declared" it, but that was likely more political than anything else.

Imagine the savings or stopping more wasted spending on this project...Imagine buying a product and it's not up to the standards that was agreed upon and YOU have to pay for those changes...Is that really smart business?....

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I've been out of the loop for sometime, but my recollection is that the F-22 was a proven 'next-generation' fighter that would give us an edge over very good Russian, and up-and-coming Chinese fighters. This "one size fits all" attempt to modify the F-35 for varying and differing missions was supposed to be more cost effective.

It sure seems that the D.C. accountants interfered once again and created a mess, where there didn't have to be one.

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