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1Nailed it. Empty Nailed it. 11/3/2022, 2:05 pm


Truth all the way down, straight, uncut, and with the bark on.

Only problem is, the people who need to hear it aren't gonna listen. Cultists never do. They're just going to hunker down and get defensive and try to "what about" and "LOL" their way out... like always.

This is a wake-up call for Republicans. America elected Joe Biden by over 7 Million votes. And you’re confused because you didn’t see us flock to his rallies and cheer his smackdown like we were at a pro wrestling event during a global pandemic.

We don't wear matching hats, or have “No More Malarky” flags waving from the backs of our trucks. You know why?

Because Biden is not our tribal warlord. We believe the job of a US President is to represent more than one interest group. That’s why 81 million of us turned out to stop a narcissistic personality cult that embodies all seven of the deadly sins, most of all pride. Which you’ve taken to level of blasphemy, claiming your political leaders are handpicked by Jesus Christ.

This country is called the “United States” and we have multiple converging crisis that need adult supervision. But we are being distracted trying to get control over a critical mass of you who no longer believe in reality. Who’ve been hypnotized to fear a Joe Biden Presidency whenever you hear the trigger words “Radical Socialist.” Never mind that Biden is backed by America’s billionaires who’s existence depends on corporate capitalism.

Your cognitive dissonance is staggering, but understandable because the most sophisticated mass media tools ever created have eviscerated your powers of discernment. And there’s a gold rush on slinging alternative facts making millions for opportunists who have taken you for quite a ride. But you need to wake up now and start the deprogramming.

The election was not stolen. All that proof you kept sharing about suitcases and duffle bags of discarded ballots — it's all been debunked. All the affidavits claiming widespread fraud have been thrown out. Over 60 lawsuits contesting the election in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin — Republican states — many of the cases overseen by Republican and Trump-appointed judges, 61 cases were tossed, out. Trump’s hack attorneys are being sued or are under threat of disbarment. That’s consistent with the many criminal prosecutions of many Trump associates.

But the PR stunt worked on tens of millions of Americans primed for mass hysteria. You succumbed to Salem Witch Trial levels of mental lapse, believing our elections were stolen based on spectral evidence. Dreams about Krakens, which are make believe.

It’s time to wake up now.

Black Lives Matter is not a terrorist organization any more than Martin Luther King Jr. was a terrorist. Or Gandhi. Or Nelson Mandela. Peaceful protests and strikes and boycotts. That’s how society creates change without violence. Everyone reasonable knows that violence and looting and murder are wrong and counter-productive to a peaceful society. That's why everybody reasonable condemns militarized cops executing citizens over cigarettes, cell phones, driving, jogging, walking, sleeping. Resisting execution. That’s what Black Lives Matter has been protesting. This isn’t a partisan issue. It’s the largest civil rights movement in the history of the nation.

You need to wake up now.

If you join Black Lives Matter then all lives will matter. If it helps you understand it better, shut your eyes, say to yourself “My life matters, and black lives matter.” If we unite there’s hope we can end the savage practice of imprisoning millions of people for the crime of being black, or brown, or poor.

Atoning for and correcting the mistakes of our ancestors does not mean the next logical step is White Genocide unless you think the legitimate purpose of the criminal justice system is to protect white supremacy like it has up until this moment. If that’s your underlying premise, you’re a racist. That’s why you wave a Confederate flag, you just doxxed yourself and you need conversation therapy.

It’s time to wake up.

There is no national Antifa network. Pretending to be fascist Trump supporters who want Civil War. ANTIFA are Anti-Fascists who only exist right now because there are fascist Trump supporters threatening civil war inspired by the official Republican platform which doesn’t have anything in it other than clinical paranoia. Reeducating you to believe there’s a conspiracy to seize your guns and gender identity at the same time so you’re so disoriented you can’t defend yourself against a mass immigrant invasion threatening your livelihood.

Come on.

The real danger came from putting a recklessly uneducated man with a personality disorder in the White House. Who spent his one catastrophic term branding America’s democratic cities “enemies of the country” while taking credit for economic growth rates he inherited from a Democrat.

He and his Republican Senate, under the smokescreen of your disassociation from reality and the brand name “drain the swamp” filled the cabinet with profiteers like themselves. Billionaires made a $Trillion while they gutted out State Department, our FBI, our CIA, our DHS, our Post Office.

Whatever Trump touched, he wrecked.

They attacked our U.S. education system. They tore down the minimal regulations we have protecting America’s water, and air. They turned are already abysmal borders into a human right’s crisis. They smeared America’s top scientists and doctors, our healthcare system. They attacked the entire U.S. media. Their willful incompetence has been so destructive the U.S.A. is the epicenter of the worst pandemic in 100 years.

Hundreds of thousands of us are dead.

Millions are hungry and struggling to survive. And their final act was a massive campaign to sabotage the bedrock upon which we stand, American democracy itself.

This is on you, the Republican party. The majority of white America elected a man whose business model is lying. Who demands total obedience while swindling and turning on all of his employees and followers after years of abuse.

You elected a perfect cult leader. Our enemies are ecstatic. Our allies are horrified because of the suicidal Republican ideology of opposing any limits on gluttony and greed.

What was once a beacon of hope all over the world, American democracy is no longer a given. Your right-wing leaders and shouting heads, they’re not gonna stop clawing their way down a bottomless pit of excuses to continue profiting off of selling you a virtual alternate reality made up of false accusations and revenge fantasies. Giving you a persecution complex they won’t stop feeding no matter how many are driven right off the deep end.

Any citizen of the United States continuing to fall for it, some of you thinking of taking up arms against the strongest military power on earth, others making excuses for these terrorists because you share the same beliefs.

You’re delusional.

You don’t have a political party anymore. Come back to reality. January 6, 2021 — that was your “Come to Jesus” moment. Armed insurgents threaten to hang the Vice President, kill the speaker of the House, they dragged a cop down a flight of stairs and brutally beat another with an American flag. They killed police. A suicidal QAnon follower gave her life trying to break into the House chamber.

For what?

The most significant terror attack on our country since 9-11 happened because Republican radicals believed Democrats are Satan-worshiping pedophiles who stole their country and they’d rather die than lose the protection of their leader.

Defending truth and democracy and equality for all people against any tyranny, foreign and domestic, is the only thing that unites us and protects our freedoms.

That’s why Trump is being held accountable for his crimes. Along with every congressperson, every official, every officer, who conspired and continues to wage a mass deception campaign to overthrow American democracy, especially under the threat of violence.

The first amendment protects our right to express ourselves without fear of arrest. The right to free speech does not include threats of violence, and it certainly does not grant the authority to force media platforms to broadcast single-party hate propaganda that claim only it’s members are the “Real America.”

For the former Republican party, who call themselves “Patriots”, this is your wake-up call. Your nightmare of a brainwashed, radical, anti-American movement trying to destroy the country…

was You.

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2Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 11/4/2022, 3:47 pm


And MORE uncut truth.

"We need to stop pretending that we're not looking at what we're looking at... you are giving up on the United States, you are encouraging an authoritarian state. ... This isn't conservative and liberal, this is freedom and tyranny."

Republicans are going to try to set up a dictatorship -- either openly or by jiggering the system so it works out that way anyhow. And they only dare do it because they've decided that their base will support it. Their base WILL give up their freedom, just because they hate "the libs" and the gays and the blacks and the Mexicans.

And once they get that in place, and see that their base has accepted that... they're going to start killing.

But maybe that's what conservatives want, anyway. Hell, we've already seen our own resident piece of shit giggling away over a man getting his brains beat in with a hammer. He'll back them up all the way if they start murdering whole groups of people. He'll find some fucking excuse, or "what about" it, or "comrade" this, "gawd" that.

Every "good German" always has an excuse.

It gets ridiculous. Hell, earlier today I saw Joe Rogan get caught in a flat-out lie, and people in his audience making excuses for him. They don't care if they're lied to, they just wanna hear the stuff that makes 'em happy. I've never seen people fight harder to defend the very people who are making fools out of 'em.

Well, that's not exactly true -- I have seen it. People who defend televangelists. Prove Robert Tilton's a thief and there's always still gonna be some moron who'll keep sending him money.

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3Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 11/5/2022, 5:02 pm



zsomething wrote:And MORE uncut truth.

"We need to stop pretending that we're not looking at what we're looking at... you are giving up on the United States, you are encouraging an authoritarian state. ... This isn't conservative and liberal, this is freedom and tyranny."

Republicans are going to try to set up a dictatorship -- either openly or by jiggering the system so it works out that way anyhow.  And they only dare do it because they've decided that their base will support it.  Their base WILL give up their freedom, just because they hate "the libs" and the gays and the blacks and the Mexicans.

And once they get that in place, and see that their base has accepted that... they're going to start killing.

But maybe that's what conservatives want, anyway.  Hell, we've already seen our own resident piece of shit giggling away over a man getting his brains beat in with a hammer.  He'll back them up all the way if they start murdering whole groups of people.  He'll find some fucking excuse, or "what about" it, or "comrade" this, "gawd" that.  

Every "good German" always has an excuse.  

It gets ridiculous.  Hell, earlier today I saw Joe Rogan get caught in a flat-out lie, and people in his audience making excuses for him.  They don't care if they're lied to, they just wanna hear the stuff that makes 'em happy.  I've never seen people fight harder to defend the very people who are making fools out of 'em.  

Well, that's not exactly true -- I have seen it.  People who defend televangelists.  Prove Robert Tilton's a thief and there's always still gonna be some moron who'll keep sending him money.

Nailed it. 58336e36

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4Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 11/5/2022, 5:22 pm



I think you can still watch this for free today. Or make a donation.

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5Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 11/28/2022, 9:27 am



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6Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 11/28/2022, 1:07 pm


This Twitter thread has some hard truth simplified in it.  I keep meaning to re-read this book (and finish it this time - I didn't quite make it all the way last time... don't tell me how it ends! Wink  ).  It's a door-stop, but worth it.

It could go far more than ten, but it's a good start, and the ones he lists are pretty undeniable, even for the GOP's apologists.  It isn't limited to just Trump, though... they're the same way about DeSantis, who's proving to be even worse in almost every area.  

Even though Trump's sharing Thanksgiving with this fucking guy:

Plenty of clips in case anybody's got doubts and thinks "oh, the left calls everybody Nazis!" or whatever.  Have fun trying to defend that shit.

Meanwhile, Elon Musk is turning the place into 4Chan, bringing all the Nazis back on.   And he keeps saying "Vox Populi, Vox Dei."  And the stunnard is too cinderblock dumb to know the full quote that comes from.  The whole shebang is "Nec audiendi qui solent dicere, vox populi, vox dei, quum tumultuositas vulgi semper insaniae proxima sit.”

That translates to "do not listen to those who say the voice of the people is the voice of God, since the tumult of the crowd is always close to madness."   So he's condemning himself.

And that's exactly what he's creating -- madness.  Don't really care if Twitter crashes and burns.  I just hope it takes the ugly grubworm's fortune down with it.  Tesla stock is going through the basement, and not only because his cars catch fire worse than Pintos.

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7Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 11/28/2022, 2:48 pm



You don't even know what fascism is. It sure as hell isn't on the right. It might be a little right of communism or socialism... but it's no where near the center... much less the right in the country. In the simplest terms... it's both the direct and subversive collusion of govt and corporations/ groups/ wealthy elite. See: govt controlling the media like Facebook, Twitter, MSM to control and squash messaging.

H. G. Wells, one of the most influential progressives of the 20th century, said in 1932 that progressives must become “liberal fascists” and “enlightened Nazis.” Regarding totalitarianism, he stated: “I have never been able to escape altogether from its relentless logic.” Calling for a “‘Phoenix Rebirth’ of Liberalism” under the umbrella of “Liberal Fascism,” Wells said: “I am asking for a Liberal Fascisti, for enlightened Nazis.”

The poet Wallace Stevens pronounced himself “pro-Mussolini personally.”

The eminent historian Charles Beard wrote of Mussolini’s efforts: “Beyond question, an amazing experiment is being made [in Italy], an experiment in reconciling individualism and socialism.”

Muckraking journalists almost universally admired Mussolini. Lincoln Steffens, for one, said that Italian fascism made Western democracy, by comparison, look like a system run by “petty persons with petty purposes.” Mussolini, Steffens proclaimed reverently, had been “formed” by God “out of the rib of Italy.”

McClure’s Magazine founder Samuel McClure, an important figure in the muckraking movement, described Italian fascism as “a great step forward and the first new ideal in government since the founding of the American Republic.”

After having vistited Italy and interviewed Mussolini in 1926, the American humorist Will Rogers, who was informally dubbed “Ambassador-at-Large of the United States” by the National Press Club, said of the fascist dictator: “I’m pretty high on that bird.” “Dictator form of government is the greatest form of government,” Rogers wrote, “that is, if you have the right dictator.”

Reporter Ida Tarbell was deeply impressed by Mussolini’s attitudes regarding labor, affectionately dubbing him “a despot with a dimple.”

NAACP co-founder W. E. B. DuBois saw National Socialism as a worthy model for economic organization. The establishment of the Nazi dictatorship in Germany, he wrote, had been “absolutely necessary to get the state in order.” In 1937 DuBois stated: “there is today, in some respects, more democracy in Germany than there has been in years past.”

FDR adviser Rexford Guy Tugwell said of Italian fascism: “It’s the cleanest, neatest, most efficiently operating piece of social machinery I’ve ever seen. It makes me envious.”

New Republic editor George Soule, who avidly supported FDR, noted approvingly that the Roosevelt administration was “trying out the economics of fascism.”

Playwright George Bernard Shaw hailed Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini as the world’s great “progressive” leaders because they “did things,” unlike the leaders of those “putrefying corpses” called parliamentary democracies.

8Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 11/28/2022, 6:25 pm


Plagiarism from Jonah Goldberg's Liberal Fascism bullshit book ain't gonna save ya, chuckles. You don't know anything of your own so you present a propagandist's work as your knowledge. And you can't even recognize lies when they're being rammed down your gullet.

You think I'm not familiar with Jonah Goldberg's bilge?

Write your own stuff. I know you can barely string two words together without making three mistakes, but at least try. Your writing is painfully awkward because you obviously don't read much, much less write, but even though it's like watching a dog walk on its hind legs, I'd take that over fucking plagiarism.

Also, you may want to update your knowledge of Jonah Goldberg, because he's opposed to Trump these days... because he sees Trump flirting with fascism and is desperate to try to save the conservative movement from it.

See also: George Will.

The left has plenty of bad stuff, like Communism, but the American left isn't anywhere CLOSE to that. The American left isn't even really "left," compared to most of the rest of the world... it's center-left.

Meanwhile, the right-wing in America has a significant portion calling for dictatorships and outright seig heiling. You're gonna have to do a LOT better than reheated Jonah Goldberg leftovers from a decade ago to counter what's happening in your party, stupe.

This'll keep it simple for you... and this is old, he could come up with a LOT more if he re-did it today:

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9Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 11/28/2022, 6:54 pm



Standard projection. You're so conditioned that you can ignore direct quotes of the founders of modern progressivism. Let's not even pretend that it's liberalism anymore. Fascism at its root is an economic system... a state run economy. Who wants that? It's also authoritarian... who wants to dictate what companies can do? Who wants to control speech and the media? Who is continually changing the meaning of words? Who cries "SCIENCE" but can't define gender? You've completely abandoned reality and reason for a political narrative. Bought and sold.

10Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 11/28/2022, 7:14 pm



Here is the original article that the card cheating, drug addicted, lying reptile from Michigan, Little Richard, no doubt plagiarized. Good catch Z.

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11Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 11/29/2022, 10:42 am




An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.

The name comes from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis ‘rod’.

From: fascism in The Oxford Dictionary of Phrase and Fable »


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Good morning. The white nationalist who dined with Donald Trump has denigrated Black people, women, Jews and other groups.

Invoking bigotry
Donald Trump claimed he did not know who Nick Fuentes was before sitting down to dinner with him and other guests at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate last week. But Fuentes is certainly well known to the groups that track racist and antisemitic trends in American society.

While the Justice Department has described Fuentes in court papers as a white supremacist, that barely begins to fully capture the range of inflammatory views he has expressed denigrating Black people, Jews, women, L.G.B.T.Q. Americans, Muslims and immigrants.

At age 24, Fuentes has become a star on the far right for a font of extremist statements that would have disqualified him from meeting with any other modern president. He has used a racist slur for Black people; called homosexuality “disgusting”; asserted that the Republican Party was “run by Jews, atheists and homosexuals”; said it would be better if women could not vote; compared himself to Hitler and hoped for “a total Aryan victory”; declared that “the First Amendment was not written for Muslims”; and maintained that Jim Crow segregation “was better for them, it’s better for us, it’s better in general.”

Fuentes first came to prominence in 2017 when he attended the ultraright rally in Charlottesville, Va., after which Trump asserted that there were “very fine people on both sides” even as he denounced neo-Nazis. Fuentes dropped out of Boston University after saying he had received threats stemming from his attendance at the rally and began hosting a livestream show, “America First,” that same year, generating an audience of followers called Groypers, named for a cartoon frog.

He founded the America First Political Action Conference in 2020 and hosted far-right Republicans in the House including Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and Paul Gosar of Arizona. Fuentes rejects the term white supremacist because it is an “anti-white slur,” but embraces the language of white racism and antisemitism and calls himself a “reactionary” and a “misogynist.”

Trump often claims not to know much about extremists whose support he accepts, as he did with the former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, the Proud Boys and followers of QAnon. But even if it were true in this case, Fuentes was brought to the dinner by Kanye West, the rapper now known as Ye, who was invited by Trump at the very moment West was under fire for antisemitic comments of his own. And even afterward, Trump did not condemn Fuentes, leaving white nationalists to view the dinner as validation.

While news organizations are naturally reluctant to amplify hateful statements, it is important to understand just what we’re talking about when we discuss someone welcomed to the table of a former president seeking to return to the White House. So here is a summary compiled with the help of my colleague Ian Prasad Philbrick from research by the Anti-Defamation League, the Southern Poverty Law Center and other organizations and news outlets. Fuentes did not respond to requests for an interview passed along through a lawyer.

Antisemitism and racism
Fuentes regularly invokes fears of a “white genocide” and echoes replacement theory, which holds that elites seek to “replace” white Americans with immigrants and other people of color. The theory has inspired a number of mass shootings in recent years, including at a Pittsburgh synagogue, a Walmart in El Paso and a Buffalo supermarket.

“Our civilization is being dismantled, our people are being genocided, and conservatives can’t think past what will play well with liberal media in the next election,” Fuentes once tweeted. He has also said, “The Founders never intended for America to be a refugee camp for nonwhite people.” And on Alex Jones’s Infowars last year, he said, “I don’t see Jews as Europeans and I don’t see them as part of Western civilization, particularly because they are not Christians.”

Fuentes has advanced Holocaust denial, or what he calls Holocaust “revision,” most memorably in a video riff in which he compared Nazi death camps to Cookie Monster baking cookies, suggesting it was not possible to have killed six million Jews during World War II. He later said the video was only a “lampoon,” while saying he does acknowledge the Holocaust, and he has said he uses “irony” to discuss taboo subjects.

Violence and politics
While again saying he was only kidding, Fuentes appeared to endorse violence against women, telling one listener on his livestream who asked how to punish a wife “for getting out of line” that he should hit her.

“Why don’t you take your hand and give her a vicious slap right across her face, right across her ignorant face?” he said. “Why don’t you give her a vicious and forceful backhanded slap with your knuckles right across her face, disrespectfully, and make it hurt?” He then disavowed violence and claimed he was joking, saying he would never strike a woman “unless she deserved it.”

Fuentes has praised the fall of the American-backed government in Afghanistan because the Taliban “is a conservative, religious force” while “the U.S. is godless and liberal,” and cheered on President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, saying, “Can we give a round of applause for Russia?” He has said that the crusades and the inquisitions were “pretty good stuff” and that he wanted the “people that run CNN to be arrested and deported or hanged.”

As for the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, when he and other Trump supporters rallied outside the building, Fuentes has called it “awesome” and “lighthearted mischief.” On the anniversary of the riot, he revered it as “part of our new heritage,” adding that it should be a holiday. “This is a historic moment for us,” he said. “We should celebrate that it happened, absolutely.”

Related: Some Jewish Republicans who were among Trump’s staunchest supporters are backing away over concerns he is legitimizing antisemitism.

From Peter Baker at the NYT (my inbox)


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Nailed it. Famous11

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Famous Turkeys. One Double Impeached.

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Here's Ron DeSantis suggesting that Congress force a private company to do their bidding.

As a certain pilonidal cyst with the power of speech once said,

It's also authoritarian... who wants to dictate what companies can do? Who wants to control speech and the media?

Well, then, I guess now we know who wants to do that, eh? Very Happy Yer buddy Ron!

And then:

Who is continually changing the meaning of words

Such as "critical race theory"? Smile Or how 'bout "well-regulated militia"? I won't even go into "conservatism," or, hey, "Christianity," because... why pile on when the guy in question is already a fucking skidmark?

And as for defining gender, this isn't any area of expertise for me, but I do know enough to b'lieve it's conservatives who get that confused and don't understand the meaning of words. They don't seem to understand the difference between "sex" and "gender." They aren't the same thing. Sex is where one fits in the reproductive process... male or female. Sex is biological. Yeah, with very rare exceptions where a biological process got interrupted, there are two sexes. "Gender" is cultural, not biological. It's how an individual identifies with a sex... social constructs that, typically, go with each. These vary widely according to cultures & their traditions, times, attitudes, history of an area, etc. And so there's about as many attitudes about gender roles as there are people. I mean, you can argue "there's only two genders!" all you want to, but how do you explain these folks?

They definitely exist, there's no denying that. So, if there's a person who was born with the male sex, but does nothing that society considers masculine, are you still going to demand they be called a "man"? Or what about someone like Chas Bono.

Born, biological sex, female. So, are you gonna look at Chas now and still say, "That's a woman"? You're gonna be the weird one, with a weird definition of things, if you insist on that. If there are only two genders... what are those people?

Nothing's that simple when it comes to gender. For instance, there's nothing about a dress that's really "female" -- it's just been decided, by most of society, that that's a "girl thing." Unless you're in Scotland, where a kilt -- a skirt -- is the most masculine thing you can wear. In America, two men walking along holding hands would look "gay." In Vietnam, it's a standard thing guys do. There's a lot of things about gender that can seem pretty weird. And that's okay. I'll admit I find a lot of the trans stuff kinda strange. But I also think... so what if I find it strange? It's not really any of my business. If you like freedom, you want people to be able to do whatever makes them happy as long as they aren't hurting anyone. And that includes doing things that seem "weird" to you. Golf seems really fucking weird to me, too, but people enjoy it, so, have at it. People are allowed to do things that seem odd, if it's what it takes to make them happy. Any decent person would say that until people are actually victimizing someone, leave 'em be. Think they're weird if you want, but mind your own business about 'em.

Anyway, back to Ronnie DeSanctimonious. So much for capitalism, free hand of the market, etc., eh? That's just more hogwash. Also, what Ron's saying is bullshit -- Twitter was stopping the spread of inaccurate COVID info spread by right-wing idiots. Right-wingers beliiiiiiieeeeeeevvvvve a lot of things, and they believe them super-hard, but that still doesn't make 'em true. And they're stuck in information silos that feed them the bullshit they crave -- and only the bullshit they crave -- and that's why they think the horseshit they're shoveling is "accurate information." It's not.

Anyway, just for fun, and because I've got some time on my hands, I'm gonna play with what our resident lil' shit claimed back there. I don't want to talk to the asshole because it encourages him, but, then again, he shouldn't think he's not getting responses because he can't be debunked. He's just not worth debunking because no matter how much you disprove him, he just pulls some of this shit and denies that he's been debunked:

So, I'll talk about the miserable little dipshit. Laughing And Jonah Goldberg's screed, and what's crap about it.

First, the people he presents as "founders of progressivism" really aren't. Yeah, H. G. Wells said some stupid crap, as did most people of his time period (wait'll you read some of H. P. Lovecraft's letters, whooo boy). I have yet to meet any leftie who considers H. G. Wells one of their great luminaries. He churned out some nice pulp sci-fi but nobody's readin' that dude for political philosophy.

Same deal with Wallace Stevens, and all the other people Goldberg cherry-picked and attributed "liberal founder" labels onto. Most liberals have never heard of any of those people and sure don't view them as political leaders. I'm an English major, so I'm familiar with Wallace Stevens, and in none of my classes was he ever discussed as a political figure. He was just a dude who found 13 ways of looking at a blackbird or did some clever wordplay about the Emperor of Ice Cream, etc.

Goldberg, basically, just went out and found some people from a more backward time period who said some dumb shit and tried to make them "representative" of a whole viewpoint, when they aren't prevailing... and may not actually even be part of that viewpoint.

Goldberg's also one of these jagoffs who loves to play the "Republican" and "Democrat" game, when what he's really talking about is "conservative" and "liberal." He loves to point out that "Lincoln freed the slaves, and he was a Republican!" Yeah, and at the time he did it, the parties were not aligned according to ideology. Lincoln and the Republican party of his time were mostly liberal.

I think I've been over this before, but just to kick fuckface in the teeth, I'll go over it again: it's only relatively recently that the parties became identified with ideologies. Up until the civil rights era, you had liberal and conservative Republicans, and liberal and conservative Democrats. In the South, the Democrats were conservative. I know, 'cuz my family's mostly conservative... I got to watch 'em switch, firsthand. The Northern branch of the Democratic party was more liberal, and they were in favor of civil rights. The Southern Dems were conservative, and were against civil rights. Yeah, the Dems started the KKK... but those were conservative Dems. You won't find one single liberal founder of the KKK. You may find a few, like Byrd, who were conservative once and then wised up and saw the error of their ways, but what the KKK does is not a "liberal" thing -- it's a conservative one. Upholding the white-supremacy status quo... that's conservative.

People like to say the parties switched, but that's not really the case. The parties coalesced during the civil rights era. The conservative Democrats in the south felt betrayed by the liberal ones in the north and quit the party. After trying to start the "Dixiecrat" party, they gave in and joined the Republicans, who were courting them for political power. And this drove a lot of the more liberal Republicans to the Democratic party, which had just about only liberals left in it, since the bigoted conservatives had joined the Repubs.

Goldberg likes to ignore that fact because it suits his agenda more to say "Democrats were for Jim Crow!" When the real truth is, conservatives were for Jim Crow... liberals were not. Goldberg's basically damning his own ideology, but he trusts that his base (as is proven here) are too fuckin' stupid and incurious to look into the real facts of what he's talking about. Most conservatives hear what makes them happy and then they stop... and they don't care if it's true or not. They just believe and then they repeat bullshit.

Like our resident moron keeps doing here... even on Thanksgiving, which is pretty fucking sad. Dude couldn't find anybody he loved to spend time with so he was here still trying to fight old pandemic wars against people he doesn't even like. Rolling Eyes Even if you despise the guy, that'll make you pretty depressed to realize.

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17Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 11/30/2022, 4:17 pm



Perhaps they have the real HG Wells confused with this one from the Romantic, Comedy, SiFy Thriller "Time After Time."

Anyway, I know Goldberg was the darling of the mighty righties going back 10 years or so. I remember the mighty righties were always singing his praises on the Ft Myres and LoHud forums in the Gannett News Universe. Two of the nastiest cons, Krumhorny and his moll, Twolips, were always posting Goldbergs musings. Krumhorny was always pretending that he was a fighter pilot and later, the owner of a Hooters in Ft Myers. Actually he was a church organist in Phoenix Arizona. I thought Markle was Krumhorny until they both posted on the Ft Myres forum at the same time. Krumhorny was longer winded than Markle. The less said about Twolips, the better. For some reason they stopped posting Goldberg or at least they didn't give Goldberg credit when they did post his work. Maybe they just took a turn on the name, Goldberg.

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18Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 12/1/2022, 9:39 am



So wait... we already know that this fascist regime has been exerting pressure, as our enormous central govt, on companies to suppress speech (proven true) aaaaand any information counter to the leftist narrative. All of a sudden Google/apple (already confirmed biased in congressional testimony) is threatening to remove Twitter from the play store to punish Elon for championing free speech and making the workings transparent. But speaking against that is the fascism? Lmao... you're a complete fool. Desantis can't do anything as a state governor except exercise his right to free speech and speak truth to power. Could you be any more conditioned to the leftist narrative? Maybe... but it'd have to be tanks in the street or raiding/jailing/silencing political enemies of the State. Oops... too late.

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19Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 12/1/2022, 11:35 am


Nailed it. FgKfx-SWYAAyxvf?format=jpg&name=small

Goddamn but that old dribbling old fool's desperately dumb.  "Ron DeSantis is a governor so if he says fascist stuff it doesn't matter" meh-meh-meh, trying to change all the rules of everything until he's not dumb anymore.    

Nailed it. 1f923

Anyway, enough of him.  Here's more of what Elon Musk is doing as far as "free speech" goes.  At least for Nazis.

I'm not certain Elon knows what he's doing overall.  The guy seems to be absolutely socially inept (he does claim to have Asperger's, which may be part of it) and he seems to be easily manipulated by anyone who he thinks "likes" him -- another trait of narcissists that he shares with Trump.  Also Elon's proving to be... not all that smart.  Dumb as fuck, in fact, when it comes to anything that isn't about tech.  And I'm not sure he's really that great with tech and isn't just taking credit for people on his payroll... he really hasn't displayed much basic intelligence in most areas.

Anyway, he's so excited at having "friends" that he's letting himself get used by Nazis.  I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and thinking that's more of a factor than him actually being a Nazi himself... although he'll probably get there if he keeps being weak and needy, because that's how most Nazi skinheads get their recruits -- "befriending" the friendless, who become their useful idiots.

While "Mr. Free Speech" is handing out megaphones to the bigots, he's also cutting off a lot of left-leaning accounts, so apparently his version of "free speech" isn't really... y'know... free speech.

There's a thread here explaining what's up.

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20Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 12/1/2022, 11:48 am



Gawd you're stupid. The fascism is the central govt exerting pressure on social platforms and media to do their bidding. NOT some governor of a state speaking against exactly that act... THE FASCISM. That you can't grasp that is about all that needs to be said about your intellect and ability to think... you certainly can't do that for yourself. You must gobble up a leftist narrative like a dog eating puke.

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21Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 12/1/2022, 5:57 pm



Speaking of stupid, are all drug abusing, card cheating, tennis queens from Michigan as stupid as Little Richard? Rolling Eyes

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24Nailed it. Empty Re: Nailed it. 12/2/2022, 9:07 am



Say it proud and say it loud.

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