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1Every Damn Word of This Empty Every Damn Word of This 3/30/2022, 2:35 pm

Sal

Sal

2016: "Russia if you're listening..."
2019: "I'd like you to do me a favor..."
2022: "...So now I would think Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it."
-- Donald Trump, repeatedly imploring foreign despots to attack Americans


A few days ago, Fox Business News Stuart Varney asked Donald Trump what he would do differently from Biden when it comes to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

What would you do differently, Mr. Trump?

What indeed?

Trump, a man who declares himself a military genius and who allegedly knows more than actual military generals, replied:

“Well, uh, what I would do, is I would, we would, uh, we have tremendous military capability and, uh, what we can do without planes, to be honest with you, uh, without 44-year-old jets, what we can do is enormous, and we should be doing it, and we should be helping them to survive and they’re doing an amazing job.”

There you go, the vision of a military genius.

It's like listening to some football player who's been hit in the head one too many times: Uh, well, I just wanna, uh, you know, get out there and, uh, you know, do the thing that we do, uh, you know, stuff with that is enormous stuff that we're doing every day, um, you know, with the thing, you know, that we do because that's how you do it and they're doing an amazing job!

Even Varney couldn't believe the gibberish coming out of Trump's sagging ridiculous Big Mac hole.

So he asked again, what would you do in Ukraine that Biden's not doing right now?

I mean, you have give Varney credit for hanging in there like a Russian general about to become yet another hilarious statistic in Western news media, but honestly I don't know how after all this time he couldn't see what was coming.

“I listen to him [Putin] constantly using the n-word [the what?] that’s the n-word, uh, and he’s constantly using it [wut? wut?] the nuclear word [OH] and we never talk of, uh, we say, ‘Oh, he’s a nuclear power,’ but we’re a greater nuclear power, we have the greatest submarines in the world, most powerful machines ever built, most powerful, and they got built under me [The only nuclear subs we're building are the Virginia Class which were ALL ordered and budged prior to 2014, Trump had literally nothing to do with it, but he's on a roll] most powerful machines ever built, and nobody knows where they are and you should say, ‘Look, if you mention that word one more time, we’re going to send them over, uh, and, uh, we’ll be coasting back and forth up and down your coast.’”

Get all that?

Trump's big plan is that since nobody knows where the submarines are (which is pretty much the whole point of submarines) we'll just go ahead and TELL THE ENEMY WHERE THEY ARE.

We'll just tell the enemy were our secret weapons are.

Genius.

While at the same time also, apparently, threatening nuclear war and basically daring Russia to do something about it.

That's what Trump would do.

I can't tell you how damn glad I am that he's not the guy doing it anymore.

Well, at least for the moment, but we'll come back to that.

Because he's a fucking lunatic.

He's nuts. Crazy. Barking mad.

This is Trump, literally saying in one breath that if he was in charge, he'd threaten nuclear war, global annihilation, and then minutes later openly begging political favors from the same guy he's threatening.

He's insane.

His gray spongy brain is a ragged tangle of cobwebs full of dead bugs and bad smells.

If we are not as yet actually at war with Russia then it's the very next thing to it -- as Trump himself must believe, otherwise why would you threaten nuclear war?

And yet, here's Trump demanding Vladimir Putin produce some sort of compromising material on Joe Biden's son to somehow damage Biden himself solely in order to profit Trump.

This isn't the first time Trump has done this.

It's not even the second time.



And at this point, if that isn't treason, it's the next thing to it.



Yesterday, Congressman Matt Gaetz declared in apparent seriousness that if Republicans take back the House later this year, he intends to nominate Trump as Speaker of the House. There's nothing in the Constitution that would prevent this, and as ridiculous as it sounds I wouldn't put it passed Republicans to do it solely in order to make liberals scream in rage -- because that's become the mean small ideology of the GOP in its entirety.

Also, yesterday, we discovered there's a seven hours gap in White House phone logs, in Trump's records specifically, during the height of the January 6th Insurrection.

Literally, at the exact moment Trump's supporters stormed the Capitol his official phone logs show no data.

Yet, we know with absolute certainty Trump was on the phone during that period.

We know this, because when you examine the phone logs of other Republicans during that same time, those records show calls from Trump.

For example, Trump called Senator Mike Lee, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, and Vice President Mike Pence during that seven hour gap. This is not in dispute. He was on the phone, calling his own Vice President, calling members of Congress, and members of the media -- such as Sean Hannity.

So, either Trump was using burner phones to avoid the Presidential Records Act in a premeditated violation of the law, or the official White House records have been deleted, altered, or forged again in violation of the law.

There are no other options.

Trump committed criminal acts.

This not alleged. This not speculation. This is fact. Trump committed criminal acts.

In fact, last Monday, Federal Judge David Carter in a case involving Trump crony and right wing lawyer John Eastman, formally stated:

"Based on the evidence, the Court finds it more likely than not that President Trump corruptly attempted to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021."

"The illegality of the plan was obvious. Our nation was founded on the peaceful transition of power, epitomized by George Washington laying down his sword to make way for democratic elections. Ignoring this history, President Trump vigorously campaigned for the Vice President to single-handedly determine the results of the 2020 election ... Every American -- and certainly the President of the United States -- knows that in a democracy, leaders are elected, not installed."


Eastman was in court, suing to prevent having to turn over records of communication between himself and Trump which the January 6th Committee believes may show that he and the former President planned to criminally disrupt certification of the election, knowing they were committing crime. I.e. Trump's actions on January 6th were premeditated sedition.

Unfortunately, neither the January 6th Committee or Judge Carter have the power to bring criminal charges against Trump.

Only the Department of Justice can do that.

And so far, the Attorney General has shown absolutely no interest in doing so.

I know a lot of those on the Left would like to think there's some big secret plan afoot, that cases like this take time, etc, the DOJ is closing in and soon Trump will face justice.

And maybe there is.

Maybe Merrick Garland is a cunning and cagy general, scouting the enemy, gathering intelligence, moving his army into position, and perhaps one day he'll unleash a legal Blitzkrieg and those like me who are increasingly doubtful that Trump and his seditious cronies will ever be brought to justice, yeah, well, maybe we'll have to hang our heads in shame and apologize.

And if that day comes, if I watch them dragging Trump in chains to a traitor's just fate, well, then I'll certainly apologize for my lack of faith.

But if it doesn't happen very, very soon, it never will.

Because this isn't about justice.

It's not about legalities.

It's not even about what's right and wrong.

It's about politics.

And politics are about perception.

And there is no one -- no one -- who understands this better than Donald J. Trump.

See those words up above. Trump's words. His big plan to defeat Russia. Gibberish. None of it makes any coherent sense. It's a brain full of spiders. Not one word of it makes any sense. It's disjointed mewling insanity.

But Republicans don't care.

Trump doesn't have to make sense.

Trump knows this. Republicans know this. The mob doesn't give a shit what the words are or even if they make any sense.

Look at the recent Trucker Convoy in Washington D.C.

Big joke, right? You and I, we saw a joke, a ridiculous sad failure, a bunch of losers peeing on themselves and driving around in circles. They didn't even know what they were protesting.

That's what we saw.

But the other side? They saw defiance. Patriotism. Liberty.

It doesn't matter if it made any sense, it's about what you see.

Because politics is about perception.

And so, if the DOJ doesn't shit or get off the pot soon, they might as well not even bother.

Because if Republican take back Congress this year, then just like those two impeachments, nothing the law does will matter.

And Trump will not only have gotten away with it again, he'll likely regain the White House.



Right now, right this very minute, Russia's official state media is calling for Russia's "Partner Trump" to be installed (their words) as President of the United States.



That's where we're at.

Right on the cusp. Right on the edge of losing it all.

So, in case I'm being too subtle here, in case you've read this far and you haven't figured out where I'm going, it's this:

This is your 2022, 2024 CLARION CALL TO SHOW THE HELL UP.

No more bullshit.

No excuses.

No more "both sides."

I don't want to hear about how disappointed you are with Biden or Pelosi or democrats. I don't want to hear any whining about how you don't like the choices. Any of this childish nonsense about how you want better choices.

Too damn bad.

This isn't about what you like, it's about your duty as a citizen.

This is it. You can't depend on anyone else to save you, to save your country, to save your kid's future.

It's up to you. You have to show up.

You show up. You browbeat your friends and family and strangers to show up. And you keep this lunatic and his lunatic party the hell out of office. Give the DOJ time to bring them to justice, if you believe that's what going to happen some day. Or at the minimum you just keep these assholes out of office and avert nuclear war and maybe that's the best you're going to get.

Whatever way it goes, everything you care about, everything, is on the line. This is it.

So I don't want to hear any infantile whining about how you wish it was different. No shit, we all do. But it's not and here we are.

Time to adult, folks.

You show up and you do your duty.

You want a better nation, be a better citizen.



The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil constitution, are worth defending against all hazards: And it is our duty to defend them against all attacks.
-- Samuel Adams

https://www.stonekettle.com/2022/03/no-one-is-coming-to-save-us.html?m=1

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2Every Damn Word of This Empty Re: Every Damn Word of This 3/30/2022, 9:06 pm

othershoe1030

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Stonekettle is one of the best people on Twitter. I follow him, along with 195,000 other people who follow him. He cuts to the chase.
Thanks for posting this here.

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3Every Damn Word of This Empty Re: Every Damn Word of This 4/6/2022, 5:33 pm

zsomething



This


“Well, uh, what I would do, is I would, we would, uh, we have tremendous military capability and, uh, what we can do without planes, to be honest with you, uh, without 44-year-old jets, what we can do is enormous, and we should be doing it, and we should be helping them to survive and they’re doing an amazing job.”

went through my mind today because I had a Republican acquaintance try to talk "Ukraine strategy" with me.  This is a dippyfuck who hasn't been able to place a grouping like mine on the best day of his life and who talked about his hand-to-hand prowess constantly until I invited him to spar and then he "well, uh, muh bursitis!"ed his way out of that... I'm getting real fucking tired of tough-talk from conservatives who don't like to fucking fight and I'm also tired of 'em acting like they're military experts when they keep telling me Trump's some warlord genius when he says things like the above.

Let's dissect that shit, just for funsies.  

WHY would this guy, who "knows more than the generals," be talking about doing anything military-wise without planes?  And bitching about our jets... if that's what he's doing -- it's hard to figure out what in the hell Captain Mumblefuck is saying at any given point in time (they love to mock Biden, who's had a stutter all his life, but they ignore Trump's word-diarrhea).  

Fun fact about the U.S. military.

The United States Air Force -- by FAR -- is the largest air force in the world.  It ain't even close.

The second biggest air force in the world... is the United States Navy.  And again, that by itself dwarfs any other country's.

Around the fourth or fifth largest air force is the United States Marines.

So we fucking OWN the air.  We dominate it utterly.  It's flat-out silly how strong we air in the air.  

And we'd be going against Russia not just with us, but all of NATO.

It's not funny because there's fucking genocide going on, but it should be.  Here's a little visual aid for our resident stupidass because I know he's gonna open his gloryhole and say some shit like he always does:



Russia is Bambi, we -- even without NATO -- are Godzilla.

With NATO, it's just mean already.  The Russian Air Force would be gone in less than a week.

Yeah, they'd still have their nukes and that's a problem, and that's what's holding us back, but why Trump would try to "work around" our air superiority proves just how colossal a dumbfuck he is, and how blatting-ass-stupid any asshole who makes excuses for him is.

Talking about ground forces... sheeeeeyyyyit.  Ukraine has that covered, all we'd have to do is remove Russia from the sky.  And that'd be quick work.  O' course, then you'd have World War III with the nukes and all and that's the reason not to just go ahead and do it... but it's just about the only reason.  Trump talking about doing it "without planes" shows what a joke he is and always was.

I don't think that acquaintance is going to be sharing his dumb fucking opinions with me anymore.  Half of his strategy involves "trusting in Jesus" anyway, and so far that's cost him one kid and another in rehab... the stupid mutt.   God, I'm getting so worn out from putting up with 'em... they're exhausting.

(edited to bold some things to help Gator's reading comprehension)



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4Every Damn Word of This Empty Re: Every Damn Word of This 4/7/2022, 1:56 pm

gatorfan



zsomething wrote:This


“Well, uh, what I would do, is I would, we would, uh, we have tremendous military capability and, uh, what we can do without planes, to be honest with you, uh, without 44-year-old jets, what we can do is enormous, and we should be doing it, and we should be helping them to survive and they’re doing an amazing job.”

went through my mind today because I had a Republican acquaintance try to talk "Ukraine strategy" with me.  This is a dippyfuck who hasn't been able to place a grouping like mine on the best day of his life and who talked about his hand-to-hand prowess constantly until I invited him to spar and then he "well, uh, muh bursitis!"ed his way out of that... I'm getting real fucking tired of tough-talk from conservatives who don't like to fucking fight and I'm also tired of 'em acting like they're military experts when they keep telling me Trump's some warlord genius when he says things like the above.

Let's dissect that shit, just for funsies.  

WHY would this guy, who "knows more than the generals," be talking about doing anything military-wise without planes?  And bitching about our jets... if that's what he's doing -- it's hard to figure out what in the hell Captain Mumblefuck is saying at any given point in time (they love to mock Biden, who's had a stutter all his life, but they ignore Trump's word-diarrhea).  

Fun fact about the U.S. military.

The United States Air Force -- by FAR -- is the largest air force in the world.  It ain't even close.

The second biggest air force in the world... is the United States Navy.  And again, that by itself dwarfs any other country's.

Around the fourth or fifth largest air force is the United States Marines.

So we fucking OWN the air.  We dominate it utterly.  It's flat-out silly how strong we air in the air.  

And we'd be going against Russia not just with us, but all of NATO.

It's not funny because there's fucking genocide going on, but it should be.  Here's a little visual aid for our resident stupidass because I know he's gonna open his gloryhole and say some shit like he always does:

Russia is Bambi, we -- even without NATO -- are Godzilla.

With NATO, it's just mean already.  The Russian Air Force would be gone in less than a week.

Yeah, they'd still have their nukes and that's a problem, and that's what's holding us back, but why Trump would try to "work around" our air superiority proves just how colossal a dumbfuck he is, and how blatting-ass-stupid any asshole who makes excuses for him is.

Talking about ground forces... sheeeeeyyyyit.  Ukraine has that covered, all we'd have to do is remove Russia from the sky.  And that'd be quick work.  O' course, then you'd have World War III with the nukes and all and that's the reason not to just go ahead and do it... but it's just about the only reason.  Trump talking about doing it "without planes" shows what a joke he is and always was.

I don't think that acquaintance is going to be sharing his dumb fucking opinions with me anymore.  Half of his strategy involves "trusting in Jesus" anyway, and so far that's cost him one kid and another in rehab... the stupid mutt.   God, I'm getting so worn out from putting up with 'em... they're exhausting.

It’s somewhat interesting how you always have an anecdote about some uneducated cracker you just talked to regardless of the topic at hand. You “shoot” better, you know more about military matters, and you’re positive an air war with U.S. assets in Ukraine would be simple. Did I summarize close enough?
Speaking with 20 years military service including combat time, I can state it would not be a simple exercise. Apparently there are many more moving parts to an air war over territory contested by a major power like Russia that you aren’t aware of. And I’m not speaking about nukes although that HAS to be a consideration.
So far Biden is doing OK with this mess although I’m far from convinced we don’t have at least some special forces operating there. I know the Green Berets were involved prior to the invasion with training Ukrainians to some extent.
And I could give fuck all what Trumpet has to say.

5Every Damn Word of This Empty Re: Every Damn Word of This 4/7/2022, 2:25 pm

Telstar

Telstar

gatorfan wrote:
zsomething wrote:This


“Well, uh, what I would do, is I would, we would, uh, we have tremendous military capability and, uh, what we can do without planes, to be honest with you, uh, without 44-year-old jets, what we can do is enormous, and we should be doing it, and we should be helping them to survive and they’re doing an amazing job.”

went through my mind today because I had a Republican acquaintance try to talk "Ukraine strategy" with me.  This is a dippyfuck who hasn't been able to place a grouping like mine on the best day of his life and who talked about his hand-to-hand prowess constantly until I invited him to spar and then he "well, uh, muh bursitis!"ed his way out of that... I'm getting real fucking tired of tough-talk from conservatives who don't like to fucking fight and I'm also tired of 'em acting like they're military experts when they keep telling me Trump's some warlord genius when he says things like the above.

Let's dissect that shit, just for funsies.  

WHY would this guy, who "knows more than the generals," be talking about doing anything military-wise without planes?  And bitching about our jets... if that's what he's doing -- it's hard to figure out what in the hell Captain Mumblefuck is saying at any given point in time (they love to mock Biden, who's had a stutter all his life, but they ignore Trump's word-diarrhea).  

Fun fact about the U.S. military.

The United States Air Force -- by FAR -- is the largest air force in the world.  It ain't even close.

The second biggest air force in the world... is the United States Navy.  And again, that by itself dwarfs any other country's.

Around the fourth or fifth largest air force is the United States Marines.

So we fucking OWN the air.  We dominate it utterly.  It's flat-out silly how strong we air in the air.  

And we'd be going against Russia not just with us, but all of NATO.

It's not funny because there's fucking genocide going on, but it should be.  Here's a little visual aid for our resident stupidass because I know he's gonna open his gloryhole and say some shit like he always does:

Russia is Bambi, we -- even without NATO -- are Godzilla.

With NATO, it's just mean already.  The Russian Air Force would be gone in less than a week.

Yeah, they'd still have their nukes and that's a problem, and that's what's holding us back, but why Trump would try to "work around" our air superiority proves just how colossal a dumbfuck he is, and how blatting-ass-stupid any asshole who makes excuses for him is.

Talking about ground forces... sheeeeeyyyyit.  Ukraine has that covered, all we'd have to do is remove Russia from the sky.  And that'd be quick work.  O' course, then you'd have World War III with the nukes and all and that's the reason not to just go ahead and do it... but it's just about the only reason.  Trump talking about doing it "without planes" shows what a joke he is and always was.

I don't think that acquaintance is going to be sharing his dumb fucking opinions with me anymore.  Half of his strategy involves "trusting in Jesus" anyway, and so far that's cost him one kid and another in rehab... the stupid mutt.   God, I'm getting so worn out from putting up with 'em... they're exhausting.

It’s somewhat interesting how you always have an anecdote about some uneducated cracker you just talked to regardless of the topic at hand. You “shoot” better, you know more about military matters, and you’re positive an air war with U.S. assets in Ukraine would be simple. Did I summarize close enough?
Speaking with 20 years military service including combat time, I can state it would not be a simple exercise. Apparently there are many more moving parts to an air war over territory contested by a major power like Russia that you aren’t aware of. And I’m not speaking about nukes although that HAS to be a consideration.
So far Biden is doing OK with this mess although I’m far from convinced we don’t have at least some special forces operating there. I know the Green Berets were involved prior to the invasion with training Ukrainians to some extent.
And I could give fuck all what Trumpet has to say.




Almost as interesting as how you always show up to support your better half, the Michigan pill popper. Tally Ho Bama' Boy! alien

6Every Damn Word of This Empty Re: Every Damn Word of This 4/7/2022, 2:34 pm

gatorfan



[quote="Telstar"]
gatorfan wrote:
zsomething wrote:This







Almost as interesting as how you always show up to support your better half, the Michigan pill popper. Tally Ho Bama' Boy! alien

One thing is certain, having absolutely NOTHING to add to a discussion has never slowed you down. New York drone to the end......

7Every Damn Word of This Empty Re: Every Damn Word of This 4/7/2022, 2:43 pm

Telstar

Telstar

gatorfan wrote:
Telstar wrote:
gatorfan wrote:
zsomething wrote:This







Almost as interesting as how you always show up to support your better half, the Michigan pill popper. Tally Ho Bama' Boy! alien

One thing is certain, having absolutely NOTHING to add to a discussion has never slowed you down. New York drone to the end......




Go back to holding your Michigan boyfriends tally-wacker, Bama Boy.

8Every Damn Word of This Empty Re: Every Damn Word of This 4/7/2022, 3:05 pm

zsomething



gatorfan wrote:

It’s somewhat interesting how you always have an anecdote about some uneducated cracker you just talked to regardless of the topic at hand.

I live in Mississippi, I can't throw a rock without hitting half a dozen of 'em.  So, yeah, I talk to a bunch of 'em every day.  It's wearying.


You “shoot” better, you know more about military matters,

Than that guy I do.  And that's not bragging, because he sucks at everything -- it's a low bar.  And yet he's arrogant about all of it, dude thinks he's Billy Badass.  You'd probably be annoyed with the guy, too, if you knew him.  But you don't stop to consider any of that because I'm a big red cape to you -- just seeing me flips your "go" switch, regardless of what I'm saying.  Reactionary much?



and you’re positive an air war with U.S. assets in Ukraine would be simple. Did I summarize close enough?

Basically, yeah.



Speaking with 20 years military service including combat time, I can state it would not be a simple exercise. Apparently there are many more moving parts to an air war over territory contested by a major power like Russia that you aren’t aware of.

Plenty of NATO and NATO allied countries right on the border, plus VAST air superiority -- the U.S. has so many warplanes it almost equals the entire rest of the world put together, and the technology is far advanced, as well -- backed by a strong economy while Russia's is falling apart... I'd say yeah, Russia's not going to come out well in that one.   Not that I think going in is a wise move because there are a lot of other factors.  I'm not advocating that.  I'm just saying Trump downplaying our air power proves how inept he is.   That is what I was discussing, clearly, if you read it.

If you want to hear about the other factors, here's a discussion of that... from a guy who also doesn't think NATO involvement is necessarily a wise thing.





And I’m not speaking about nukes although that HAS to be a consideration.

As I clearly stated, if you read it.  I went back and bolded those parts to make it easy for ya.

So far Biden is doing OK with this mess although I’m far from convinced we don’t have at least some special forces operating there. I know the Green Berets were involved prior to the invasion with training Ukrainians to some extent.

Could be.  I know some Americans did go in, unofficially.

And I could give fuck all what Trumpet has to say.

Then why reply to a message that was entirely aimed at what Trump was saying?  Because that's pretty much all I was talking about.

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