101,300 evacuated since July.
Really remarkable stuff.
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I agree with most of what you said, but it appears Trump left the Afghans up the creek without a paddle...pulled air support, leaving them demoralized. Here's an interview with David Petraeus. I know, I know...he's not who I would consult on this subject, mainly because he has a blind spot when he looks in the mirror. But read what he has to say.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/david-petraeus-on-american-mistakes-in-afghanistan
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Also this:
Trump Reveals His Plan for Afghanistan Was to Abandon Our Troops and Allies - Psaki Reveals His Lies
August 25, 2021
"One of the problems that Joe Biden inherited from his predecessors when he became President was the two decades long war in Afghanistan. And he made it clear that he was determined to make certain that it wasn't handed down to another president.
Biden's goal was strewn with obstacles placed in his path by Donald Trump, whose abysmal deal with the Taliban has been lambasted by his own National Security Advisor as a "surrender agreement," that lifted all sanctions on the Taliban and freed 5,000 of their imprisoned fighters, including their leader.
Not one to be deterred by reality, Trump is still hammering away at Biden with blatantly dishonest representations of the situation now unfolding in Afghanistan. He released a statement on Tuesday via his spokes-shill, Liz Harrington (whose proxy Trump tweeting is violating Twitter's rules against circumventing a ban), that sound more like a madman on a street corner yelling at passing cars than a diplomat:
"Biden surrendered Afghanistan to terrorists and left thousands of Americans for dead by pulling out the Military before our citizens. Now we are learning that out of the 26,000 people who have been evacuated, only 4,000 are Americans. You can be sure the Taliban, who are now in complete control, didn’t allow the best and brightest to board these evacuation flights. Instead, we can only imagine how many thousands of terrorists have been airlifted out of Afghanistan and into neighborhoods around the world. What a terrible failure. NO VETTING. How many terrorists will Joe Biden bring to America? We don’t know!"
There's a lot to unpack in that hysterical harangue. Starting at the top, Biden did not surrender to terrorists. That was Trump. And Biden has not left a single American for dead, much less thousands. Trump appears to have ingested some powerful hallucinogens..."
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/24/2048010/-Trump-Reveals-His-Plan-for-Afghanistan-Was-to-Abandon-Our-Troops-and-Allies-Psaki-Reveals-His-Lies?pm_source=story_sidebar&pm_medium=web&pm_campaign=recommended#comment_81665687
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Sal wrote:Pulling out of a quagmire is a messy business by definition, there’s no two ways about it.
The fact that there hasn’t been a US casualty yet during this incredibly fraught and complex operation is nothing short of a miracle.
Make no mistake, the MAGA types are praying for a suicide bomber or a plane to go down, and it’s getting more likely by the minute.
American Taliban has never been a more apt description.
Unfortunately now it's reported 4 Marines were killed. Sally is ecstatic.gatorfan wrote:Sal wrote:Pulling out of a quagmire is a messy business by definition, there’s no two ways about it.
The fact that there hasn’t been a US casualty yet during this incredibly fraught and complex operation is nothing short of a miracle.
Make no mistake, the MAGA types are praying for a suicide bomber or a plane to go down, and it’s getting more likely by the minute.
American Taliban has never been a more apt description.
You invariably post a bunch of BS trying to get a reaction but to say anyone is "praying for a suicide bomber" is just ignorant.
So yes you got your suicide bomber (I prefer murder bomber) and yes Americans were injured at the last report I saw. Hope you're happy now. Send another check to ISIS.
The only success story in this Biden fiasco are the troops and aircraft crews from various countries putting THEIR asses on the X to make this thing happen.
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PkrBum wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/26/us-officials-provided-taliban-with-names-of-americans-afghan-allies-to-evacuate-506957
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Sal wrote:When you lose a war and hand the country over to the enemy, there’s no way to extract your people or your allies safely.
There will always be violence, panic, and chaos.
This is the nature of retreat.
This is true, no matter how many times you run the experiment.
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Sal wrote:
What a rube. So NOW your are saying it's a Hiden Biden retreat. Make your mind up. It's a disaster because he had no real plan. Such an armchair partisan expert. GAG.
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Sal wrote:there’s no way to extract your people or your allies safely.
Sal wrote:gatorfan wrote:Sal wrote:
What a rube. So NOW your are saying it's a Hiden Biden retreat. Make your mind up. It's a disaster because he had no real plan. Such an armchair partisan expert. GAG.
There's no graceful departure from a war—especially a war that was never winnable.
And, there's no moral explanation for how some people (see Chuckles and Skippy) are using the tragedy of a terrorist attack against our troops for partisan purposes.
Meanwhile, 109,200 evacuated since 8/14. 114,800 since July.
Why don’t you ask one of those evacuees if this operation was a “disaster”, you pathetic, unpatriotic, Trump-humping POS?
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gatorfan wrote:Sal wrote:When you lose a war and hand the country over to the enemy, there’s no way to extract your people or your allies safely.
There will always be violence, panic, and chaos.
This is the nature of retreat.
This is true, no matter how many times you run the experiment.
What a rube. So NOW your are saying it's a Hiden Biden retreat. Make your mind up. It's a disaster because he had no real plan. Such an armchair partisan expert. GAG.
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Floridatexan wrote:gatorfan wrote:Sal wrote:When you lose a war and hand the country over to the enemy, there’s no way to extract your people or your allies safely.
There will always be violence, panic, and chaos.
This is the nature of retreat.
This is true, no matter how many times you run the experiment.
What a rube. So NOW your are saying it's a Hiden Biden retreat. Make your mind up. It's a disaster because he had no real plan. Such an armchair partisan expert. GAG.
It's clueless jackasses like you who bear the responsibility for the Afghanistan debacle. Don't forget who invaded Afghanistan under the pretext of getting Bin Laden. Don't forget what Trump did to set up this nightmare, or the absolute fact that your chosen party is now killing kids for political points. Who's the rube?
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You are. I haven't forgotten anything including the fact you are ignorant of the real world. I don't even have a "chosen Party", Independent is not a "Party" you clueless, uneducated freak. Biden just ordered a hit on kids and tried to claim success - got any comment loser?
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Sal wrote:gatorfan wrote:
You are. I haven't forgotten anything including the fact you are ignorant of the real world. I don't even have a "chosen Party", Independent is not a "Party" you clueless, uneducated freak. Biden just ordered a hit on kids and tried to claim success - got any comment loser?
What a load of horseshit.
You’re nothing more than a coward who refuses to stand by his ill-considered convictions, and who never fails to wave the bloody shirt regardless of where you find it.
In other words, a throughly despicable political hack and a miserable excuse for a human being.
Sal wrote:It is over.
The end of a 20 year error.
Thank you, President Biden.
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