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1We just hit the 14th point...  Empty We just hit the 14th point... on 7/30/2020, 5:13 pm

zsomething


As Beau here spells out, we've just hit point number 14.



Point number fourteen of what? Fascism.

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html


Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.

The 14 characteristics are:

Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.


Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.


Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause

The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.


Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.


Fraudulent Elections

Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.


I lack the time right now but may come back and add examples of each in the following thread, and welcome you all to do so, as well. It won't be too difficult in a lot of the cases... Trump beats us over the head with a lot of 'em.

If I get time I may wanna go back and mark off the characteristics of cults, too, because we're most definitely dealing with one.


“The Republican leadership needs to deny the President the nomination. This is it. The United States has not faced a threat like this since 1860. … The country is in more peril than people realize. Those who wave their American flags as they waive their rights and support this man are selling out everything they pretend they believe in. IF YOU STILL SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP, YOU DO NOT SUPPORT THE UNITED STATES.” — Beau of the Fifth Column.

Pretty much undeniable now.

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2We just hit the 14th point...  Empty Re: We just hit the 14th point... on 7/30/2020, 8:02 pm

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We just hit the 14th point...  EeM7X1TUYAEknSR?format=png&name=medium

That's Stephen Cabrisi, a co-founder of the Federalist Society. That's ultra-conservative, about as conservative as it gets.

Trump's even lost legit conservatives.

All he's got left is his cult. And his cult doesn't really know what it believes, other than it hates whatever it's told are "liberals." Trump's the messiah of crazy idiots. and that's about it.

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3We just hit the 14th point...  Empty Re: We just hit the 14th point... on 7/31/2020, 9:13 am

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4We just hit the 14th point...  Empty Re: We just hit the 14th point... on 7/31/2020, 2:25 pm

zsomething


Okay, I mentioned something about cults earlier, and once again Beau posted something relevant:



So, let's look at that. I haven't looked into what I think the best list of characteristics of a cult is, but maybe it's not fair that I get to define that, so, I'll link to a couple. Some of these are religious sites, and no religion ever wants to define itself as a cult, although some of them (hell, I'd go so far as to say pretty much all of them, but I'm admittedly not nice when it comes to religion) are... so, they'll probably leave some things out to protect themselves. But in interest of fairness, I'll include 'em. I'm actually taking my own view mostly from The True Believer by Eric Hoffer, which is indispensable if you're really going to examine the nature of mass movements. That's to dealing with groupthink what Sun Tzu's The Art of War is to dealing with warfare.


http://cultresearch.org/help/characteristics-associated-with-cults

https://comingintheclouds.org/christian-resources/religions/10-characteristics-of-cults/

http://andynaselli.com/sociological-characteristics-of-cults


I'll use this one, as it seems manageable for discussion, even if the site seems a bit religion-friendly:

https://doctrinesoffaith.com/cults-characteristics-of-cults/

The group has an authoritarian leader who commands control, loyalty, and allegiance from group members.

The leader claims to have special knowledge or insight that others don’t have.

The cult maintains practices that are different from normal behavior.

The cult maintains that they are the only ones to have the truth, and that leaving will pose risks.

The cult separates itself socially from others, and is usually practicing elitism. They may also isolate followers from other people outside the cult.

Members of the cult feel or profess that they are the subject of persecution from people outside the cult.

The cult has its own terminology and phrases.

The cult leaders maintain control over members by using certain forms of mental manipulation. They remind the group that if they stick to the group’s beliefs or teachings, they will get special rewards (ie: spiritually).

The leader or leaders maintain control over the lives of members. (This may include counseling them on their sex lives, marital choices, time spent dedication to the group and even college or other advanced education which may be frowned upon).

Members are encouraged to contribute money or property to the group.
(This may be conveyed to the members in a manner in which they believe that the cult is suffering financially when they are not.)

Recruitment of new members may be done in a deceptive way. (This may be accomplished by members not explicitly sharing the true inner workings of the religious organization with prospective members, including the losses or damage that will result if they leave).


So, examining a few of these...

The group has an authoritarian leader who commands control, loyalty, and allegiance from group members.

This one's pretty obvious. Anybody who deviates gets outcast pretty quick. We watched, in just a couple of election cycles, Republicans turn John McCain from their nominee for president into a pariah so hated that Trump didn't even attend the funeral... which a lot of his followers celebrated. They turned on McCain like attack dogs for non-conformity. Now they loathe Romney, who was also their standard-bearer just a few years ago. When they usurp, they really usurp!


The cult maintains practices that are different from normal behavior.

"I ain't wearin' no mask!" during a pandemic comes to mind, but there's a lot of other things. Carrying guns while wearing Hawaiian shirts, I mean, that's sure a thing normal people do all the time, yeah?



The cult maintains that they are the only ones to have the truth, and that leaving will pose risks.

"I alone can fix it." "Fake news!" And "Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization" and "Antifa is after us!" etc. There's very much a "circle the wagons, we're under attack" thing going on there. And the whole "Q" thing, where everything you see going on is actually wrong and it's a plot to set the libs up, etc. I'd almost count QAnon as a sub-cult within the larger Trump cult... but they're so tied together now it's hardly worth differentiating. Only their news sources are to be trusted. FOX and OAN and Sinclair really aren't even "news" at this point, but they cut their viewers off from everything else, telling them it's all lies and can't be trusted. Build a bubble, keep the idiots in it like tossing a blanket over a parrot's cage so it'll stay asleep.


The cult separates itself socially from others, and is usually practicing elitism. They may also isolate followers from other people outside the cult.

Trump's always telling his followers, "We're the real elites!" And you can see the separating and isolating going on all the time on Twitter. They group up and shun anyone who's not in the group. You question Trump or differ in any way and you're a "RINO."


Members of the cult feel or profess that they are the subject of persecution from people outside the cult.

Again, this is really obvious. This has been a right-wing thing for years. "The main-stream media" is out to get them, "Hollywood" is out to get them, minorities are out to get them, somebody's ALWAYS out to get them. Feeling "picked on" is pretty much the core of being a Republican in the past couple decades. And their persecution complex has grown immensely. Trump's not doing anything bad, he's just a victim of the "deep state" and it's all a big set-up. Completely illogical, but they believe it to the bone.



The cult has its own terminology and phrases.


MAGA! WWG1WGA! The Storm! Follow the White Rabbit! Hell, just look up any conservative on Twitter, half the things they tweet are #hashtags. And then there are all the other 4chan-klan things, like "beta cucks," etc. Half the time these people are barely using English.

The cult leaders maintain control over members by using certain forms of mental manipulation. They remind the group that if they stick to the group’s beliefs or teachings, they will get special rewards (ie: spiritually).

QAnon especially uses "Trust the plan" as a catch-phrase. Trump repeats everything he says four or five times, like he's training a parrot to say it. They've been using this "special rewards" thing in their fundraising, which is REALLY bizarre. They're trying to guilt-trip their followers and make them think they have a personal relationship with Donald Trump. I mean, this shit is worse than Scientology: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-trump-campaign-s-fundraising-emails-have-gotten-very-in-your-face-and-awkwardly-personal-especially-with-eric-and-don-jr-s-guilt-trips/ar-BB178z69 (If you haven't seen those letters, they're especially crazy. "Our dad's disappointed in you, but I talked him into giving you one more chance!" I mean, weeeeeird.



The leader or leaders maintain control over the lives of members. (This may include counseling them on their sex lives, marital choices, time spent dedication to the group and even college or other advanced education which may be frowned upon).

Well, conservatives definitely are pushing for not going to college, 'cuz they see it as "liberal indoctrination" more than anything else, but this kind of tight control is mostly seen in smaller cults. This is a HUGE one.


Members are encouraged to contribute money or property to the group.
(This may be conveyed to the members in a manner in which they believe that the cult is suffering financially when they are not.)


See the previous-mentioned fundraising letters. The NRA is also very big on the "we're in financial trouble, you gotta save us!" thing, and the NRA is more the National Republican Association than it is about rifles at this point.


Recruitment of new members may be done in a deceptive way. (This may be accomplished by members not explicitly sharing the true inner workings of the religious organization with prospective members, including the losses or damage that will result if they leave).

There are so many lyin'-ass YouTube channels, propaganda networks, fake newspapers (The Epoch Times), and even fake universities ("Praeger U") out there recruiting. Hell, I could do an essay on Dinesh D'Souza alone here. The Republican party has become a party that runs exclusively on propaganda now. Hell, what else to they have? Look at the results their states get, and their presidents get, etc. All they have anymore is preaching. But, preaching works on their audience.

There's a lot more, but, enough for now...

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Well done, z. Wish you could submit this for wider publication somewhere.

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